Official Batman Titles thread 2.0 - - - Part 12

[Lord]

Yep he found out who Bruce was in the Black Glove though its hinted he knew before that

He'd better not hurt Alfred



I enjoyed it too

I thought the finale could have been better though

I allways liked Joker knowing who Batman is but not necessarily caring, he seems like that kind of guy, after so many years of fighting against each other it seems natural that he would have already figured out that Bruce Wayne is Batman.

I didn't really like the twist in the end, in fact i was enjoying issue 10 with the court killing themselves until it was revealed who was responsible, but maybe this will grow in me, maybe one writer will be able to make Bruce's brother more interesting.

 

[jonathancrane]

1. I enjoy Morrison's style and works.
2. While I enjoyed the Lincoln March angle, I agree with CConn and wish there had been more with the older members of the Court (and besides, I thought there were more members shown in the arena than the ones March poisoned.)
3. With that said, I have enjoyex Snyder's run, even though I have not read The Black Mirror yet.
4. It is good having the Joker back.I like what has been revealed. Also, why did tge Dollmaker cut his face off, again? I do not remember, and cannot check, as the comics are in storage.

 

[Mystirious]

Does anyone else think that

Spoiler

Joker holding his face on with a belt is kind of hillarious

That can't be practical

Maybe after years of high heels and corsets on female characters, dc want to give male characters hideously impractical and illogical new looks as well

Equality!

I allways liked Joker knowing who Batman is but not necessarily caring, he seems like that kind of guy, after so many years of fighting against each other it seems natural that he would have already figured out that Bruce Wayne is Batman.

Yep that's what I think too

 

[Donnie Darko]

Yeah, I am fine with Joker knowing who Batman is because like you have all said, he's the kind of guy who just doesn't care enough for it to matter. If anything, unless it benefits him in some way while trying to terrorize Batman, I can't see him caring much at all about Bruce Wayne. It's the Batman he likes to play with.

 

[WompuM]

I don't know. If Joker knew who Bruce was, he would walk into the lobby of a Wayne Enterprise building and kill everyone. This would be a weekly occurrence.

 

[Watchman]

Yep he found out who Bruce was in the Black Glove though its hinted he knew before that

And the best part about that was that he didn't give a ****.

 

[Lord]

I don't know. If Joker knew who Bruce was, he would walk into the lobby of a Wayne Enterprise building and kill everyone. This would be a weekly occurrence.

Not really, he has too much fun with Batman to go after Bruce Wayne, i imagine him possibly facing Bruce and attacking him and his personal life in their possible final encounter ever

 

[Scarecrow_King]

But what's a better way to **** with Batman than to start messing with his personal life? I think Womp's right.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Paint a fake door on the wall of Wayne Enterprises marked "Joker Entrance"

 

[Mystirious]

I dont think he thinks of Bruce Wayne having a 'personal life' though or even thinks of Bruce as being a person

In his head Batman is the real person, Bruce Wayne is just a mask Batman wears. I don't think anything to do with Bruce matters to him

It's why he's only going after the Batman's allies in this new story i think instead of going after Bruce's employees or friends like Lucius Fox. That's Batman's personal life as far as the Joker is concerned, anything to do with Bruce Wayne is just part of the disguise

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Even if Joker considers it part of Batman's disguise, he would still recognize him as Batman. Blowing up Wayne orphanages, food banks, and any other philanthropic Wayne branches to get under Bat's skin just makes sense for the Joker.

 

[Donnie Darko]

This whole discussion makes me think of "Hush," when The Riddler threatens to tell everyone Batman's identity, and Batman shuts him up by saying something like "What fun is knowing the answer to the ultimate riddle if you tell everyone else?"

 

[Scarecrow_King]

well, Hush was stupid.

 

[Spade]

Way I see it, there are competing schools of thought on the Joker. One has it that the Joker's fixation on Batman would crescendo if he knew his secret identity. The other claims the Joker wouldn't care who Bruce Wayne is because it's Batman that's the immovable object to his unstoppable force. Are both valid? Sure. The movies gave us a Joker for each interpretation, not including all the other Bat-media. That's all it comes down to, interpretation. In some continuities, the Joker steals millions and dreams of a crime empire. In others, money's just a means for more chaos. Both motives have shown up in the comic canon at one point or another. His personality's pliable like that. It helps that his insanity makes him unpredictable and, thus, inconsistent.

