First Avenger OFFICIAL: Chris Evans is Captain America

[Rock Sexton]

This is what I'm least concerned about. As long as he's well trained and cut and looks in top physical condition, I'm perfectly fine with him.

And as much as you want them to remain true to the comic depiction of Captain America, you need to realize that these aren't comics. In comics people are often drawn overly muscular or with a certain body type. Look at Magneto. For someone pushing 50-60 years or whatever, he was drawn freaking cut and looked like a body builder. Did you scream in outrage when Ian Mckellen portrayed him in the Movies?

I say one thing, then you extrapolate it to the extreme. I'm looking for the intermediary. You think he looks fine at 180lbs. I don't. It's a matter of personal opinion. So instead of the 240lbs sombody listed Cap at, I'd like to see Evans around 200-210.

I could put the Magneto thing past me because he was reliant on physical prowess. Captain America is a whole different story.

 

[Rock Sexton]

No, in comics how you draw someone is part of storytelling. If a guy his ripped, that's the strength and intimidation in the comics, you have to draw big differences between the average joe and the super joe to make it more apparent. In movies, that's not the case, you do it more through action and subtleties.

Says who?

 

[DorkyFresh]

Guess all of Marvel must've been a bunch of shallow motherlovers then for the way they draw the vast majority of their characters.

well..there's a difference between a comic and real life. there ARE people in real life that look exactly like comic characters, but rarely can they act well. Chris Evans isn't the most charismatic or talented actor out there, but he has a great physique for Caps even IF he doesn't put on more weight (which he inevitably will). he has one of THE best bodies for a male superhero in a live action film. it's just ridiculous seeing so many people fuss over his physique when he's already in great shape AND we know he's gonna be putting on more muscle on TOP of that.

essentially, it's a non-issue since most of us know that they'll have Cap's physique covered well.

Now that I've got my avatar rant out of my system I can continue cap discussion.

i disagree with parts of your post, but i also agree with a lot...especially moving onto the Cap discussion

 

[Rock Sexton]

well..there's a difference between a comic and real life. there ARE people in real life that look exactly like comic characters, but rarely can they act well. Chris Evans isn't the most charismatic or talented actor out there, but he has a great physique for Caps even IF he doesn't put on more weight (which he inevitably will). it's just ridiculous seeing so many people fuss over his physique when he's already in great shape, that's all.

I'm getting tired of having to say this. He's in great shape for a normal person, yes you are correct. For Cap? He's not even close. He's not even halfway. For some of us who don't want to deviate too far from source material, we want him to try to at least improve and try to find a middle ground because we feel it's what helps make the character.

BTW, be careful of the "charisma" stuff .... lol ....you're about to unleash the Evans Fan Brigade.

 

[Nathan]

It's true though. He isn't exactly the guy to draw your attention when he enters a room. I worry when I think about seeing him and Downey in the same scene together.

 

[Rock Sexton]

It's true though. He isn't exactly the guy to draw your attention when he enters a room. I worry when I think about seeing him and Downey in the same scene together.

I do to. Have argued it a billion times on here. But I don't have the energy for it today.

 

[Project862006]

NO Actor has that quality .period unless he is gigantic

Evans does have the quality of having people listen to him when he speaks imo

his charisma and charm

 

[Rock Sexton]

NO Actor has that quality .period unless he is gigantic

Evans does have the quality of having people listen to him when he speaks imo

his charisma and charm

Meh. I personally hope they limit his lines to a conservative nature. I don't want to get long, drawn out speeches from the man. He'll fare much better that way.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Things Marvel Won't Release: Official Press Releases.

 

[DorkyFresh]

I'm getting tired of having to say this. He's in great shape for a normal person, yes you are correct. For Cap? He's not even close. He's not even halfway.

i hope you're exaggerating, but if you're not and you don't think that this physique...

...isn't even HALF of what you wanna see from a live action Cap Am, then you simply have unrealistic expectations. he gives Christian Bale from Batman Begins a run for his money.

 

[bluehulk]

I was in the military and trust me they didn't have much guys in there that looked like the muscled bound freaks that you see in the comics, with all the different types of training you do you end up losing more weight then you would gain muscle mass and the muscle you do gain is lean.
We had this big Italian kid who came when I did and the dude looked like a body builder but at the end of basic he had lost almost 20lbs but the was end he was more lean and had actually gotten stronger, I remember working out with this guy and he wasn't that strong in the beginning when he first got to basic he could only do 10 push ups because even though he had a lot of muscles he didn't have a lot of strength and the drill sergeants use to get on him by the time basic training was finished the dude had lost almost 20lbs. and his muscles were leaner but he was much stronger than when he came in, so I don't Chris has to get extremely buffed to play the part he just needs to tone up a little more.

 

[JAK®]

I'm not trying to put you down for liking Avatar, I just feel like it wasn't just simple, but was downright dumb. I'm using "dumb" not as a putdown on the movie, but as an abjective, just like I would use brown to describe tree bark. It was a dumb movie.

Tree bark, however, IS brown, no matter what you say. Avatar being 'dumb' is just your opinion, so that's not a valid comparison.

I think most Avatar hatred is simple hype backlash, with a dash of elitism (it's very easy to look smart when you say you don't watch movies for the effects). All I'm going to say to the idea that effects don't make a movie better; Star Wars.

