The Dark Knight Rises Nolan Mulling Batman 3

[The Demon's Head]

I thought Goyer said he had a theme and a villain for Batman 3. Now he doesn't want to write it?

 

[TheTrickster]

Surely if we all pitched in we could write our own one. We could film it on our mobiles and have our own viral marketing campaign by spamming every known email address with news and updates.

Lets free ourselves from the oppresive studio system. If we all put money in we could get Johnny Depp to star direct etc like a previous poster suggested.

 

[Banquet]

I thought Goyer said he had a theme and a villain for Batman 3. Now he doesn't want to write it?

When did he say that?

Here's where I heard he didn't want to write it:

Talking about how difficult it is to write a sequel that’s better than the first film, are you also going to – what do you think are the chances are for a sequel to this one?
David Goyer: It’s I mean, I think Warner Brothers would like to do it I don’t want to, and so I think as far as Chris goes, we haven’t had any long conversations about it yet, I mean it wasn’t until three or four months after Batman Begins that it opened that Chris and I sit down and talked about another one and we’ll have to see it. It definitely it’s a much scarier proposition. It was a scary proposition trying to do The Dark Knight and it’s sort of a geometrically proportional scary proposition for to try to do another one, but
Jonah Nolan: Absolutely.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/ne...-scribes-david-s-goyer-and-jonathan-nolan.php

 

[TheTrickster]

I think there is a link to an interview he did with MTV kicking about in another thread. In the MTV interview he sadi himself and Nolan had looked into some ideas for a topic for the third film.

I get the feeling that this discussion probably occured after writing the TDK script as a simple 'If we end this way then we could choose to continue it as follows' type thing.

 

[Twin723]

When did Nolan sign on for TDK after BB? Like how many months? Or was he under contract for 2?

 

[hatebox]

Goyer said ages before TDK was released that a potential story arc would be Batman and Dent bringing the Joker down in 2 and Joker scarring Dent in 3.

Obviously that didn't happen.

 

[zmystico]

"Batman 3" in my opinion cannot be directed by anyone but Chris Nolan, this is a trilogy to me, you don't have one guy do 2/3 of the work then handoff to someone new and expect them to carry on the same way. The first film dealt with his beginnings, TDK dealt with his perception in the public eye, the third one has to be his "redemption" to the public...Gotham needs to see that the "vigilante" is actually their "guardian." I'm all for giving Nolan 3-4 years to see how he wants to write the final chapter...he's earned that and much more, WB would be absolute fools to try to rush "Batman 3" just for the sake of getting it in theatres. TDK is still doing damn well in theatres and you know DVD sales are gonna be killer...you can afford to let this simmer on the stove for a while.

 

[Turtle-Man]

Absolutely right CFE.

The time between 'Batman Forever' and 'Batman and Robin' was only 2 years apart, as opposed to the traditional 3 years for a sequel and we see how that turned out.

Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 were released two years apart. The better film was the sequel. I know it isn't likely we'll get it in two years, and I could wait three years for the sequel. A year goes by so quickly. If they need the time to prepare, I'm all for it. It's their call, though. Just be patient. The longer you wait, the more likely you'll get a better product. That depends, of course, on if the extra time was actually spent improving the film. Anyway, three years is fine. No big deal. Just get back on board, Nolan.

 

[The Demon's Head]

When did he say that?

Here's where I heard he didn't want to write it:

The fact that Goyer has a theme he wants to keep in mind for a possible “Batman 3” means he also has a direction, a crisis, and, yes, a villain.

So what is it?

“I have one,” Goyer said laughing. “But I’m not going to tell you. Chris is very particular about that.

Here is the link: http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/07/21/exclusive-david-goyer-says-he-knows-the-theme-for-batman-3/

 

[Banquet]

I think there is a link to an interview he did with MTV kicking about in another thread. In the MTV interview he sadi himself and Nolan had looked into some ideas for a topic for the third film.

I get the feeling that this discussion probably occured after writing the TDK script as a simple 'If we end this way then we could choose to continue it as follows' type thing.

