Sequels Official Gambit Casting/Speculation Thread [merged-6]

[Matt.S99]

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Jared doesn't really strike me any resemblance to Gambit.

 

[Majik1387]

How is that when Halle Berry demands a better role for her Storm (who needed a better role) she's trowing a tantrum but when Tomas Jane refuses to another Punisher movie unless it's gritty and dark he's being devoted?

Because Halle was in an ensemble movie. Thomas was the main guy in the Punisher and is the one most criticized.

 

[R_LaReaux]

Because Halle was in an ensemble movie. Thomas was the main guy in the Punisher and is the one most criticized.

There's that, and I don't really think Halle Berry wanted more screen time for the sake of her character, but for her own name. After Catwoman and Gothika, she has to be pretty desperate to gain back some of the fan base she's lost. I'll admit that Storm was under-appreciated, but so was everyone else.

 

[emmymae]

At least Halle Berry is rallying for an X-4 movie.

LaReaux, are you Cajun? I'm not at all, but ever since discovering Gambit the week before my 12th birthday a long while back, I have been very interested in the Cajuns. I have done a lot of research and even toured Southwest Louisiana and New Orleans. I listen to Cajun music (and Zydeco), and already have a beautiful historical screenplay in my head that I will one day soon write down. I'm also equally a Rogue fan and a mad fan of Gambit and Rogue's romance.

I really wanted Gambit to be in the movies, but seeing as how they watered down Rogue and messed up her back story, I was afraid they might do the same to Gambit. The movies had barely anything to do with the comic book.
There's a link to a video in this thread of a gorgeous young man named Loic Gisselaire, who was born to play Gambit. He's even a professional actor. The link's a page or two back. I'm not too keen on Josh Holloway for the role, but he'd maybe be a better choice than most.

Laissez les bon temps roulez!

 

[R_LaReaux]

One of the few and the proud. I was born in Bayou Chene, Louisiana. Chances are you won't find it on any map since it's a small community of around five hundred that technically stopped existing back in the twenties. In fact, it is my understanding they've only recently elected their first mayor and are in the process of organizing a police force. You might be more familiar with the Atchafalaya Basin that it's a part of, which makes up a good portion of what little cajun country is left.

As I've stated before, Gambit as a character is kind of a slap in the culture's face, but he's still a Cajun and that's not something you see often in the media. The similarities in names doesn't hurt either. We're a dying community, with very few full blooded examples left.

New Orleans is more of a Spanish/Creole city then Cajun. You have to go pretty far out of the way to find a true Cajun community, but they're out there. I'm glad you have an interest, and I truly wish I had some stories or other things of cultural significance to share. It's great that you do your homework, just make sure you research the right stuff.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Just throwing this name out there, for someone who might make an intersting, semi unknown (older, at 40ish) (French) actor, Olivier Martinez (though, he is only around 5'10)

 

[R_LaReaux]

Awesome actor, but too Spanish for Gambit in my humble opinion. Also, there's a difference between French, Cajun, and Creole accents. There's also a difference between Cajun French, Creole French, and standard French. Such is why Jean Claude Van Damme would fail as Gambit, prima donna and age aside.

Whoever they pick, I hope they get a good speech coach. It will be interesting to see which accent they go with.

 

[Majik1387]

^Too old.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Awesome actor, but too Spanish for Gambit in my humble opinion. Also, there's a difference between French, Cajun, and Creole accents. There's also a difference between Cajun French, Creole French, and standard French.
Whoever they pick, I hope they get a good speech coach. It will be interesting to see which accent they go with.

ya, maybe, but wouldn't you think it would be easier for someone with a creole accent to change or switch to a Cajun accent appose to someone with no accent in the first place
just say
I, am not in full support of him, i was just mentioning him

Too old.

ya, thats why i said for an older actor (i didn't say a wanted an older gambit) though, i will say he don't look 40's imo

 

[R_LaReaux]

Yes and no. The best comparison I can give you between standard French and Cajun French is English and ebonics. The majority of Cajun French is slang terminology with Spanish influence. The difference is so extreme that both systems of the same language is taught in many Louisiana High Schools and colleges.

That carries over into the accents. While some people can pick up and understand that horrible trash people call ebonics easily, other find it difficult to understand and "speak" convincingly.

All of this just to say it depends on the actor. I don't mind how they do the accent, I'm just curious which they pick. As long as the actor chosen justifies the character, minor discrpencies (age or height) doesn't bother me.

 

[emmymae]

One of the few and the proud. I was born in Bayou Chene, Louisiana. Chances are you won't find it on any map since it's a small community of around five hundred that technically stopped existing back in the twenties. In fact, it is my understanding they've only recently elected their first mayor and are in the process of organizing a police force. You might be more familiar with the Atchafalaya Basin that it's a part of, which makes up a good portion of what little cajun country is left.

