Sequels Official Gambit Casting/Speculation Thread [merged-6]

[Matt.S99]

ew no those are probably the 2 worst suggestions ive seen
yes lets cast someone who is almost 50 for gambit

 

[@JeanGrey]

yep. this one too
http://chtarber2toi.skyblog.com/pics/622112201_small.jpg

Total Gambit look

So far, in terms of acting and proper age, i wanna see Santoro (or the Greek Apostolis Totsikas...). I read an interview of Santoro in CBR about his role as Xerxes in the movie "300" and i was impressed by what he tells about the character he was offered to portray

 

[Sturmwolf]

hes bound to be a movie so..i guess it sux to be you lol

I guess i can imagine what you want to tell me, but I'm not quit sure...
1.I haven't read any reliable rumors about Gambit being in a sequel.
(Even if there will be another sequel at all.)
2.No one can make me go into a movie I don't want to see.
Gambit in -> me out -> no sucking.

 

[LadyVader]

You're letting ONE character affect you in such a way? And you call us fanatics.

 

[Sturmwolf]

You're letting ONE character affect you in such a way? And you call us fanatics.

I never said something like that.
So please don't quote me wrong.
I just say as much as you want him in, I want him out.
Obviously he is some 2K-Zeitgeist-Thingy, that I don't get/like.
That's it.
I'm an anachronism.

 

[emmymae]

Dude, we get the point already. You hate Gambit with a passion; I've seen your responses about it in the X-Men Discussion thread and the Official Gambit Discussion thread. But this is the Gambit Casting thread and most people posting here really do want Gambit in the movie. You ought to post about characters you like. I hate Mystique, but I still saw all three X-Men films despite that, and despite the fact that Gambit was missing and Rogue was not herself. There are things about the X-Men and parts of characters I like, even when my two favorite characters aren't prevelant, are not both in the movie, or are poorly portrayed. :heart:

 

[Neptune]

Good gosh...i don't know where to start...^^
You bring up everything i hate about him as an argument to love him.

He is a criminal...he is a nosewise stubborn motormouth...a none teamplayer doing "his thing"...he don't respect people.
He has nothing in common with Cable....Cable IS an authority fiugure.
His love for Rogue is pathetic.
He is NOT the only Ex-criminal-superhero...switching sides is a common motive in comicwriting.
(Even Archangel served Apocalypse.)
In most storarcs he could have been replaced by Wolverine who shares his positive traits.
I am glad that he is the only hero wearing a trenchcoat regulary, because it looks...odd at best.
The playcard-throwing motive has come up with some other characters before, for example Bulseye.
And all that Cajun-talk...what's a Cajun anyway?!
I hope somebody else give it another try to explain.
t:

PS:
Still...please no offense...I'm really interested in how someone can love that character at all.

I'm sorry but most of your arguments for not liking Gambit are really bad.

It's true that Gambit is a loner but he can function in team as well. He's not like Wolverine who sometimes just ignores orders.
He respects people. He's just rebellious,cocky (although his cockyness is a mask) and has a devil may care attitude, that's why it might seem like he doesn't respect people.
You say he has nothing in common with Cable. Does a character have to have something in common with Cable to be interesting? I sure don't think so.
No he is not the only ex criminal superhero(only the coolestt: ) So? Does that make him less interesting because he's not the only one?
There has never been a storyarc where Gambit could have been replaced with Wolverine. That's a slap in the face for Gambit an Wolverine fans. They are 2 complete different characters. They only have 2 things in common. they are both rebels and they are loners. And they even are different kind of loners. Wolverine is a loner by nature Gambit by choice. why? Wolverine doesn't have social skills, Gambit does, he can fit in with almost all types of people but he chooses not to.
The trench coat is just a matter of taste.
The playcards are symbolic for Gambit. He lives life like a gambler and he's a heck of a card player.
Although his Cajun talk might not be accurate and a bit of a stereotype, it does make unique. How many Cajun superheroes are there?

anyway i gave it a try.

