Superman Returns No Supervillians in Superman Returns; A very wise decision.

[NotFadeAway]

They should have Superman take on Morgan Edge come sequel time, in my humble opinion. Good day.

" Shakes head in disbelief "

 

[Hunter Rider]

If he is the product of the crystal technology in space as the book suggests, he could be a god. Knowledge and power amassed to unimaginable levels. It will be quite interesting to see.

It does sound interesting,it could also lead into and interesting three way power struggle with Lex

 

[Kane]

Ya. I just hope it goes a different/original route from JLU and the comics. I like the fact that this possibly gives Brainiac a cool new origin too and makes Lex somewhat at fault for it's creation.

 

[Eros]

we don't need a "Hal 2000" rip in the next movie. We need Luthors return, and maybe bring back a manstream villain like Zod again.

 

[Hunter Rider]

we don't need a "Hal 2000" rip in the next movie. We need Luthors return, and maybe bring back a manstream villain like Zod again.

That would just be more retreading of old ground,i'd like to see Singer try something fresh

 

[Eros]

Fine, have supes take on serous world issues. Something that he is suppose to do. Bryan singer likes to do movies that have some kind of message.Like the x men movies in the past always focused on the story before the action. I assume the sequels will follow the same route.

 

[Spare-Flair]

I was watching Batman Begins again, and I realized how well it works when the villians are real and human. Even Ras, a very magical/mystical based character in the comics, was portrayed in a very real, human manner.

Superman may be an alien, but in this film...hes very human (possibly more real than any previous Superman portrayal)....meaning a non-geek audience of all ages would be able to enjoy the film without being alienated (no pun intended).

I think their approach was right...build up an audience first with a very human movie (bringing Supes back to the bigscreen for the first time in 30 years)....and then break into more sci-fi based comicbook stuff for the future films (supervillians like Brainiac, Metallo etc....)

If we can objectify this decision outside the realm of being hardcore comicbook fans, it does actually seem like a very reasonable and logical apporach for the mainstream audience, who likely arent major sci-fi fans. Everyone (comicbook fans or not) know that Superman's arch nemesis has always been Lex Luthor, and that familiarity will be a good draw for them to see this flick. The great thing is both writers confirmed (via Moviehole.com) that supervillians will appear in the sequels and alot of elements relating to the sequels will be set up in Superman Returns.

So I'm finally convinced this was a wise decision, what do you guys think?

I just hope we don't get Zod again...technically in Superman 2, Zod and the others were led away by police and incarcerated. It was even shown on the ABC television broadcast of Superman 2.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'd prefer Superman to confront Lex and Brainiac than negotiate world peace,the battles would replace this movies earthquakes and plane rescues in the action department

 

[Spare-Flair]

Fine, have supes take on serous world issues. Something that he is suppose to do. Bryan singer likes to do movies that have some kind of message.Like the x men movies in the past always focused on the story before the action. I assume the sequels will follow the same route.

Serious world issues isn't going to work man...Superheroes tackling real world social and political issues is just a pure minefield that nobody is going to get out alive from. Look at all those Superhero comics with 9/11 covers back then. It made Superheroes look irrelevant for all their years and powers, helpless to have changed anything except to stand in front of waving flags and smoke. Would you have Superman stopping world war? Tackling poverty? Famine? Look at what happened when Superman tried to fulfill the social agenda of Christopher Reeve in stopping nuclear proliferation - we got Superman IV.

The problem is Superman can't be too greedy, he can't try to fix everything at once. The only way he could do it well and artistically would be an adaptation of Alex Ross' 60th Anniversary issue "Peace on Earth" which shows Superman finally having enough of poverty and hunger and trying to feed the world and generally running into so many problems, he loses heart and realizes he cannot do everything at once, but must encourage human beings to help themselves and change through a long and painful process.

But that book was very artistic and sentimental, it would not work on the big screen. X-Men works in tackling the anti-mutant agenda as sort of an allegory to racism. I don't see the same happening in Superman.

 

[Eros]

i rather him tackle world issues, then some super-smart space alien scientist in black underwear aka Brainaic with no motive for hateing superman.