As I've stated before, Gambit as a character is kind of a slap in the culture's face, but he's still a Cajun and that's not something you see often in the media. The similarities in names doesn't hurt either. We're a dying community, with very few full blooded examples left.

New Orleans is more of a Spanish/Creole city then Cajun. You have to go pretty far out of the way to find a true Cajun community, but they're out there. I'm glad you have an interest, and I truly wish I had some stories or other things of cultural significance to share. It's great that you do your homework, just make sure you research the right stuff.

Nice to meet you. I visited Lafayette, St. Martinville, and Breaux Bridge on one trip. Gambit doesn't seem to authentic to me. You don't see many movies about Cajuns, or Black Creoles for that matter, except for the indie Belizaire the Cajun. They need to have a good dialect coach because for someone who isn't Cajun, it's very easy to get it wrong.

I read an excellent book by the historian John Mac Faragher, which I would recommend to the rest of you as well, called A Great and Noble Scheme: The Tragic Expulsion of the Acadians from Their American Homeland. It's about the ancestors of the Cajuns. If you are interested in learning about Gambit's ethnic affiliation. And may I recommend as well the historical books of professor, and proud Cajun himself, Carl Brasseaux about the Cajuns in Louisiana. You can find these books on Amazon.com. Helpful if you guys would like some background info on the real Cajuns.:heart:

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Yes and no. The best comparison I can give you between standard French and Cajun French is English and ebonics. The majority of Cajun French is slang terminology with Spanish influence.

with Olivier being part spanish, you'd think he'd have abit of that

BTW: I personlly havn't seen to much of his work, so, i don't really know what he's accent is like. to be honest, I just saw a preview for that new blood and chocolate movie, so, I looked up who was in it, and found him

 

[R_LaReaux]

Except for the slang part, possibly. If the thick accent he used on S.W.A.T. is his normal speaking voice, he'd have a lot of problems.

Black Creoles only show up in early zombie movies, and it's very important that you don't confuse Cajuns and Creoles in front of either. Bar fights have been caused by less. The Great Upheaval is something that isn't taught in most public schools unfortunately.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Seeing as how the movies seem to completely forget the characters' accents (except for Nightcrawler), I hardly think he will have a strong accent. I see them putting him rather with a kinda "Anna Paquin's veeeeery subtle southern accent with some french words mixed" accent.

And, in fact, I'd rather have him speaking this way than an over-the-top, idiot thing like Nightcrawler. And please, some French words here and there, but forget the constant use of French words. It gets annoying like it got with Nightcralwer saying Ja instead of Yes (when Yes is one of the first words you learn in English. I can see him saying Staatsangehörigkeit in german, but Ya is just...wrong. It's making the character dumb.)

 

[Neptune]

Yeah i'd rather have him talk with a subtle accent too. That's probably what they'll do. Colossus didn't have an accent either. Pyro wasn't even australian.

 

[WeaponXProject]

I like Jared Leto but he's into his music now so....

 

[Matt.S99]

so he can still do acting

 

[R_LaReaux]

I liked Nightcrawler's accent. When the first pictures of him for X2 came out I was pretty let down, but Alan Cummings did the role well. The accent used is actually one from the Southeastern Bavarian region, which is how he should've spoken to begin with.

I think an accent adds to the character and makes them more dynamic. Anna was a mistake for Rogue, and Cudmore really should've had some form of a Russian accent. Americanizing characters is little more then rape to the original intent that the character is supposed to represent.

 

[emmymae]

Black Creoles only show up in early zombie movies, and it's very important that you don't confuse Cajuns and Creoles in front of either. Bar fights have been caused by less. The Great Upheaval is something that isn't taught in most public schools unfortunately.

I would never confuse one group with the other. I meant that Black Creoles don't end up in many movies either. The only major movie I can think of predominately portraying them is Eve's Bayou. What is the Great Upheaval?

 

[R_LaReaux]

The Great Upheaval was when the French citizens of Acadia refused to swear allegiance to the British crown, hence their forced move from Canada and to their eventual settlement in Louisiana.

 

[emmymae]

Oh, La Grande Derangement. I've gotcha now.

 

[emmymae]

I want the characters to have authentic accents. I really want Gambit to sound Cajun. I hated it that Rogue didn't really sound Southern. It's just disrespectful to water down someone's national, ethnic, or regional identity to make them sound mainstream.:heart:

 

[Neptune]

Meh i wouldn't mind if he didn't have a thick accent. As long as he throws a couple of french words in there. His personality is most important.

 

[emmymae]

Yeah, but he'd better sound Cajun. And I want more than just some French words thrown in, I want actual phrases. Gambit says sentences like "Il n'est rien." What's wrong with him also sounding like he should?:heart: