First Avenger OFFICIAL: Chris Evans is Captain America

[SouloHero]

..Shheeet...that is HOT!!

 

[Marx]

I have no doubt that Chris Evans will be able to bulk up enough for the role. As LS said, he's always been a very athletic guy.

 

[SouloHero]

If he looks like THAT in the movie...I'm there for the first showing!!!

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I need to see a 616 Cap.

 

[Lobo]

^Most of us will be there for first showing anyway no matter what we say here

Dorky, that manip is

 

[flickchick85]

Well then stop talking about me personally or your boy rather! I don't single people out for their opinions and advise them on "how" to post or how often, even if I think they are ridiculous.

At any rate, I found a pic that better explains what I'd like to see out of his physique .... somebody manip'd it for Ackles, so just block his face out...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the base body for that manip Ben Affleck in Daredevil? Has the size been altered? Because if not, I'd say Chris could already look pretty close to that, given that suit, because he's in better shape than Affleck ever was.

BUT I do think Affleck naturally has broader shoulders, so I don't think Chris would look exactly like that.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I have no doubt that Chris Evans will be able to bulk up enough for the role. As LS said, he's always been a very athletic guy.

Things are a little different this time around for him ..... he's get less than what, 3 months .... plus he's doing the vegetarian thing now. We'll see. Muscle memory is the best part of working out, but this time around I'd like to see the dude hit the lats and his back. All arms, chest, and abs look alright with a shirt off, but I'd like to see the brotha fill out his suit big time.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the base body for that manip Ben Affleck in Daredevil? Has the size been altered? Because if not, I'd say Chris could already look pretty close to that, given that suit, because he's in better shape than Affleck ever was.

BUT I do think Affleck naturally has broader shoulders, so I don't think Chris would look exactly like that.

He does not look even remotely close to that right now. I already posted a picture of him from "The Losers" and he's quite smaller now. He's been off his workout and doing the vegetarian thing. He's not been playing any beefcake roles as of late. In the picture there's Jeffrey Dean Morgan and he's 6'2 190lbs. Chris is smaller than him for sure and he's supposed to be 6'1 180lbs.

Read my prior comment. He needs to hit more than chest, arms, and abs. Really fill out the suit.

 

[sdn]

naw guys - if he's thin now, he should thin out some more. then shoot the pre-serum scenes, then go on the crazy bulking plan!!!

 

[Rock Sexton]

naw guys - if he's thin now, he should thin out some more. then shoot the pre-serum scenes, then go on the crazy bulking plan!!!

Someone mentioned this before, but they should do the skinny scenes at the end so he can cut weight. It'll take longer to bulk up than to slim down.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Hang on Rock,

My argument isn't that he's not going to be recognized as Captain America. That is going to be instantaneous when he dawns the suit. For people like myself, it comes down to doing as accurate of a representation as you can without distorting the sense of realism they are trying to maintain.

It's still fantasy! You stretch that until you get to the brink of suspension of disbelief. Cap's agility and moves are NOT going to be something "people relate to" .... he's unlike any other human being on this planet. That's what the SSS is for. As for having 3 huge muscle characters, those are three very different levels. Hulk is practically a monster. I don't know who you're talking about, but it wouldn't take away from my "interest" .... in fact it would heighten the fantasy aspect of it for me as a viewer, put more even more in touch with that element of comic books.

I'm getting a little confused.... It's fantasy, so they have loads of leeway and can push it really far, but at the same time, if he isn't as muscly as he was in the comics, that will affect the 'realism'? I think the problem between you and me Rock, in these debates, is that you don't seem to be able to stretch your point of view to someone else, like someone who hasn't read the comics before, or people WITHOUT an intimate knowledge of body sculpting. I understand this is how you feel about the movie, but perhaps you might be in the minority of people who would care about this?

Also, as far as relating to Captain America, there needs to be human elements to his character so that an audience can relate to him.... it doesn't matter how fantastical a movie is, in Hulk we still cared about him in those scenes where he protects betty, or in full on fantasy like LOTR, you feel sorry for Gollum at points. And thats all about selling the character... Now the whole concept of a Super Soldier Serum is going to be a hard sell anyway, so the more toned down they can make the effects seem, the better sell it will be for the movie... I think the example set with Blonsky in TIH is perfect.... It was all about performance enhancing, rather than turning someone into a Bane like figure.

Also, you can't keep comparing the comics to the film in such a literal way. Comics have portrayed superheroes with the same over the top builds since FOREVER. The the level of reality the movies are trying to touch on are completely different to the comics.