I personally prefer the random Joker who cares little about who Batman is. He stays fresh and mythic the less I know what he'll do next.

 

[Hush]

well, Hush was stupid.

And why is that?

 

[Scarecrow_King]

And why is that?

Hush was obviously Tommy Elliot, and everybody knew it the whole time. But the real "surprise" was that the Riddler was really the mastermind the whole time? And he knew Bruce's secret identity because he was dipped in a Lazarus Pit? I'm still not exactly sure how that worked.

The entire story was convoluted, and was basically an excuse for Jim Lee to draw every Batman villain and a Superman fight, which was copied straight from TDKR.

The story had some nice elements to it, like the progression of Batman and Catwoman's relationship. But everything else was either a rehash of old Jason brooding or cheap twists.

 

[Maximus One]

Idc what people say, I love Hush. I've read it about a dozen times and there is no mistaking that Hush is most definitely the coolest and only noteworthy Batman villain introduced since Bane. I sure can't think of another one but I'm not as well versed in the comics as I wish I was

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Except Hush's entire reason for hating Batman is utterly ridiculous.

Batman's dad didn't let Hush murder his parents, so he wants to kill Batman. uh, what?

 

[Hush]

Hush was obviously Tommy Elliot, and everybody knew it the whole time. But the real "surprise" was that the Riddler was really the mastermind the whole time? And he knew Bruce's secret identity because he was dipped in a Lazarus Pit? I'm still not exactly sure how that worked.

The entire story was convoluted, and was basically an excuse for Jim Lee to draw every Batman villain and a Superman fight, which was copied straight from TDKR.

The story had some nice elements to it, like the progression of Batman and Catwoman's relationship. But everything else was either a rehash of old Jason brooding or cheap twists.

Sure it's no TLH but it's a damn good story. I mean Hush was the first legitimate villain to come along and enter the Rogues Gallery with such viger in a long while and you actually made the Riddler a threat for the first time in a while. Obviously I enjoyed the story and it's your right to not like it but I wouldn't just dismiss one of the better Batman stories out there.

 

[Spade]

So. The November solicit for Batgirl has the Joker on the cover...and boy, does he look silly.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I hope he takes more naked photos.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Sure it's no TLH but it's a damn good story. I mean Hush was the first legitimate villain to come along and enter the Rogues Gallery with such viger in a long while and you actually made the Riddler a threat for the first time in a while. Obviously I enjoyed the story and it's your right to not like it but I wouldn't just dismiss one of the better Batman stories out there.

I didn't really see Hush as a legitimate villain until Dini handled him. He turned out just to be a glorified lackey for the Riddler.

But really, can somebody explain exactly how the Riddler found out that Bruce was Batman? That's bugged me for a long time, and none of my friends have been able to give me an answer. I can't tell if I just missed something, or if it wasn't ever really explained.

 

[HighFivingMF]

So. The November solicit for Batgirl has the Joker on the cover...and boy, does he look silly.

So he looks like The Joker?

 

[hippie_hunter]

Way I see it, there are competing schools of thought on the Joker. One has it that the Joker's fixation on Batman would crescendo if he knew his secret identity. The other claims the Joker wouldn't care who Bruce Wayne is because it's Batman that's the immovable object to his unstoppable force. Are both valid? Sure. The movies gave us a Joker for each interpretation, not including all the other Bat-media. That's all it comes down to, interpretation. In some continuities, the Joker steals millions and dreams of a crime empire. In others, money's just a means for more chaos. Both motives have shown up in the comic canon at one point or another. His personality's pliable like that. It helps that his insanity makes him unpredictable and, thus, inconsistent.

I personally prefer the random Joker who cares little about who Batman is. He stays fresh and mythic the less I know what he'll do next.

Considering that the Joker knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman, I think it's pretty clear that the idea that the Joker would intensify his attacks if he knew Batman's secret identity is now a moot theory.

 

[Spade]

He definitely found out in R.I.P. I'm talking more about the Joker as a character across mediums.

So he looks like The Joker?

See for yourself.