Superman Returns No Supervillians in Superman Returns; A very wise decision.

[Mentok]

I love Zod to death and think he should appear in this series (I doubt he will though )

I love his fruity get up from SM1...

But would love to see some Kryptonian battle gear this time...

 

[Kane]

I'll take a sci-fi/comic approach over a soap opera approach any day.

Thats fine. I wouldnt. I didnt consider Unbreakable (in relation to the whole Superman/Luthor conflict) much of a soap opera either.

With this project, I think there was alot of uncertainty about how successful it could be. I dont think they wanted to take the risk and alienate it, especially when Batman Begins did poorly in its first week too and picked up slowly from there eventually doing decent.

This was probably the safest, more logical route...and it leaves alot open for the sequels at the same time.

 

[Mentok]

Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Spider-Man, Jurrassic Park, The Matrix. Five of the highest grossing movies of all time. None of which are grounded in reality. I'll take a sci-fi/comic approach over a soap opera approach any day.

Matt, all those film are grounded in reality the same as SR is (LotR is less though).

 

[Zakk Sabbath]

I am definitely looking forward to the physical confrontation between Lex & Supes too.

Anyone here watch pro wrestling? If you know who Mick Foley (aka Mankind, Dude Love, Cactus Jack) is, he wrote in one of his books that he was told that " A heel (bad guy) must be convinced he is justified in his actions, no matter how wrong" I think this applies here, which is why I had such a big problem with Hackman referring to himself as the greatest criminal mind of our time. He's supposed to believe HE'S the hero.

 

[Matt]

Matt, all those film are grounded in reality the same as SR is (LotR is less though).

The only one that is really grounded in reality is Jurassic Park.

 

[Matt]

Thats fine. I wouldnt. I didnt consider Unbreakable much of a soap opera either.

Unbreakable is story driven, but not a soap opera.

 

[Metropolis_Man]

I always viewed Spider-Man as being grounded into reality.

 

[Kane]

Unbreakable is story driven, but not a soap opera.

Superman Returns may be story driven as well.

 

[Matt]

I always viewed Spider-Man as being grounded into reality.

Not really. It is set in the real world, the story isn't a realistic one.

 

[Matt]

Superman Returns may be story driven as well.

Superman Returns is a soap opera.

 

[Kane]

I always viewed Spider-Man as being grounded into reality.

It definately was, to no more an extent that SR is.....obviously some unrealistic elements (the mutant spider, Krypton etc) but they take a backseat to the real human elements of the film (especially for Spiderman 2).

 

[Zakk Sabbath]

People always say Spidey was more realistic than Superman or Batman cause it's set in NYC and not Metropolis or Gotham. That's bull****

 

[Kane]

Superman Returns is a soap opera.

In your uneducated personal opinion, well unless you have one of these:

 

[Mentok]

The only one that is really grounded in reality is Jurassic Park.

Jurassic Park - Based in reality.

Spider-Man - Based in realty (so says the director)

Matrix - Based in reality (The directors wanted to keep it realistic and less futuristic/scifi *something they failed with in the 2nd and 3rd films*)

 

[Showtime]

Superman Returns is a soap opera.

By this train of thought, so is Spiderman.

 

[Metropolis_Man]

Superman Returns is a soap opera.

So that means that one day, after the DVD is released, I'll be able to switch it over to the Soaps Network and Superman Returns will be on there?

 

[Morgoth]

I was watching Batman Begins again, and I realized how well it works when the villians are real and human. Even Ras, a very magical/mystical based character in the comics, was portrayed in a very real, human manner.

Superman may be an alien, but in this film...hes very human (possibly more real than any previous Superman portrayal)....meaning a non-geek audience of all ages would be able to enjoy the film without being alienated (no pun intended).

I think their approach was right...build up an audience first with a very human movie (bringing Supes back to the bigscreen for the first time in 30 years)....and then break into more sci-fi based comicbook stuff for the future films (supervillians like Brainiac, Metallo etc....)

If we can objectify this decision outside the realm of being hardcore comicbook fans, it does actually seem like a very reasonable and logical apporach for the mainstream audience, who likely arent major sci-fi fans. Everyone (comicbook fans or not) know that Superman's arch nemesis has always been Lex Luthor, and that familiarity will be a good draw for them to see this flick. The great thing is both writers confirmed (via Moviehole.com) that supervillians will appear in the sequels and alot of elements relating to the sequels will be set up in Superman Returns.

So I'm finally convinced this was a wise decision, what do you guys think?

Who cares about all that crap, that's why comic movies will be bland if they keep that realism crap up. Superman in this day and age should be able to fight a Super villian. This movie is the same old crap.

 

[SuperDaniel]

In your uneducated personal opinion, well unless you have one of these:

BWAHAAHAHAHAHHH

 

[Kane]

Who cares about all that crap, that's why comic movies will be bland if they keep that realism crap up. Superman in this day and age should be able to fight a Super villian. This movie is the same old crap.

And yet, Begins, founded on realism, was the greatest comicbook-based superhero movie made so far. With Begins and Spiderman 2 getting great reviews, it seems to be the trend in Hollywood now to go down that route....at least in the short term.

 

[Matt]

BWAHAAHAHAHAHHH

Just to point out your hypocrisy

C`mon. We aleready know a lot of the story. And everything i know so far makes me feel more better regarding this movie. I like everything so far so it is very possible i`ll like this movie very much. I know I`ll watch it. But one thing is to say the movie will suck without giving it a chance to watch it. O saying the kid wont work jeust because its a kid. Its totally different. The only thing that bugs me is If the kid does throw pianos at the villains, i know i wont like it. But if he catches a roof to save his mom, then i will. But i`d still prefer him to be powerless. I anyway, its almost sure thing that i`ll like it.

Its possible that the execution of the movie won`t be good as the premise. If thats the case, wich i highly doubt it, then i`ll admit that after i watch the movie.

 

[SuperDaniel]

^^ I just thought it was a good joke, thats all...it was very funny to actually see the crystal bal..Couldn`t help but laugh...

 

[Lobster Charlie]

A wise decision? Sure. Keep telling yourself that one.

SUPERman needs SUPERvillains, not Luthor for the umpteenth time. I like Lex Luthor, I think he's awesome, but its time to show the kinds of supernatural threats that only Superman can protect us from.

 

[Kane]

For the first film in 30 years? That probably isnt smart.

 

[Lobster Charlie]

Why not? We have the technology and talent to make some pretty bad-assed looking updated versions of Superman's villains. I mean, I'd rather see them try something new, bold, and daring instead of what seems to be a near-remake of the original!

 

[Matt]

^^ I just thought it was a good joke, thats all...it was very funny to actually see the crystal bal..Couldn`t help but laugh...

A common figure of speech is a funny joke. I wish I were like you....easily amused.