The discussion I linked to occured at the release of the film. I've heard on several occasions that they wrote TDK to be a complete without any thought of a third. In any case, there probably will be a third Batman, so I'm not surprised if they are coming up with ideas already (according to Jonathan Nolan, they started writing TDK four or so months after BB released). But I hope they don't rush things on account of WB.

Have the name of the thread or link to the MTV interview?

When did Nolan sign on for TDK after BB? Like how many months? Or was he under contract for 2?

Probably pretty soon, considering how fast he and Goyer started writing it.

 

[The Major]

When did he say that?

Here's where I heard he didn't want to write it:

All that could mean is that Goyer could be replaced completely by Jonah if they make Batman 3. He's already had less to do in the development in TDK then BB.

 

[Banquet]

Here is the link: http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/07/21/exclusive-david-goyer-says-he-knows-the-theme-for-batman-3/

Thanks! Glad he changed his mind, haha.

 

[The Major]

Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 were released two years apart. The better film was the sequel. I know it isn't likely we'll get it in two years, and I could wait three years for the sequel. A year goes by so quickly. If they need the time to prepare, I'm all for it. It's their call, though. Just be patient. The longer you wait, the more likely you'll get a better product. That depends, of course, on if the extra time was actually spent improving the film. Anyway, three years is fine. No big deal. Just get back on board, Nolan.

Agreed.

 

[GenesisBeyond]

Don't do it Chris Nolan. There is nothing left to do with the Batman Character that the Studio will allow. The only things the studio will allow, (Redemption, Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman) have already been tackled in previous incarnations of the Character.

The only avenues to take the Batman Character the studio would never allow (ending it all).

You even said it yourself, You layed it all out there in TDK. Anything now would be just recycling old ideas.

Don't come back unless you can be radical.

 

[Microchip]

They're probably just nervous about it. This isn't signing on to make Batman Begins 2. It's to make the movie following The Dark Knight, the second-highest grossing movie ever. Critically acclaimed beyond equal for a film of it's type. It's not a legacy you want to tarnish with a bad movie.

They've got to decide how they'll equal or top The Dark Knight, and once they do, we'll get our third movie.

 

[Two-Face]

I rather wait 2011 release because I don't want Nolan to rush things.

 

[The Major]

Don't do it Chris Nolan. There is nothing left to do with the Batman Character that the Studio will allow. The only things the studio will allow,

The studio has less credibility then Nolan dealing with Batman. They turned him into a joke the last time, remember?

Exactly why would they not allow Nolan to do anything? He's just made a very racy Batman which is much more successful then the previous films combined.

Why not continue?

(Redemption, Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman) have already been tackled in previous incarnations of the Character.

So what? Were you against Nolan using Two-face and Joker in TDK? Just because they are the same characters used, and in some case bungled, in previous films doesn't mean new stories can't be told with them. Especially by talented film makers like Nolan.

The Catwoman concept needs to be revived at some point. All it needs is a good execution.

The only avenues to take the Batman Character the studio would never allow (ending it all).

You have really limited creative vision.

Nolan could have Batman retire or die in 3, but it wouldn't stop future sequels. They'd just have to start a new continuity with a new director.

You even said it yourself, You layed it all out there in TDK.

You've got to be kidding. Nolan's just started playing in Batman's world. There is far, far more stuff he could do then end it all with a trilogy.

There's more then enough material in the franchise to make another trilogy if he wanted to.

Anything now would be just recycling old ideas.

1. Nothing is original anymore.

2. Hollywood loves its remakes.

3. Nolan's moving the franchise forward, not recycling.

Don't come back unless you can be radical.

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[Banquet]

They're probably just nervous about it. This isn't signing on to make Batman Begins 2. It's to make the movie following The Dark Knight, the second-highest grossing movie ever. Critically acclaimed beyond equal for a film of it's type. It's not a legacy you want to tarnish with a bad movie.

They've got to decide how they'll equal or top The Dark Knight, and once they do, we'll get our third movie.

