Superman Returns Official Rate and Review Superman Returns thread!!!

[Michael Corleone]

There seems to be either ya love it or hate it thing going on with this film.

At least with the critics

 

[LadyVader]

More love then hate... and so far those who hate it are not very objective.

Most of them say it's a great film but it has its flaws. Nobody said that it could've been better, which I think is great because it showed that the movie fulfilled its potential.

 

[J.Howlett]

Fatboy,

What's interesting about that CHUD review is that, technically, he's right. Lex's plan, from the novel, is extremely absurd but considering the character, I don't think it's too far off.

So, while it is extremely dumb and illogical, it serves a greater purpose and that purpose is the character of Kal-El and his path toward acceptance and redemption.

ultimate, as for Ra's plan for Gotham, his was more of cleansing plan. Logically, Ra's has a point. The corruption in that city is so deep routed within the infrastructure, only a cleansing of this sort could bring about massive change from the ground up.

Now, it's an absolutely crazy plan but I understand his logic. And I like the fact that Bruce tells him that there ARE good people in Gotham and give him time to work this out. And that's the difference between Bruce and Ra's.

They essentially want the same thing, but Ra's is too far gone to see that he's gone down the wrong road to his higher enlightnment plan he wants for the world.

 

[Tron5000]

There seems to be either ya love it or hate it thing going on with this film.

At least with the critics

Hey, like a day or two ago, didn't you say you were finished with the Hype? You said goodbye and everything.

Liar.


Drama queen.

 

[Tron5000]

Anyone read the FOXNews review yet? Boooooo........

It says the film cost $300 million. Don't recall ever hearing that before.

 

[DorkyFresh]

It says the film cost $300 million. Don't recall ever hearing that before.

they included the what WB spent on trying to make Superman Lives. it's Fox's subtle way of trying to sway people's opinions towards the negative...

 

[Michael Corleone]

Hey, like a day or two ago, didn't you say you were finished with the Hype? You said goodbye and everything.

Liar.


Drama queen.

Yeah? There a point somewhere in that statement? I got really pissed off and I calmed down. What? I can't have a bad day. There are other things in my life that involve a lot more stress then this place. But now I'm not taking s***, and I'm not putting up with fools anymore. Especially ones that cry liar and Drama Queen. I tried being the nice guy. Those days are over. So back off.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That Foxnews review is crap. What is up with them lying about the cost of the movie and talking about rather gay people support Superman Returns?

 

[Dan33977]

Apparently Ebert gave the film 2 stars, saying it wasn't campy enough and doesn't live up to the original (in his mind).

 

[Hunter Rider]

That Foxnews review is crap. What is up with them lying about the cost of the movie and talking about rather gay people support Superman Returns?

Perhaps some bitterness towards Singer ?

 

[bsquad]

but with civilization destroyed, wouldn't money be useless?

its one of those things that symbolizes power. he has money and he has what everyone else wants. and if they want more they have to come to him and give to him. plus he could probably make his own civilization if he wanted.

 

[The Riddler]

like i said, around 82% on rotten tomatoes.

i told you all, i'm rarely wrong.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Perhaps some bitterness towards Singer ?

I would bet on it...Fox is a very petty company and Foxnews is the worse so-called news oulet on the planet.

 

[The Shape]

they included the what WB spent on trying to make Superman Lives. it's Fox's subtle way of trying to sway people's opinions towards the negative...

or their way of speaking the truth.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That Review from Slant Magazine is awful. What the hell is that guy talking about?

 

[monsterballs]

That Review from Slant Magazine is awful. What the hell is that guy talking about?

You could say that for ANY of their reviews.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You could say that for ANY of their reviews.

That site is ridiculous.

 

[WorthyStevens]

THE CHIEF REPORT

Written by Michael Dougherty & Dan Harris
Directed by Bryan Singer
Running Time: 2:34
Rated PG-13 for some intense action violence

B+

THE OPENING​

The Man of Steel is back in Superman Returns and he's better than ever.

THE STORY​

Astronomers think they've found the remnants of Krypton so Superman flies out to see if anyone is left alive. He's gone for five years and in that time, the people of Earth have moved on, especially Lois Lane. When Superman returns, he finds Lois dating Richard White, and she has a five year old son, Jason. She recently wrote an editorial about why the world is better off without Superman which won her the Pulitzer Prize. Meanwhile, Lex Luthor is up to no good again. After being on trial for the better part of those five years, he's released because Superman couldn't appear as a witness. This time, Lex knows a lot more than he used to. He discovers Superman's Fortress of Solitude and in it, the secrets of all of the known galaxies. Lex wants to use the special crystals left for Superman by his father Jor-El, to take over the world and kill a few billion people at the same time. Oh, and of course, kill Superman as well.

