Not an origin film and Bana & Purcell in talks?!?!?!?

[Sava]

^Have to disagree here, if people see another Hulk movie, even with a different cast, released 5 years after the first one, they are going to think its a sequel IMO.

i'm talking about them making another film with the same cast, if it is with a different cast, then yeah, i agree.

 

[InnerSanctum]

There's so many things wrong with this project, it's not even funny.

I think the director could be good if he was employed with a better writer and studio behind this project. Marvel Studios has no idea what they will be doing when it comes to production values for a film. If they were smart they would have merged forces with Sony Pictures, the only studio in town that's willing to pour money into their movies and limitless resources. Similar to DC/Warner.

I keep hearing Dominic Purcell for this picture and while I think he's a great TV Celebrity, Film is another story. I think this movie is shaping up to be a B-Movie and will glorify Ang Lee/Bana's "Hulk" even more. Zak Penn's writing skills are that of a 2 year old. I can't see this being any good.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

There's so many things wrong with this project, it's not even funny.

I think the director could be good if he was employed with a better writer and studio behind this project. Marvel Studios has no idea what they will be doing when it comes to production values for a film. If they were smart they would have merged forces with Sony Pictures, the only studio in town that's willing to pour money into their movies and limitless resources. Similar to DC/Warner.

I keep hearing Dominic Purcell for this picture and while I think he's a great TV Celebrity, Film is another story. I think this movie is shaping up to be a B-Movie and will glorify Ang Lee/Bana's "Hulk" even more. Zak Penn's writing skills are that of a 2 year old. I can't see this being any good.

Unfortunately, i have to agree with this.

 

[Advanced Dark]

First off you know nothing about this project Inner except for what the Director or Marvel has told you. You might keep hearing about Dominic Purcell but he was never up for the role and how is a film with over a 100 million dollar budget a B-Movie? I keep hearing Travolta's brother is gonna be Thor, Jason Bateman is gonna be Daredevil, and Marlon Wayons is gonna be Robin. You're making a whole crapload of assumptions based on false info. Also get off the Zak Penn bashing bandwagon cause nobody keeps hiring a guy who can't write. Whether you liked X3 or didn't he had certain guidelines to go by when he wrote it. Also saying he has the writing skills of a 2 year old doesn't say much about your debating skills. Yeah Warner Bros knows what they're doing...making Wonder Woman. LOL Marvel Studios also knows exactly what they're doing, they have the best interests for Marvel out there, the money to make the right Hulk film, and they're listening to all the complaints about the first film. So you couldn't tell me anything about this project yet except for the positive things we've heard from Louis that have addressed whatever complaints were out there. Please aside from a handful of Zak Penn haters...please link me to some hard facts from Marvel, Zak, or Louis that shows one thing wrong with this film. Show me one quote about the project itself that makes you nervous. You don't know the script, you don't know the cast, you don't know anything.

 

[Sava]

Zak Penn doesnt exactly bring a big reputation to this film, same with the director, the budget is a bit low IMO, if you have 2 monsters going at it and Hulk 1 cost 137 mill, it doesnt look all that great. LL said that he wanted to continue what Ang did and build on that, Avi says the exact opposite, its going to be more fun and not so heavy. with the 120 mill, it looks like they are going to try some man in suit plus CGI, CGI Hulk looked ALOT better than the thing. So far all we've got is lower budget than the first, looks like a completely different cast, Man in suit or the Mummy returns type CGI and the producer and director not knowing just what kinda movie they are making.

A lighter, more fun sequel isnt a bad thing. But so far it jut isnt looking like they can pull this off. it looks like TIH will be more like F4 than T2. T2 style story and action is what they should be aiming for.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Where'd you get the 120 million from??? Also even if that is the figure...it's not low. It could be done just fine. There's not gonna be the endless flight sequences and they're gonna mix CGI w/animatronix and other tecniques to make it perfect. I've seen films that cost 70 million that look more impressive than 120 million dollars. It's all how you use the money. Also nobody ever said this is gonna be a man in suit film. LOL And what do you mean not knowing. They know exactly what type of film they're making. It's just that YOU don't.

 

[Sava]

Where'd you get the 120 million from??? Also even if that is the figure...it's not low. It could be done just fine. There's not gonna be the endless flight sequences and they're gonna mix CGI w/animatronix and other tecniques to make it perfect. I've seen films that cost 70 million that look more impressive than 120 million dollars. It's all how you use the money. Also nobody ever said this is gonna be a man in suit film. LOL And what do you mean not knowing. They know exactly what type of film they're making. It's just that YOU don't.

didnt LL say something about TIH being 120mill?.