I'm glad they are nervous, because it shows a full understanding of what they are doing. The hype doesn't seem to be going to their heads, just encouraging them. I hope it continues to be that way...

 

[Turtle-Man]

The studio has less credibility then Nolan dealing with Batman. They turned him into a joke the last time, remember?

Exactly why would they not allow Nolan to do anything? He's just made a very racy Batman which is much more successful then the previous films combined.

Why not continue?



So what? Were you against Nolan using Two-face and Joker in TDK? Just because they are the some characters doesn't mean stories cant be told with them. Especially by talented film makers like Nolan.

The Catwoman concept needs to be revived at some point. All it needs is a good execution.



You have really limited creative vision.



You've got to be kidding. Nolan's just started playing in Batman's world. there is far, far more stuff he could do then end it all with a trilogy.

There's more then enough material in the franchise to more another trilogy if he wanted to.



1. Nothing is original anymore.

2. Hollywood loves its remakes.

3. Nolan's moving the franchise forward, not recycling.



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[CFE]

Are you comparing 'Forever' and 'Batman and Robin' to Begins and TDK?

Clearly you didn't read my post whatsoever...

Again, if Warners rushed trying to get a 3rd film out of Nolan any sooner than 3 years...history would just repeat itself.

CFE

 

[Microchip]

Even without Nolan, the next Batman film would try to follow his dark and... ok, maybe not super-realistic, but believable and plausable universe. It'd turn out better than Forever and B&R combined, just because of that. However, I'm totally for a 3rd movie, but only if Nolan is there with it. If he's not... he'd have to have one heck of a replacement.

It also takes a really good director to get so many good performances out of so many actors. Nolan clearly has what it takes there. With the exception of the cops in BB1, and maybe Katie Holmes, he's gotten great work out of all the actors.

 

[Two-Face]

Even without Nolan, the next Batman film would try to follow his dark and... ok, maybe not super-realistic, but believable and plausable universe. It'd turn out better than Forever and B&R combined, just because of that. However, I'm totally for a 3rd movie, but only if Nolan is there with it. If he's not... he'd have to have one heck of a replacement.

It also takes a really good director to get so many good performances out of so many actors. Nolan clearly has what it takes there. With the exception of the cops in BB1, and maybe Katie Holmes, he's gotten great work out of all the actors.

I agree with you but this is his baby, he'll surely wanna do Batman 3. I can see David Fincher taking over from Nolan but still I want Nolan directed Batman 3.

 

[Dark Knight]

August 18, 2008 - The Dark Knight soared past the first Star Wars movie this weekend to become the second highest-grossing domestic release of all time just behind Titanic. With over $470 million now in their coffers, Warner Bros. is understandably eager to make sure that filmmaker Christopher Nolan, the director of TDK and Batman Begins, returns to helm the third installment in their revitalized Bat-franchise.

So far there had been little hard news about Batman 3 (but plenty of unfounded casting gossip about who might play the villains in the next sequel). Until now.

According to Variety, "There's a deal for the director to helm a third pic, but he has yet to decide on whether to tackle it yet." Warner Bros. studio boss Alan Horn told the trade, "We have no idea where Chris is going with this. ... We haven't had any conversations with him about it."

Although the paper doesn't say, it should probably be expected that Nolan's next directing effort will likely be a non-Batman project (assuming he even wants to do Batman 3), much like how he followed the success of Batman Begins with The Prestige.

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I think Nolan will probably do The Prisoner next and then decide to do the 3rd Bat film if they come up with another great story and have it be released in 2011.

 

[Chee]

Nolan is smart, I believe in him to make the right choice.

 

[Some Dude]

I'm incredibly confused over this whole thing.

When BB was first announced, I recall reading that it was part of a planned trilogy. I'm pretty sure that Nolan himself had said as much, and I remember reading that much of the main cast was contracted for 3 movies.

Now, however, he's claiming that he didn't originally intend to even make TDK and is uncertain as to whether or not he wants to make a third movie.

What's the deal? Was the trilogy thing just a mistaken assumption or what?