 

[flickchick85]

He does not look even remotely close to that right now. I already posted a picture of him from "The Losers" and he's quite smaller now. He's been off his workout and doing the vegetarian thing. He's not been playing any beefcake roles as of late. In the picture there's Jeffrey Dean Morgan and he's 6'2 190lbs. Chris is smaller than him for sure and he's supposed to be 6'1 180lbs.

Read my prior comment. He needs to hit more than chest, arms, and abs. Really fill out the suit.

Oh I'm not denying that he needs to bulk up. I agree, he'll definitely need to. I'm just saying that suit played a major part in making Affleck look like that, because he wasn't really bulked up for DD at all. So I think if Chris hits the gym for a couple months, he could easily surpass that, especially if the suit is gonna "help" him as much as that DD suit did.

I mean, it's not like he's extremely skinny now, anyway:

 

[Rock Sexton]

Hang on Rock,

I'm getting a little confused.... It's fantasy, so they have loads of leeway and can push it really far, but at the same time, if he isn't as muscly as he was in the comics, that will affect the 'realism'? I think the problem between you and me Rock, in these debates, is that you don't seem to be able to stretch your point of view to someone else, like someone who hasn't read the comics before, or people WITHOUT an intimate knowledge of body sculpting. I understand this is how you feel about the movie, but perhaps you might be in the minority of people who would care about this?

We only speak for ourselves. Somebody else said something about him being too muscle-bound will affect the realism department. I kind of laughed at that notion because on it's face we're dealing with fantasy to begin with. But I do understand it, that's why I mentioned "suspension of disbelief".

Also, as far as relating to Captain America, there needs to be human elements to his character so that an audience can relate to him.... it doesn't matter how fantastical a movie is, in Hulk we still cared about him in those scenes where he protects betty, or in full on fantasy like LOTR, you feel sorry for Gollum at points. And thats all about selling the character... Now the whole concept of a Super Soldier Serum is going to be a hard sell anyway, so the more toned down they can make the effects seem, the better sell it will be for the movie... I think the example set with Blonsky in TIH is perfect.... It was all about performance enhancing, rather than turning someone into a Bane like figure.

I'm not denying that part of it. I was speaking strictly about his "appearance" ..... they will need the drama part of it to connect people to him. As far as the "sell", that's in your opinion. Blonsky was a half-arsed Cap. For me it's going to take more than an aerial and running a forty in 3.4 seconds.

Also, you can't keep comparing the comics to the film in such a literal way. Comics have portrayed superheroes with the same over the top builds since FOREVER. The the level of reality the movies are trying to touch on are completely different to the comics.

I understand the medium is different per say. But again, it's still fantasy whether it's a comic or on-screen. I will attest that it would need to be toned down, but not to the point where he should play Johnny Storm all over again. He's a "Super Soldier" .... he's supposed to be and do things that no normal man can do .... even men at certain "sizes" ..... I don't think it's too much to ask for him to look like I pointed out in one of my examples. People keep talking to me like I'm asking for John Cena.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Oh I'm not denying that he needs to bulk up. I'm just saying that suit played a major part in making Affleck look like that, because he wasn't really bulked up for DD at all. So I think if Chris hits the gym for a couple months, he could easily surpass that, especially if the suit is gonna "help" him as much as that DD suit did.

I mean, it's not as if he's particularly skinny now, anyway:

I'm not implying he's skinny. But he's around my size right now and I've never considered myself a "super soldier"

Well, either he bulks up big or they get the suit to finish the look off in the bulk department. Again, only speaking on behalf of myself here ..... but I really do want to see them push it a little bit to give it that extra bit of separation between he and a normal soldier.

 

[flickchick85]

I'm not implying he's skinny. But he's around my size right now and I've never considered myself a "super soldier"

Well, either he bulks up big or they get the suit to finish the look off in the bulk department. Again, only speaking on behalf of myself here ..... but I really do want to see them push it a little bit to give it that extra bit of separation between he and a normal soldier.

Well then we agree there - the more he can do in the these 3 months, the better.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Well then we agree there - the more he can do in the these 3 months, the better.

Cool.

BTW in that video, he was being kind of stand-off'ish hahah.....

 

[Rock Sexton]

..... Hahaha straight from IMDB's boards .....

OMG!!!!1!!! i waz liek ttly LOLZchopter when i herd dat kris Evens

 

[flickchick85]

Cool.

BTW in that video, he was being kind of stand-off'ish hahah.....