 

[Spare-Flair]

i rather him tackle world issues, then some super-smart space alien scientist in black underwear aka Brainaic with no motive for hateing superman.

We are talking about a main character who is a super-strong alien orphan who wears red underwear and a cape. You don't want him fighting other people in underwear? Come on, this is not a realistic "real world issues" character to begin with.

*erase stupid rambling about Eradiator*

 

[Hunter Rider]

i rather him tackle world issues, then some super-smart space alien scientist in black underwear aka Brainaic with no motive for hateing superman.

You think Brainiacs black underwear is not as good as Supes red set ?
And if Singer and his crew are such geniuses they can easily right a good story and motivation for Brainiac
What exactly do you want him to tackle in these "world issues" floods ? volcano eruptions ? terrorist hijackings and bomb threats ?

 

[Eros]

Brainiac a kryptonian computer....what the hell are you talking about Flair? Braniac from the comics has nothing to do with Krypton. you ever wonder why the first 2 superman movies were beter then the last 2?

 

[Hunter Rider]

Brainiac a kryptonian computer....what the hell are you talking about Flair? Braniac from the comics has nothing to do with Krypton. you ever wonder why the first 2 superman movies were beter then the last 2?

Because they had better directors

 

[Spare-Flair]

Brainiac a kryptonian computer....what the hell are you talking about Flair? Braniac from the comics has nothing to do with Krypton. you ever wonder why the first 2 superman movies were beter then the last 2?

Sorry, I had a major brain fart and for some reason started rambling about the Eradicator instead of Brainiac.

 

[Spare-Flair]

Because they had better directors

Because they had proper budgets? Superman III should have been a great movie but some bigwig producer decideded to make it more comic and family friendly as some sort of pastiche buddy comedy with Richard Pryor.

Superman IV could have been something if Cannon films didn't steal half the budget for their own projects, dooming Superman to B-grade movie shortcuts and effects.

 

[Eros]

now i dun mind Braniac appearing, but he could be Luthors side-kick or something. I want to see what Luthor does for an encore in the sequels. I mean the guys the second greatest arch villain in comic-book history. Im sure Lex will always have a new plan.

 

[Hunter Rider]

now i dun mind Braniac appearing, but he could be Luthors side-kick or something. I want to see what Luthor does for an encore in the sequels. I mean the guys the second greatest arch villain in comic-book history. Im sure Lex will always have a new plan.

They could use the manipulation theme,with both trying to outwit the other,if they used Brainiacs TAS origin he would have records of Krypton,something Lex would value highly

 

[Spare-Flair]

now i dun mind Braniac appearing, but he could be Luthors side-kick or something. I want to see what Luthor does for an encore in the sequels. I mean the guys the second greatest arch villain in comic-book history. Im sure Lex will always have a new plan.

What's with Luthor and sidekicks though? Brainiac's intelligence rivals Luthor. They should be partners using each other and constantly stabbing each other in the back.

 

[BrollySupersj]

I say Mettalo for next villain, and...if they do. To make the fight more epic and intense...go with the Video Game design for him.

 

[dark_b]

I say Mettalo for next villain, and...if they do. To make the fight more epic and intense...go with the Video Game design for him.

you mena the big mettalo? i think i speak for every man on the world that isnt a hard core fan when i say: are you insane?
this movie would bomb before the premiere.

 

[BrollySupersj]

you mena the big mettalo? i think i speak for every man on the world that isnt a hard core fan when i say: are you insane?
this movie would bomb before the premiere.

Why? whats wrong with another BIG problem for superman?

 

[Spare-Flair]

Why? whats wrong with another BIG problem for superman?

Easy to make the CG really unbelievable (I mean in the implausible bad sense). I mean if they can't even make Superman landing look realistic, a giant monster would just be Superman vs. Godzilla.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Again....this upcoming film needs to be the end of Lex Luthor!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kane]

No way. Spacey needs to be in every Superman film till the day he dies. Hes genious.

I just watched Se7en again, hoooly.

He can carry this movie as the villian all on his own. Its so freakin apparent now.