THE REVIEW​

I have to admit, I got goose bumps just watching the opening credits of Superman Returns because they use the John Williams score from the original film. Even the style of the text is the same. And when you add in the fact that they use clips from Marlon Brando's performance, there's a lot to connect the new film with the old one. Not the least of which is Brandon Routh as Clark Kent/Superman. For better or worse, Routh will be compared to Christopher Reeve, because Reeve was Superman. Unlike Batman Begins where Christian Bale re-started the franchise, there was no reason to compare Bale to the previous actors who played Batman, because none of them were associated with the role (as evidenced by three different actors playing Batman in four movies.) Tobey Maguire was a well known actor before he took the role of Spider-Man. Christopher Reeve however, was, and will always be, Superman. So Routh had huge shoes to fill because of the universal love everyone has for Reeve. And Routh stepped up to the plate and delivered, big time. There are moments where you swear you're watching a younger version of Reeve. That's not to say Routh mimicked Reeve's performance, but there are times when you can hear it in his voice, or see it in the way he plays with his glasses or stumbles around the office. At the same time, Routh makes the role his own with his All-American chiseled good looks and wholesome charm. Superman has always been the one superhero that always stood for truth and justice. He was never the type you thought could fall to the dark side or would do something bad even if the result was good. He is the ultimate symbol for all that is good in the world, and Routh embodies that spirit wholeheartedly.

The rest of the cast was also very strong. I had my doubt about Kate Bosworth stepping into the role of Lois Lane, but I realized that I never really liked Margot Kidder's performance, so I was more accepting of Bosworth's take on the character. She at least seems to be the same age as Superman so I can understand the heartbreak she went through when he left. James Marsden, on break from his role as Cyclops in the X-Men series, was solid as Lois Lane's new love interest. What I liked most about what they did with his character was that they didn't go the usual route of making him an ass. He was a stand-up guy, which made Superman even more conflicted over whether to fight for Lois. Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor is just perfect casting. Gene Hackman's version of Lex was always loud and over-the-top, while extremely entertaining. Spacey makes Lex less obnoxious, but much, much meaner. His plan to take over the world and kill Superman may not be original, but the way he goes about it is very dark. There is a moment in the film where it all comes to a head and it will leave you holding your breath. And the last actor of note is young Tristan Lake Laebu as Jason, Lois's child. A lot of times when you put a kid into a movie like this, he'll be annoying or even worse, a bad actor. But Tristan was just the right amount of cute and held his own amongst the rest of the experienced cast.

The interesting thing about Superman Returns is that the Lex taking-over-the-world story line isn't the main focus of the film. The main story is really all about Superman returning after his five year absence and wondering whether he's still needed in the world. Quickly he sees that most people need him, but the one person he wants to need him is Lois, and she seems to have moved on. There are a few set pieces that are completely action-packed, including one with Superman saving an airplane full of people and a good 30 minute water sequence that was breathtaking. But considering the movie is a little over two-and-a-half hours long, there wasn't nearly as much action as I expected. The filmmakers concentrated more on an actual story than just throwing a ton of special effects in to keep people happy. The dialogue was refreshing and not completely cheesy or corny as some movies are. There was a definite will-they-or-won't-they romance going on between Superman and Lois, as well as there being a big secret that isn't fully realized till the end of the film. The filmmakers would intercut the Superman/Lois story with the Lex story so that the movie never got bogged down in one or the other for too long. When the two stories finally collided, it made for an energetic final act that showcased things happening to Superman that you never would have expected. The one thing the movie doesn't do though, is answer one huge question: How do people not see that Superman and Clark Kent are the same person???

THE BOTTOM LINE​

So overall, I thought Superman Returns was a great reboot to the franchise. Bryan Singer and company decided to make a film instead of a special effects movie and it paid off in spades. This is definitely a must-see movie on the big screen.

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[Binker]

Wow, it's good/news bad news on the review front.

The good news is: Ebert didn't like Superman Returns (He did like Spider-Man either and I loved it)

How in the hell is that good?

Still: the good reviews beat the bad reviews anyway. And even if SR has flaws, thats why sequels today improve the first films. At least its good to begin with.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

like i said, around 82% on rotten tomatoes.

i told you all, i'm rarely wrong.

And this time I agree with you
82% is a good result

 

[Ita-KalEl]

THE CHIEF REPORT

Written by Michael Dougherty & Dan Harris
Directed by Bryan Singer
Running Time: 2:34
Rated PG-13 for some intense action violence

B+

THE OPENING​

The Man of Steel is back in Superman Returns and he's better than ever.

THE STORY​

Astronomers think they've found the remnants of Krypton so Superman flies out to see if anyone is left alive. He's gone for five years and in that time, the people of Earth have moved on, especially Lois Lane. When Superman returns, he finds Lois dating Richard White, and she has a five year old son, Jason. She recently wrote an editorial about why the world is better off without Superman which won her the Pulitzer Prize. Meanwhile, Lex Luthor is up to no good again. After being on trial for the better part of those five years, he's released because Superman couldn't appear as a witness. This time, Lex knows a lot more than he used to. He discovers Superman's Fortress of Solitude and in it, the secrets of all of the known galaxies. Lex wants to use the special crystals left for Superman by his father Jor-El, to take over the world and kill a few billion people at the same time. Oh, and of course, kill Superman as well.

THE REVIEW​

I have to admit, I got goose bumps just watching the opening credits of Superman Returns because they use the John Williams score from the original film. Even the style of the text is the same. And when you add in the fact that they use clips from Marlon Brando's performance, there's a lot to connect the new film with the old one. Not the least of which is Brandon Routh as Clark Kent/Superman. For better or worse, Routh will be compared to Christopher Reeve, because Reeve was Superman. Unlike Batman Begins where Christian Bale re-started the franchise, there was no reason to compare Bale to the previous actors who played Batman, because none of them were associated with the role (as evidenced by three different actors playing Batman in four movies.) Tobey Maguire was a well known actor before he took the role of Spider-Man. Christopher Reeve however, was, and will always be, Superman. So Routh had huge shoes to fill because of the universal love everyone has for Reeve. And Routh stepped up to the plate and delivered, big time. There are moments where you swear you're watching a younger version of Reeve. That's not to say Routh mimicked Reeve's performance, but there are times when you can hear it in his voice, or see it in the way he plays with his glasses or stumbles around the office. At the same time, Routh makes the role his own with his All-American chiseled good looks and wholesome charm. Superman has always been the one superhero that always stood for truth and justice. He was never the type you thought could fall to the dark side or would do something bad even if the result was good. He is the ultimate symbol for all that is good in the world, and Routh embodies that spirit wholeheartedly.

The rest of the cast was also very strong. I had my doubt about Kate Bosworth stepping into the role of Lois Lane, but I realized that I never really liked Margot Kidder's performance, so I was more accepting of Bosworth's take on the character. She at least seems to be the same age as Superman so I can understand the heartbreak she went through when he left. James Marsden, on break from his role as Cyclops in the X-Men series, was solid as Lois Lane's new love interest. What I liked most about what they did with his character was that they didn't go the usual route of making him an ass. He was a stand-up guy, which made Superman even more conflicted over whether to fight for Lois. Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor is just perfect casting. Gene Hackman's version of Lex was always loud and over-the-top, while extremely entertaining. Spacey makes Lex less obnoxious, but much, much meaner. His plan to take over the world and kill Superman may not be original, but the way he goes about it is very dark. There is a moment in the film where it all comes to a head and it will leave you holding your breath. And the last actor of note is young Tristan Lake Laebu as Jason, Lois's child. A lot of times when you put a kid into a movie like this, he'll be annoying or even worse, a bad actor. But Tristan was just the right amount of cute and held his own amongst the rest of the experienced cast.

The interesting thing about Superman Returns is that the Lex taking-over-the-world story line isn't the main focus of the film. The main story is really all about Superman returning after his five year absence and wondering whether he's still needed in the world. Quickly he sees that most people need him, but the one person he wants to need him is Lois, and she seems to have moved on. There are a few set pieces that are completely action-packed, including one with Superman saving an airplane full of people and a good 30 minute water sequence that was breathtaking. But considering the movie is a little over two-and-a-half hours long, there wasn't nearly as much action as I expected. The filmmakers concentrated more on an actual story than just throwing a ton of special effects in to keep people happy. The dialogue was refreshing and not completely cheesy or corny as some movies are. There was a definite will-they-or-won't-they romance going on between Superman and Lois, as well as there being a big secret that isn't fully realized till the end of the film. The filmmakers would intercut the Superman/Lois story with the Lex story so that the movie never got bogged down in one or the other for too long. When the two stories finally collided, it made for an energetic final act that showcased things happening to Superman that you never would have expected. The one thing the movie doesn't do though, is answer one huge question: How do people not see that Superman and Clark Kent are the same person???

THE BOTTOM LINE​

So overall, I thought Superman Returns was a great reboot to the franchise. Bryan Singer and company decided to make a film instead of a special effects movie and it paid off in spades. This is definitely a must-see movie on the big screen.

http://www.moviereviews.cc/

Interesting review.

 

[The Riddler]

And this time I agree with you
82% is a good result

yes, it's decent.

 

[skruloos]

like i said, around 82% on rotten tomatoes.

i told you all, i'm rarely wrong.

So...you're closing the books on a total of 17 reviews? Interesting logic there.

 

[Nivek]

So, whats the positive to negative ratio currently?

 

[The Riddler]

So...you're closing the books on a total of 17 reviews? Interesting logic there.

i made my prediction several pages ago with 10 reviews when it had a 90% rating.