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Nostalgia vs Quality (The Lizard's 10K thread)

Is your continued enjoyment of the pop-culture from your youth mostly legit?

  • Yes, I can still objectively see the quality of the loves of my youth

  • No, I realize I was in a different mindset back then

  • I'm nine years old and this doesn't apply to me, you old fart


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The Lizard

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Yes, this is my real 10,000th post this time, after making the mistake of not realizing that I had lost 18 posts from my count during the forum upgrade. So woot, hooray for me, and all that tripe. If you'd like to review my premature celebration of this milestone, go here.

Since I was given a second chance of sorts, I thought I'd follow the example of other forums such as Rottentomatoes where milestone threads actually have independent subjects to them and some pretense of relevance. Since I'm looking back on almost 6 years and 10,000+ posts at SHH, nostalgia seems to be an approproate subject.

As a thirtysomething Gen-Xer, I'm seeing more and more blatant attempts to get my money coming in the form of apealing to my sense of nostalgia. During the 1980s-'90s, when all media seemed to be pushing Baby Boomer-oriented nostalgia in our faces, I grew quite annoyed with this and swore that I would not fall into the same trap when I grew older.

So now I hear music from my high school days on every other TV commercial, and see every cartoon and sitcom I grew up with being released in special DVD sets. What am I to do?

I've consciously decided to take a cold hard look at what my generation's pop-culture media actually had some quality and artistry to it, as opposed to what I merely have fond memories of because of youthful nostalgic memories.

First off... I will not be buying any DVD sets of the TV shows Wonder Woman, The Incredible Hulk, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, or the Godzilla Hanna-Barbera cartoon, because quite frankly....they sucked.

This isn't to say that my enjoyment of them wasn't legitimate, or that watching the odd episode here and there thanks to Netflix or YouTube isn't still fun for me. It's just that I don't see the need to own 100 episodes of He-Man battling Skeletor without a single sword fight or thrown punch. I was OK with that as a kid, but now I demand more from my SF/fantasy entertainment.

Second, I refuse to buy any product simply because the commercial features a song from The Cure or The Smiths that I loved 15 years ago and might still love now. I realize that most of my "alternative" music tastes from my college years can now be heard over the speakers at Whole Foods Grocery -- and I'm OK with that. I just refuse to march lock-step into mass nostalgia-driven trends like the Boomers have for the last 30 years of their lives. In fact, my first instinct when I see a blatantly Gen-X themed commercial is to snort with disgust and swear never to buy that product....

BUT am I being "generationally predictable" by doing that too?

Anyway, thanks to the internet, everyone can wallow in nostalgia these days, and order toys from the bygone days of 1998 on eBay, and torrent those long-lost episodes of Birds of Prey from their early 21st century youth.

Maybe the whole point of nostalgia is now lost thanks to this -- after all, can you really be nostalgic about something you've never had to give up or forget about in the first place?
 
I don't care about the motives of those who feed off of nostalgia. All I know is, for decades I would've killed to be able to watch all of the Schoolhouse Rock cartoons whenever I want, and now that I can, it's even cooler than I wouldlve dreamed.

And I would've easily paid a bootlegger tons of money for a crappy VHS tape of a few Land of the Lost episodes. Now I have every episode on DVD and it's great.

But yeah, I got the "10 best" episodes of He-Man and lord are they bad. Also, everyone comes all over Thundercats and while it had the coolest intro of any cartoon, the episodes themselves, I couldn't even watch 'em when I was a kid.:down

But I like having the option to buy whereas before you just had to get lucky enough to stumble upon some re-run.
 
The Lizard said:
BUT am I being "generationally predictable" by doing that too?