Remember Avi always saying that TIH is going to be light?..remeber when LL came to these forums and told us how his first talk with Avi went, how he said he loved what ang did and how he wants to continue that way. You are right about us not knowing, but Marvel havent helped with all these mixed messages. If Avi and LL releasent a statement saying that TIH was going to be a certain way, i'm not saying tell us the story, just which one, Hulk-lite or more of the same.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Avi saying the film was gonna be "light" was referring to the tone of the film not the action. He meant the film wasn't going to be too heavy in the psychological department. It was gonna be more of a fun,action, hero film but at the same time have Banner on the run as a fugivite, and incorporate more of the Jeckel & Hyde story, Noir, horror, etc...

The script was just developing when LL first made comments on the direction of this film and I"m sure if it's not finished yet...it's almost done. I'm happy they listened to the fans here, and I'm happy they didn't do a rush job on the cast. Let's first see who is cast in the film and go from there. I know it sucks not knowing everything but at the same time who wants to know everything so soon.

 

[Sava]

All this arguing is pointless anyway, i dont think even Marvel know wht kinda film they are getting, Penn is still writing it. But you are right AD, we should be patient but we a fanboys, and being patient isnt something we do very well.

 

[Sava]

Avi saying the film was gonna be "light" was referring to the tone of the film not the action. He meant the film wasn't going to be too heavy in the psychological department. It was gonna be more of a fun,action, hero film but at the same time have Banner on the run as a fugivite, and incorporate more of the Jeckel & Hyde story, Noir, horror, etc...

The script was just developing when LL first made comments on the direction of this film and I"m sure if it's not finished yet...it's almost done. I'm happy they listened to the fans here, and I'm happy they didn't do a rush job on the cast. Let's first see who is cast in the film and go from there. I know it sucks not knowing everything but at the same time who wants to know everything so soon.

true. But weve had to deal with sequel talks for a long time, and when we finally get one, the mixed messages start. Its hell being a Hulk fan

 

[Advanced Dark]

Yeah there was talk for a long time but it really hasn't been that long. Besides Marvel just go the rights back and they went full steam ahead instantly. Universal was the ones dragging their feet...not Marvel.

 

[Sava]

Yeah there was talk for a long time but it really hasn't been that long. Besides Marvel just go the rights back and they went full steam ahead instantly. Universal was the ones dragging their feet...not Marvel.

4 years isnt a long time?... with films like F4 and Spidey releasing sequels, spinoffs being made from DD. trust me, its been a long time.

 

[Advanced Dark]

4 years isn't that bad but wasn't it only 3 years from the last film till this one was announced at Marvel studios??? Even if it's 4 considering the rights exchange it's not bad. It's actually better. IMO

 

[Sava]

4 years isn't that bad but wasn't it only 3 years from the last film till this one was announced at Marvel studios??? Even if it's 4 considering the rights exchange it's not bad. It's actually better. IMO

its not better, it sucks... the waiting is the worst part, not knowing if its going to suck or not

 

[Advanced Dark]

Waiting sucks but the end result should be better. I think this will be the film that can bridge the gap and make fans and the general public happy. It certainly can't please EVERYONE...but the first film did not exploit the characters potential enough at the box office which is key to an ongoing franchise.

 

[Sava]

Waiting sucks but the end result should be better. I think this will be the film that can bridge the gap and make fans and the general public happy. It certainly can't please EVERYONE...but the first film did not exploit the characters potential enough at the box office which is key to an ongoing franchise.

agreed.

 

[Demon Within]

As a guy not to invested in this forum ill add my 2c.

The first Hulk was a let down. What it did good was display the Hulks anger/rage to a point that it almost made you feel angry for no reason at all.

What it didnt do well. The hulk was too big. Way to big. Jennifer Connely. Nick nolte over did every scene he was in. The hulk dogs were not cool. Why was the Hulk restricted to fighting in the desert and a lake and not a city to show what a monster he could be? It tried to be a "thinking movie" but failed as what you were meant to think about was boring. Oh and his pants were not good as the Hulk.

TIH sounds like its going in the right direction. Man playing Hulk sounds better then 23ft Hulk no one can identify with. The Devil in legends still rocks to this day so I have faith it can be done. Less supporting characters. This is the hulk not david banner/ross family/any other person other then the one I came to see. If its a 90 minute movie I want Hulk in it 80 minutes.

 

[Sava]

As a guy not to invested in this forum ill add my 2c.

The first Hulk was a let down. What it did good was display the Hulks anger/rage to a point that it almost made you feel angry for no reason at all.

