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Yea even though everything to a degree for jl:mortal sounded like crap and i am glad it got dropped and wb looking to finally be on the ball with dc films i do really hope photos/artwork of the costumes do get leaked out so we could atless see the direction of the costumes.
 
can you pm Green Arrow: Escape from Supermax, and Thor. But what if JL:Mortal was a great comic book movie. If I remember correctly some people on the board hated Dark Knight because of Heath Ledger and Joker wore face paint but when the movie came everyone said it stook to the comics and it was the best comic book movie ever! So the lesson of the story don't judge a book (or a movie) by its cover(or some info).

Well, I felt a bit suspicious when the Dark Knight was better than everything before anyone had actually SEEN the thing...:woot:

Yes, us geeks are a superstitious and cowardly lot. Details A and B would make the movie a COMPLETE FAILIURE or THE BEST MOVIE IN HISTORY depending on how it is sold. This movie in particular seemed universally hated, and I never understood why. I never read anything that sounded negative regarding the tone or story, and the bulk of the hate that fell on the casting was really unfair, niggling details that wouldn't really be problematic if the plot was strong, wich again, there was no indication it wouln't be.

I've personally given up on WB making this or any other movie featuring heros that haven't been done. They got a 3 Potter films left, and they got other stuff, they'll do Batman again, they'll do Superman all over again, and sure they'll do Green Lantern...LoL! Gotcha on that last one! It's a script like Teen Titans is a script, like Batman vs Superman is a script like Wonderwoman is a script and so they shall remain...scripts.
 
Regardless of all the negativity surrounding this movie, I still want it to happen.
 
^ You still want this particular version of JL made?
 
No thanks. Luckily it isn't, and we'll get something different later.
 
Steve, from http://www.savesuperman.com/ said that ''Justice League'' will problably be released in 2012/2013, with a new director, a new cast and a new locations, but nothing was said about the script.

I Wonder...
 
^ You still want this particular version of JL made?
The one with the Oscar winning director and DoP, and award winning production and costumer designers with a story straight out of the comic-books?
Why not?
 
The one with the Oscar winning director and DoP, and award winning production and costumer designers with a story straight out of the comic-books?
Why not?

Oh, no, no Antonello. You're looking at what the movie has! You have to look at what it doesn't have, or what you don't know about it! Why focus on wide positive elements of it, when you can concentrate on wich Green Lantern is in it?
 
Oh, no, no Antonello. You're looking at what the movie has! You have to look at what it doesn't have, or what you don't know about it! Why focus on wide positive elements of it, when you can concentrate on wich Green Lantern is in it?
The same one that was in the animated series. I didn't read people complaining about that in these years. Hal Jordan could have been mentioned as being off-world for a mission.
If the Justice League were successful, we would have seen a Green Lantern origin trilogy, starting with Hal Jordan and getting by the third movie to have Stewart and Gardner as temporary replacements/back-ups. No Kyle, please.
 
The same one that was in the animated series. I didn't read people complaining about that in these years. Hal Jordan could have been mentioned as being off-world for a mission.
If the Justice League were successful, we would have seen a Green Lantern origin trilogy, starting with Hal Jordan and getting by the third movie to have Stewart and Gardner as temporary replacements/back-ups. No Kyle, please.

Wrong! I'm seriously starting to think you can't apreciate the fine art of nitpicking.

You're supposed to say "No! John Stewart is boring!"

Because just "a guy" using a powerfull ring to create constructs out of pure energy in itself is boring. Only "THE ONE" can make it fun!

In any case, you're not supposed to worry wether Justice League will entertain you. You're supposed to worry wether other guys are willing to forgo mountains of cash and not do their own movies because they're uncomfortable with this one. That's the important thing!

Yeah, sorry for the sarcasm, but it peeves me a bit that people's reasons for disliking a movie are so shallow. But I guess folks will apreciate it more when we have "nothing"(DC related) coming to a theater near us. It wasn't so long ago such was the case...
 
Steve, from http://www.savesuperman.com/ said that ''Justice League'' will problably be released in 2012/2013, with a new director, a new cast and a new locations, but nothing was said about the script.

I Wonder...

Aren't WB using the Marvel method now? They had better get cracking on the solo films before JL is released if they are doing that.

The only solid JL franchise they have is Batman.

Flash and WW are MIA, Superman is getting a reboot but they're far from close to shooting scenes yet, GA is in development hell, GL is the farthest along with a rookie director who needs to be replaced by a sci-fi veteran and it's not greenlit IIRC.

It would take years to release them all before the first JL movie.
 
Wrong! I'm seriously starting to think you can't apreciate the fine art of nitpicking.

You're supposed to say "No! John Stewart is boring!"

Because just "a guy" using a powerfull ring to create constructs out of pure energy in itself is boring. Only "THE ONE" can make it fun!

Agreed.

In any case, you're not supposed to worry wether Justice League will entertain you.

Being an entertaining movie will mean nothing if it tanks, the film shows crappy versions of certain characters which will taint how the public view them for generations and takes several good DC franchises with it in the process.

You're supposed to worry wether other guys are willing to forgo mountains of cash

They forgo mountains of cash every day they can't make other DC super-hero franchises which aren't Batman and Superman, fail to execute the ones who do get into movies then bury them for decades when they can't make them reach their creative and financial potential or do nothing with successful franchises (Teen Titans, Legion, WW).

and not do their own movies because they're uncomfortable with this one. That's the important thing!

The important thing is that the lesser franchises be in the best shape possible.

JL puts several of the higher profile ones at risk for nothing. If they fail they'll blame the franchises only and we'll be stuck with Batman and Superman for another 20 years in film and tv.

Yeah, sorry for the sarcasm, but it peeves me a bit that people's reasons for disliking a movie are so shallow. But I guess folks will apreciate it more when we have "nothing"(DC related) coming to a theater near us.

WB have failed to get any non-Superman and Batman franchises up and running with decades of time to do it and the times they did get them on screen have failed to deliver since they don't understand their own super-hero franchises despite having DC Comics at their beck and call.

We're better off with nothing being constantly bombarded with crappy films which destroy good super-hero properties.

It wasn't so long ago such was the case...

You mean like Batman and Superman for the thousandth time? Or the crappy Catwoman movie?
 
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Originally, back in the days when superman could jump and not fly, Batman was a guy using guns. If i remember correctly. So in a sence, it's respecting the source-material to have Batman use firearms :D
 
Being an entertaining movie will mean nothing if it tanks, the film shows crappy versions of certain characters which will taint how the public view them for generations and takes several good DC franchises with it in the process.

So...when you go to a movie you want what?

They forgo mountains of cash every day they can't make other DC super-hero franchises which aren't Batman and Superman, fail to execute the ones who do get into movies then bury them for decades when they can't make them reach their creative and financial potential or do nothing with successful franchises (Teen Titans, Legion, WW).
PPSSSSST! Don't tell no one, but they still CAN'T "make other DC super-hero franchises which aren't Batman and Superman"! If you really think anything else is moving, is something more than a script, then, well, I guess i can apreciate a man of faith.

You really oughtta pay attention to Warner. They are "reactors". They'll never get anything done. If you think they won't cancell Green Lantern because Star Trek fails, then just you wait.

But if you're willing to wait more for nothing then more power to ya'.

The important thing is that the lesser franchises be in the best shape possible.
The important thing is that the movie delivers and insofar neither you nor anyone alse has shown me the script that has the movie be horrible, or even a wrong representation of the characters. Wich really lends itself to me thinking that opinion is drawn directly from someone's rectum.

WB have failed to get any non-Superman and Batman franchises up and running with decades of time to do it and the times they did get them on screen have failed to deliver since they don't understand their own super-hero franchises despite having DC Comics at their beck and call.

We're better off with nothing being constantly bombarded with crappy films which destroy good super-hero properties.
Well, straight up Superhero movies, the only one between Batman and Robin and Batman Begins was Catwoman, and it's potential as a Superhero franchise is arguable at best. You want it either to be a blooming forest or a desert and that's it? Well, that's your prerrogative I guess, but I still don't see why the hate on the movie itself. And what's the point of not being bombarded with "crappy" films if the alternative is no films at all? They're not "saving " the franchises, more like, stowing them forever. If your point is that if they don't make it the best film in history(c) they're destroying any film possibilities is ridiculous. If they don't make ANY movies ever, that doesn't make it more likely a good movie will be done! If the characters don't ever get done in film and other mediums that means more people fail to have access to the characters. By your standards, if they hadn't done the many Batman movies and cartoon they have done, then we'd still have had Batman Begins and Dark Knight? Beach, Pleez! Obviously the more known characters get done more, wich makes them even more known wich makes them more profitable wich makes it more likely Warner will reserve a space in their schedule for them. WIch is why, since Harry Potter is more known than Green Lantern, it's very likely Green Lantern stays in the land of scripts.

But you like reading scripts of websites, don'tcha?
 
The one with the Oscar winning director and DoP, and award winning production and costumer designers with a story straight out of the comic-books?
Why not?

You mean the same one that was being rushed into production, staring a below par cast, had script issues despite it being 'fantastic', was tried to be past off as an Australian film to get made cheaper and the constant division within the studio as to whether the film should be made in the first place? If that's you idea of a movie that's looking in good shape then good luck to you.
 
So...when you go to a movie you want what?

A good film.

PPSSSSST! Don't tell no one, but they still CAN'T "make other DC super-hero franchises which aren't Batman and Superman"!

They do, but its incredibly rare and usually crappy.

It's really quite confusing. Surely they want their super-hero films to succeed? They cant get cash from a super-hero franchise they kill.

If you really think anything else is moving, is something more than a script, then, well, I guess i can apreciate a man of faith.

That wouldn't surprise me at this point.

You really oughtta pay attention to Warner. They are "reactors". They'll never get anything done.

They react to what they want to react to.

Marvel's been making good super-hero movies for years but WB's response has been crappy adaptions, a defanged Americanized Hellblazer, comic adaptions which aren't super-hero films, a weak Superman and good Batman films.

Dark Horse is even giving them a run for their money in the genre with Hellboy.

The film industry is under-going a super-hero craze and all they can do is give us Batman.

If you think they won't cancell Green Lantern because Star Trek fails, then just you wait.

True.

It really doesn't make any sense, though. By that logic GL should be fine since TDK was a hit.

But if you're willing to wait more for nothing then more power to ya'.

It's better then watching terrible adaptions.

The important thing is that the movie delivers

And if it doesn't Miller would have killed about seven potentially huge super-hero franchises at once.

and insofar neither you nor anyone alse has shown me the script that has the movie be horrible,

Fair enough.

or even a wrong representation of the characters.

They hired Megan Gale to be WW. They may as well have put a bullet to the WW franchise's head with that.

Wich really lends itself to me thinking that opinion is drawn directly from someone's rectum.

You think everything was going great for JL, then? What did you like about it?

Well, straight up Superhero movies, the only one between Batman and Robin and Batman Begins was Catwoman, and it's potential as a Superhero franchise is arguable at best.

The reason it didn't have much potential is because they didn't come close to using it.

They took away any connection to Batman in it, didn't use any comic characters which made the title Catwman iconic in the first place, altered the mythos completely into being a bad Cheetah impersonation and execute it horribly.

Potential only works if it's used.

Ony a complete idiot could have screwed that movie up and WB found that idiot.

You want it either to be a blooming forest or a desert and that's it?

It's already a desert.

WB needs their training wheels for the solo super-hero films. This requires one or two then expanding once they're sure they got it right. JL is beyond that. They can't even get one lesser super-hero right what makes you think they can take several at once?

Well, that's your prerrogative I guess, but I still don't see why the hate on the movie itself.

JL failing removes the possibility of there ever being a "forest" of the high profile superheroes and possibly other non-Batman and Superman super-hero films as well.

That's to much risk at once. It's unnecessary.

And what's the point of not being bombarded with "crappy" films if the alternative is no films at all?

Because it means WB might use them proerly in the future if they finaly get around it.

A bad film not only doesn't show the public its potential, it taints how Hollywood and the public view it for future generations and the franchise gets buried.

Lowering your standards only mean WB will make more crappy adaptions.

They're not "saving " the franchises, more like, stowing them forever.
Like that's any better.


If your point is that if they don't make it the best film in history(c) they're destroying any film possibilities is ridiculous.

It's true.

Any failed movie or high profile project put the franchise on the line.

The only ones except are Superman and Batman since they have faith since their succeeded since prior generations made enough good work to make relevant, good versions in different high profile formats and allowed the public to know those two franchises on an intimate level so they know what theyre getting into.

No other DC franchise has it on that level like those two.

If they don't make ANY movies ever, that doesn't make it more likely a good movie will be done!

It's better then watching crap. Why would I want to watch a horrible movie about a franchise I care about? Especially when I know the people making it can do a better job with their adptions.


If the characters don't ever get done in film and other mediums that means more people fail to have access to the characters.

People aren't going to care about the characters if they are given sub-standard movies or tv shows about them.

They're going to avoid them and WB will bury them in a vault for decades.

By your standards, if they hadn't done the many Batman movies and cartoon they have done, then we'd still have had Batman Begins and Dark Knight? Beach, Pleez!

No, I mean if they did their usual tactics they employ today Batman would have stopped existing in solo movies, cartoons etc after Adam West's show.

That's what they've done to the lesser properties.

Obviously the more known characters get done more, wich makes them even more known wich makes them more profitable wich makes it more likely Warner will reserve a space in their schedule for them.

Only that hasn't worked out very well for them, either. Even when they succeed for a time they get ignored not set up to the next stage.

The only lesser property they did this with was Justice League and they still couldn't set it up properly where its failure wouldn't hurt its lesser franchises.


WIch is why, since Harry Potter is more known than Green Lantern, it's very likely Green Lantern stays in the land of scripts.

Wonder Woman was more known before Harry Potter was a hit it still didn't get a big budget, A-list cast great film or even an excellent cartoon series.

It's WB's own fault GL and the others aren't more popular. They have the resources to do this yet they chooose not to. How do they expect the public to become fans of something they never see?

No-one's going to care about GL untl they do something about it, it was the same with Harry Potter. No-one cared until Rowling did her books, built up the franchise's name with good product in the public and raised its profile into juggarnaut status. WB could do this with any of their lesser properties and some are easier to do this then others like Wonder Woman, Legion and Teen Titans.

But you like reading scripts of websites, don'tcha?

I like good results. WB hasn't delivered them.
 
You mean the same one that was being rushed into production, staring a below par cast, had script issues despite it being 'fantastic', was tried to be past off as an Australian film to get made cheaper and the constant division within the studio as to whether the film should be made in the first place? If that's you idea of a movie that's looking in good shape then good luck to you.
Again, the first X-Men movie was rushed into production, had a criticized cast (with a last minute replacement for Wolverine) and was being rewritten on the set. My only concern was with a couple of the cast members.
 
Again, the first X-Men movie was rushed into production, had a criticized cast (with a last minute replacement for Wolverine) and was being rewritten on the set. My only concern was with a couple of the cast members.

JL was rushed in simply because Superman under performed, nothing but a knee jerk reaction, X-men at least had studio backing for it, execs at WB were divided, it was ill conceived and fans wanted nothing to do with it, WB panicked. As for the script, it was said to have had the entire third act re-written, that's not exactly the same as a few changes here and there on set, an entire portion of the film re-written, and only after the writers strike started did they decide to do it. It matters little now, the film is dead and any potential JL movie is years away.
 
JL was rushed in simply because Superman under performed, nothing but a knee jerk reaction, X-men at least had studio backing for it, execs at WB were divided, it was ill conceived and fans wanted nothing to do with it, WB panicked. As for the script, it was said to have had the entire third act re-written, that's not exactly the same as a few changes here and there on set, an entire portion of the film re-written, and only after the writers strike started did they decide to do it.

X-men had a much better cast then JL, too.

It matters little now, the film is dead and any potential JL movie is years away.

:D
 
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