 

[Karea07]

Kevin Zegers or Jamie Dornan (if you want young)

 

[Sturmwolf]

But this is the Gambit Casting thread and most people posting here really do want Gambit in the movie.

And so it is quit the right place to get an answer to my question.^^
Here I find people who might know things about him that I missed.
I'm not trying to do a flame war with you all.
I'm curious about what makes this (<negative attitude here>) character so successful.

 

[Sturmwolf]

You say he has nothing in common with Cable. Does a character have to have something in common with Cable to be interesting? I sure don't think so.
No he is not the only ex criminal superhero. So? Does that make him less interesting because he's not the only one?
...
The playcards are symbolic for Gambit. He lives life like a gambler and he's a heck of a card player.

These were some arguments of emmymae I reacted to, not mine.

 

[Superhero 101]

Man i don't care who the heck they cast as long as i get GAMBIT in X4

 

[LadyVader]

And so it is quit the right place to get an answer to my question.^^
Here I find people who might know things about him that I missed.
I'm not trying to do a flame war with you all.
I'm curious about what makes this (<negative attitude here>) character so successful.

What's the point of us telling you why we like him when you simply dismiss it.

He's a smartass, you don't like that he's a smartass. He's a charmer, you don't like that he's a charmer. He looks damn cool, you don't think he looks damn cool.

The jury is in. You don't like Gambit. He's is a love him or hate him type character. Always gets a reaction out of people, wether is positive or negative. It's another thing I like about him.

 

[R_LaReaux]

I could give you quite a few reasons why I personally like him, such as being a cultural icon for an ethnic group that is largely overlooked. Even though the few references to Cajuns tend to be exagerrated stereotypes, they are still references to a dying people. That's why I liked Gambit when he was first introduced, but that isn't the only reason I still like him today.

Yes, in many regards his personality is a lot like Wolverine's, except that Remy isn't an outplayed and overdone cliche. Since the eighties, Wolverine has pretty much been the center of attention. I don't mind the concept behind him, but there really can be too much of a good thing. The fact that Wolverine has developed immortality because he's a fan favorite doesn't really help his case either. To make matters worse they adapt him however they wish to keep him commercially trendy, which is then quickly explained by a mysterious past. He was even a samurai for **** sake.

Remy on the other hand has pretty much remained the same since his inception. He's an underdog character and often overlooked as far as the X-Men go. He hasn't been messed with to the point that he's a running joke, and the fact that he's only used in moderation makes him that much more enjoyable. The only problem I've ever had with him is that most writers feel the need to define him by a relationship when both he and Rogue are strong enough stand alone characters that they don't need a crutch.

 

[LadyVader]

He hasn't been messed with!? Man, where HAVE you been? He's been blinded, emasculated and now turned into a Horseman of Apocalypse for NO good reason!

Good God, out of all the X-men that were popular in the 90's, he's been the MOST messed with.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

I truly agree with you that Gambit is a character who always raises an opinion. There aren't (or there are very few) people who are indifferent to his character. You either love him, or hate him. I do think that both the lovers and haters choose to enlighten different parts of his character, or even different sides of the same part.
But I really don't get when people compare him to Wolverine. It's like ccomparing Gorgonzola cheese to Parmesan cheese. They are completely different, even though they are cheese. Yes, Gambit is a loner, Logan is a loner, so what?

If you pay attention at them for more than two seconds, you will see how different they are. Women is the word. Look at them through this side. Logan gets his women like Jack Bauer would get his women. He doesn't jump on them. Gambit is a seductive *****. He jokes, he plays, he is even cheesy, in a way that make women laugh. Let's take a look as to what Jean said:

"I must confess, infuriating and arrogant as Gambit can be... those eyes, that grin, the body-- it takes a girls breath away."