What it didnt do well. The hulk was too big. Way to big. Jennifer Connely. Nick nolte over did every scene he was in. The hulk dogs were not cool. Why was the Hulk restricted to fighting in the desert and a lake and not a city to show what a monster he could be? It tried to be a "thinking movie" but failed as what you were meant to think about was boring. Oh and his pants were not good as the Hulk.

TIH sounds like its going in the right direction. Man playing Hulk sounds better then 23ft Hulk no one can identify with. The Devil in legends still rocks to this day so I have faith it can be done. Less supporting characters. This is the hulk not david banner/ross family/any other person other then the one I came to see. If its a 90 minute movie I want Hulk in it 80 minutes.

lol...i dont agree.

 

[Demon Within]

lol...i dont agree.

Hulk being Banner as well. I figured that would go without saying..guess not.

 

[InnerSanctum]

First off you know nothing about this project Inner except for what the Director or Marvel has told you.

Forgive me for not wanting to make the same mistake twice.

Fool me once "Shame on you" Fool me twice "Shame on Me!"

That would be the outcome if I ever supported anything Penn is involved with.

You might keep hearing about Dominic Purcell but he was never up for the role and how is a film with over a 100 million dollar budget a B-Movie?

I just read that in an earlier thread. Thank god that Purcell's not involved.

There are many films that are labeled "B" regardless of budget. Waterworld, Van Helsing, etc.... All extremely expensive projects that have been labeled by critics and fans as "B" movies.

Jason Bateman is gonna be Daredevil

Ironic, Jason Bateman has been casted in a "superhero" film.

You're making a whole crapload of assumptions based on false info.

No, it's based on experience from following these productions. It doesn't take a brain surgeon these days to know whether a project is going to be good or bad. Hell, even the trailers give you the whole movie without ever having to step foot in the theater.

Also get off the Zak Penn bashing bandwagon cause nobody keeps hiring a guy who can't write. Whether you liked X3 or didn't he had certain guidelines to go by when he wrote it.

Bashing Penn is the only way to give him the "comeuppance" that he deserves for manipulating Fans into watching the atrocity that is called "The Last Stand". I agree that he was only a studio puppet but still responsible for going beyond his job description by preying on the naive.

The only reason he "gets" jobs is because of who he knows and is friends with. He doesn't win his jobs on merits alone.

Also saying he has the writing skills of a 2 year old doesn't say much about your debating skills.

What debating, it's public knowledge that Penn's writing skills are extremely limited.

Yeah Warner Bros knows what they're doing...making Wonder Woman. LOL Marvel Studios also knows exactly what they're doing, they have the best interests for Marvel out there, the money to make the right Hulk film, and they're listening to all the complaints about the first film.

Marvel has no clue. They are still cutting their teeth on the Superherofilm game and to fully produce a film is going to be an extremely difficult task they will need to take "hits" on. It will be a while before they learn how to produce a good film so I'm not expecting much.

DC has done quite well in producing several good adaptions includeing Superman, Constantine and Batman. I've been pleased with how they are handling their projects thus far. Especially with Marvel looking to close some of their more popular franchises (ie. X-Men, Blade and Spidey)

So you couldn't tell me anything about this project yet except for the positive things we've heard from Louis that have addressed whatever complaints were out there. Please aside from a handful of Zak Penn haters...please link me to some hard facts from Marvel, Zak, or Louis that shows one thing wrong with this film. Show me one quote about the project itself that makes you nervous. You don't know the script, you don't know the cast, you don't know anything.

I think Sava's already answered this question but if you want to continue to live in a world with your rose colored glasses then by all means please do. Just expect discriminating audiences like myself and others on this board to counter it with reasonable expectations.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with demanding "better" for superhero films and with all the money they are pouring into these projects I certainly expect intelligent and thought provoking films that entertain.

 

[Sava]

Hulk being Banner as well. I figured that would go without saying..guess not.

well, seeing as How Hulk and Banner are two different people, i thought you only wanted Hulk on screen, my bad. But i still dont agree, i think 70% of the screen time should be with Banner/Hulk but the rest should go to the supporting cast, especially Betty and Rose... and also Bruce's mom.

 

[Demon Within]

An for the love of god leave out sappy romance scenes that make even married couples feel uncomfortable because of how overdone and lame they are. The standard "lets take a picture of our faces together" bit can be left out as well.

 

[Norm3]

I think the only reason their thinking Purcell if they are at all, is his similarity to Bana. I guess if he's the choice he will have the shaved head look like he has in Prison Break. I really hope these are fanboy rumors. I would prefer an unknown actor.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ They're not thinking of Purcell.

 

[Norm3]

Good!