 

[blinkuldhc]

Blonsky held his own vs. The Hulk when he had just a dose of SSS.

That's the way I see Cap fighting. Being resourceful, acrobatic, tactical, and agile.

For cryin' out loud, the guy fights by slinging his shield -- this guy may be an expert in hand-to-hand combat, but that doesn't mean he'll choose a fist fight over a tactic that'll keep him alive.

 

[bluehulk]

Even in the early comics Cap was not some overly muscled freak they started drawing him like that later on.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Fantastic Four came out in 2005. I bet he's gotten bigger than that in 6 years.

 

[blinkuldhc]

Come on... are we really upset that a real-life human cannot look like he was injected with actual Super Soldier Serum?

I'm sure if they asked him to, Chris could easily gain 10-15 lbs of muscle. He just hasn't been asked to do that for any of his movie roles.

 

[blinkuldhc]

Also, the physique should be the least of our worries...

Here are some things I worry more about than Chris Evans' physique:

* How they're going to realistically portray Cap's shield as a weapon, if at all
* How Cap's combat skills are going to be relevant or useful among Iron Man's tech powers, Thor's god powers, and the Hulk's limitless strength
* How Cap is going to travel from place to place if Iron Man is flying at supersonic speeds, Thor is flying, and Hulk is jumping miles at a time
* If Cap doesn't rely on his shield, then will he wield a gun? Not exactly PG13 Marvel/Disney material
* Similar to above -- how is Cap going to fight hand-to-hand against, say, Dr. Doom or the Mandarin or anyone else. Hell, if it were a fight between Iron Man and Captain America, Iron Man would destroy him on film.

And etc. It's kind of useless arguing over 15 lbs of muscle that, in all likelihood, Chris Evans will be asked to do and will do.

 

[Rich Santoro]

the dialogue especially of Avatar completely took me out of it. With a simple story, you need good dialogue and great acting. Great acting can make a simple story into a great movie. Awful acting can make a great story into an awful movie.

You take a "dumb" movie with a very simple, predictable story, with generic to downright awful acting, with the most cheesey dialogue I have ever seen (I didn't see Trans2 because i refuse to watch crap movies) but add a crapload of effects that, granted, are groundbreaking and you have a movie that the stupid masses who want to check their brains out before the see a movie will flock to see. It's the same reason people listen to Lil Wayne, Hannah Montana, and Jonas, it's the same reason reality shows are still popular. People are dumb and they just want to see beautiful people/things do simple things and will swallow what they're told.

I'm not trying to put you down for liking Avatar, I just feel like it wasn't just simple, but was downright dumb. I'm using "dumb" not as a putdown on the movie, but as an abjective, just like I would use brown to describe tree bark. It was a dumb movie. The dialogue sounded like it was written by an 11 year old. The story was over long and boring. The acting, as you'd expect from that cast and as par the course in sci fi movies it seems, was awful. If it wasn't for the amazing effects, Avatar would have won a razzie.

Now that I've got my avatar rant out of my system I can continue cap discussion.

This is some tired ass rhetoric from you my man... If liked X you are dumb, but I am not rying to put you down... Get over yourself. If all you watch are cult classics and academy award winning contenders, then what the hell are you doing even talking about Comic Book films for??? have you even seen any of Chris Evans films, because none of his films are that??? You didn't see Trans2 because you didn't want to see capola, but you didn't even see it to know if it was crapola???

Let me guess, you are in your second year of college and taking phil or coms or some *****, all caught up in your own circle jerk of thoughts.

Now, I don't mean to put you down... I am just saying, it is like calling a tree brown.

 

[TikkiEXX]

well im looking forward to the casting of The Invaders and Bucky. then we can see who,ll he,ll be playing off and whatnot. also whoever ends up playing Red Skull.

 

[Agent 194]

And where are all those manipulations everyone seems to do? I want to see him in the costume.

 

[bluehulk]

Forget about casting Evans as Cap who the gonna get to play Nazi soldier 1 and Nazi soldier 2, I mean if they don't get this right it could delay the whole production.

 

[Retroman]

So much for the unknown that Johnston wanted. Now we know who's calling most of the shots in terms of casting.

Evans has the physicality and has shown here and there that he has the acting chops to make a decent Captain America. But i do have reservations about his ability to carry a movie (potential franchise) by himself as a leader. Also i find it shortsighted with all the talent out there they couldn't find actor who hasn't already played a superhero in recent Marvel movie.

Kevin Feige said at Comic Con that the Invaders will be making an appearance in the film.Whereas Fox own Johnny Story/Human Torch, Marvel owns the rights to the original (android) Human Torch so there's a real possibility that Cap could interact with him.That would be a odd sight which i'm sure they'll poke fun at if it happens.

 

[Project862006]

is'nt there a torch just called Toro

 

[TikkiEXX]

is'nt there a torch just called Toro

pretty much. hes The Torchs sidekick.

 

[Chewy]

So much for the unknown that Johnston wanted. Now we know who's calling most of the shots in terms of casting.

I don't think anyone ever had any doubts that Marvel was going to call the shots in casting Cap, he's one of the linchpins (along with Stark and Fury) that will tie their entire filmverse together. Johnston will have much more say in the supporting roles.