(Logan isn't the kind of guy who would take anyone's breath with his looks, but rather with his claws). Gambit is charming, and polite. Two words that are the exact opposite of what Logan is defined for.

"I think the more nervous you get-- the more jokes you crack."

"Gambit: If we were as evil as ev'body t'inks-- we'd have grabbed a few of dem as hostages.
Jean: Gambit!
Gambit: I said, "if." "

And about this one,

one's always on me about tellin' th' truth -- but it never works both ways. Never stops people from keeping secrets from me... All I've ever done since joining the X-Men is everythin' I've been asked to do-- an' I've done them well! You think the least I could get is a pat on the back... but the least I got was gettin' left to die in a frozen wasteland...

He's quite right.

Wolverine keeps telling everyone of the bad things he's done in the past. Sorry, I don't usually read comics, but he speaks and speaks, but we almost never seen him doing anything that bad. When he goes berserk, its never to kill someone good. He's always killing the villains. Gambit has done something awful in scale, and then has been dropped by the X-men. Logan is the one who drops the X-men.

Gambit has always helped the X-Men, he's mostly always the one to be considered the traitor, and most of the time he was not. He keeps being stabbed on the back by his own teammates, but he likes them (in an egoist way, sure) to the point wher he never leaves. Logan? Someone taps his back in the wrong way and he leaves. He can't take anything, always going out, giving up, dropping.

I don't see how they are similar.

 

[Sturmwolf]

I could give you quite a few reasons why I personally like him, such as being a cultural icon for an ethnic group that is largely overlooked. Even though the few references to Cajuns tend to be exagerrated stereotypes, they are still references to a dying people.

Yep...I had never heard of an ethnic group called Cajun before this thread.^^

 

[Sturmwolf]

...
But I really don't get when people compare him to Wolverine. It's like ccomparing Gorgonzola cheese to Parmesan cheese. They are completely different, even though they are cheese. Yes, Gambit is a loner, Logan is a loner, so what?
...
I don't see how they are similar.

They are not that similar as a character, but as a storytellingtool to the writer.
If you need some tough guy with a heart of gold, you could pick both.
If you need someone who plays for the team but not necessary with the team, you could pick both.
That's the point about comparing them.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Well, then blame the writers and their lack of criativity to explore the diffrent sides of such different characters. If you need someone who has some trouble opening up, choose Cyclops, Logan, Gambit, Rogue, or Storm, or even Colossus. You have trouble picking mysterious pasts, take Storm, Logan, Gambit, Rogue...you have trouble choosing someone who has been evil, take Beast, Rogue... you want a sassy, take Kitty, Rogue, Jubilee...
Seriously, if you take a closer look, all the characters share some quite common points, and most of them, due to so many years of stories, have been bad, mysterious, good, lost their powers, gained them back, died, reappeared... They're all different versions of the same thing.

This must be why I love Ulitmate Gambit. They never had the time to screw him. His appearance is quick, brilliant, and translates Gambit very well, although I'm not a fan of his look.

 

[@JeanGrey]

Sturmwolf i have read your posts for many days now and i really wonder if you have read comics or only just few issues of a certain writer and what books(if you are based on Milligan's run quit that b**s**t at once!).

When i first caught up with comics i did not read issues carefully and noticed too many similarities among characters. But ONLY after a careful read-through i made the distiction between them. I can DEFINETELY see that Wolverine and Gambit are two very different characters. Even if they are loners they are different types of loners.

I am not trying to be sarcastic, I am just posting my very personal point of view and how I refer to characters based on what i know about them.

 

[Angamb]

anyone know cajun actors?

 

[Matt.S99]

nope,but we dont really need a cajun actor for gambit,thats why its called acting

 

[04nbod]

nothing worse than a dodgy accent though

 

[Angamb]

We have to search a little. Surely there is a great cajun actor out threre that looks like Gambit.

 

[Matt.S99]

 

[Neptune]

Am i the only who doesn't want him for Gambit?