Haha, yeah that was still when the "talks" were happening, so I think he really didn't want to say anything to screw things up. Tbh, paparazzi videos in general are always just so damn awkward to me. I mean, people running up to you with lights and cameras while you're waiting for food, asking questions, pretending to "chit-chat"...the School of Life doesn't prepare you for that s***!

 

[flickchick85]

..... Hahaha straight from IMDB's boards .....

LOL, well that seals it - the populous has spoken. t:

 

[LadyVader]

Don't know if this has been discussed (check back only 2 pages) but I found this bit of the interview for Losers very interesting

Q: With a film like this which could lead to other sequels, is it for you as an actor are you a little nervous when you sign onto something that might be a multi-picture kind of thing?
Evans: Well, that's the problem. You think they'd only make it if it's good. The problem is they only make it if it makes money and that's good and making money are not synonymous. That's why you avoid those multi-picture contracts. Sometimes you have to do it, you known, movies like "Fantastic Four," those massive movies. They say, look if you don't want to sign a multi-picture contract we'll find somebody else. Movies like this you can negotiate. I think most actors would avoid trying to do multi-picture contracts just because you never want to have your arm twisted in any way. Even if it's a fantastic movie, even if you can't wait to make the sequel it's just always better in any respect, in any aspect of life to not be forced to have to do something.

Q: How does it work, exactly, when you sign on for a multi-picture deal?
Evans: Yeah, like it'll be a studio deal so, you know if you had a 3-picture deal for "Fantastic Four" for example, let's say they didn't want to make another "Fantastic Four," Fox could say well, we got you for another movie. We can put you in any movie we want to put you in. And it's more about locking you in at a price for each picture they say we'll pay you this for number 1, this for number 2, this for number 3. So "Fantastic Four," let's say they didn't want to make a sequel, but for some reason one of the actors became quite famous off of it, Fox now has the advantage to take that actor and put them in another movie at a set price. That actor can't say well now that I'm enormously famous I want $10 million. You could say well, we got you in a 3-picture deal and we got you locked in at this much cheaper price and you've got to do it. So it doesn't always have to be. But I don't have a 3-picture deal so it doesn't even matter. If I did, though and "Losers" went away, they could put me in another movie at a set price.

Q: Is that risky for you as an actor?
Evans: To get locked into a 3-picture deal? Well, you know like I said you lose control and the problem is let's say you have a terrible experience on a film. Let's say you don't want to revisit the character. Let's say you don't like the new director they hired. Let's say - there's a million elements that could come into play where you're just out of the driver's seat. It's not a bad thing. You're working. The fact is, especially nowadays as an actor, you're lucky to even be working. I know so many amazing actors who aren't working because there's not a lot of work. So, I guess it's not the worst problem to have to be forced to go to work, but if you want to try and maintain creative integrity it's just you lose that control.

Q: Would you object to going back to doing "Fantastic Four" or do you feel you've permanently moved on?
Evans: I guess it would depend. I mean I'm never against revisiting, well I guess I should say not yet, I'm never against revisiting genres or character types. If I played a doctor in one movie, I wouldn't be against playing a doctor again if the director was the right director. I think at the end of the day you've got to work with the directors. I do what I do because I like making good movies. It's fun to act but if you just loved acting alone you could sit in your room and act. You could act in a vacuum. You want to make good products. You want to make good films. I love movies and good movies come from good directors and like I said since there isn't this massive surplus of films out there, if a good director offers you a chance to make a good movie, you take it even if you say well I just played a character like that. Who cares? You're a great director. "Scott Pilgrim," I played characters similar to that guy but then there was no *****ing way I was going to say no to this guy. I'm doing your movie. So if "Fantastic Four" got rebooted and Christopher Nolan was going to direct it and said, "Do you want to play Johnny Storm again?," I'd be in those blue *****ing tights.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

^ Translation: "I hated working with Tim Story, and I will never let him direct me again."

 

[Ipodman]

So he hopes to be in a Nolan movie... haha

 

[Ace of Knaves]

That manip is beyond sick Dorky. Evans has the look most definitely.

I'm totally happy with the choice of Evans. I think he is a good young actor, not just a wise ass. I can't believe I never thought of him as Cap until a few weeks ago when his name was mentioned in the running.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I really like Evans & he's my 1st choice out of the current crop, but I gotta be honest that I was really pulling for Hedlund most recently. He would have been the best choice IMHO. Too bad Marvels trying to go cheap as possible (might just bite 'em in the ass, though!)

Cheap? Wha...? Evans can command much more money than Hedlund.

 

[surfergirl]

^ Translation: "I hated working with Tim Story, and I will never let him direct me again."

^^ That pretty much sums it up.