A tad, but you're a relatively small portion of the Gen X market (that stayed true to their "Jadedness" ) most others go like "cool morrissey is selling me a car!"
I fro the most part try to keep listening and lookig for newer stuff to avoid that "nostalgia" the other my Girlfriend told me that she was going to buy the The Thundercats DVD set, and I was like "why?" and the answer of course was nostalgia.

commercialism ruins my day sometime, I'm eagerly awaiting the day when I'm buying groceries and that Muzak version of Even Flow comes piping through (perhaps it circulates already, I just haven't heard it)
 
You know what? Live life how you want to. Enjoy what you want to. If it's nostalgiac, great. If it's not, great. But quit burning up your life span giving so much of a damn about what other people are doing or what they might think of you. Personally, I'm making up the rules as I go along, rather than trying to fit who I am into some bullsh1t preconceived notion of how I should be living my life. :up:

Thudercats HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

jag
 
jaguarr said:
You know what? Live life how you want to. Enjoy what you want to. If it's nostalgiac, great. If it's not, great. But quit burning up your life span giving so much of a damn about what other people are doing or what they might think of you. Personally, I'm making up the rules as I go along, rather than trying to fit who I am into some bullsh1t preconceived notion of how I should be living my life. :up:

Thudercats HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

jag

I agree, **** people!

Thundercat's are loose :word:
 
Just wait six days and get The Tick Vs. Season One on DVD. :)

I'm wholly certain that that show has withstood the test of time.
 
There was only one show that I absolutely loved as a kid and must have on dvd.
That show was Batman TAS. Everything else can go screw.
 
Hey Lizard, im cloing in on my 10k, too. :up:
And this thread subject has been much on my mind, lately.
I could write pages about this (and have) but in short, i voted that:

a)"yes", i can still see the qualities from 70s/80s popculture

b)sometimes i even see new things in that same same popculture that i missed back then.

c) I don't feel the need to own things from back then. Certain things, yes, but often, once i own them, they seem to lose a bit of that "spark".
For instance, my girlfriend bought me the "Electric Company" DVD for Valentines Day. It's been 6 months and i haven't watched it yet.
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
I don't care about the motives of those who feed off of nostalgia. All I know is, for decades I would've killed to be able to watch all of the Schoolhouse Rock cartoons whenever I want, and now that I can, it's even cooler than I wouldlve dreamed.

Ah, but one could easily argue that the clever creative lyrics and high quality tunes seen in Schoolhouse Rock mark it as a "quality" work with continued relevance outside of nostalgia.

And I would've easily paid a bootlegger tons of money for a crappy VHS tape of a few Land of the Lost episodes. Now I have every episode on DVD and it's great.

Funny you should mention Land of the Lost, since I've debated many a time on whether or not to own or merely rent this series. I really, really, REALLY loved dinosaurs as a kid and still do. Someone needs to make an updated movie where Marshall, Will, Holly (and Uncle Jack too, I suppose) get to go home. --- Or would that just be a nostalgia-driven project?!? :mad:
 
jaguarr said:
You know what? Live life how you want to. Enjoy what you want to. If it's nostalgiac, great. If it's not, great. But quit burning up your life span giving so much of a damn about what other people are doing or what they might think of you. Personally, I'm making up the rules as I go along, rather than trying to fit who I am into some bullsh1t preconceived notion of how I should be living my life. :up:

Thudercats HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

jag

Tool.





;)
 
I'd also like to add that I got Rambo, Super Mario, and Fraggle Rock on DVD. Where the hell is M.A.S.K.? :cmad:
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
no, f*** Uncle Jack.:down


That is EXACTLY what got him a restraining order from Will & Holly.

jag
 
Yes, I can still objectively see the quality of the loves of my youth.
 
jaguarr said:
That is EXACTLY what got him a restraining order from Will & Holly.

jag
What happens in the Land of the Lost stays in the Land of the Lost.
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
What happens in the Land of the Lost stays in the Land of the Lost.

Not with Chaka hanging around. That boy can't keep his mouth shut!

jag
 
jaguarr said:
Not with Chaka hanging around. That boy can't keep his mouth shut!
Literally

chaka-1.jpg


:(
 
jaguarr said:
Gray-haired emo. :p

jag

Hey, I was goth, not emo. :mad:

Of course, we didn't call it "goth" back then. I think I called it "dressing up in black and acting cool at scary dance clubs", or something like that.
 
maxwell's demon said:
i almost made the exact same post.

but...that picture made me too sad.
SO gross. On the commentary on one of the DVDs the dude who played Chaka talks about how the budget was so low that in season 2 his furry costume started smelling weird and if you look you can see holes in the ass where his underwear is showing through. Lol
 
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