The Amazing Spider-Man OFFICIAL Rate & Review the Amazing Spider-Man! - Part 1

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you guys are nuts, I loved the movie. I will keep loving it everytime I see it. If you don't care for it thats your problem, go watch tobey and leave this place in peace.
 
The movie was crazy incredible. The suit looked epic, it showed him building the web shooter which showed how smart he was. They made Lizard look pretty damn scary. Over all, I rate this a 10/10. If the pole wasn't closed :(
 
Thats not my first posy Guest, I have posted many times before. I woul say the movie is awesome, especially when peter is playing that game on the webs......love it!
 
Saw it last night for the first time. I had been waiting for perfect middle back row Imax seats. Spider-Man has always been my fav character since I was two years old watching the cartoons and I've been collecting the comics since 1990. Got over half of ASM in NM condition, got a Spidey tattoo blah blah.

I found the film to be ultimately disappointing with moments of brilliance and rate it 6.5/10.

Despite being a purist, I have come to learn that they are always going to change stuff in other media interpretations so I was happy to go along with some changes and with Garfield in the lead despite his unconventional look so long as he played a great PP. But while I think he got a lot closer to PP's character than Maguire's portrayal, the script was just so bland.... it seemed to go nowhere, it's hard to articulate but it just felt so ....nondescript.

Here's what I liked and disliked-

LIKED-
-The webslinging seems to have been perfected, the final webslinging scene was breathtaking in 3D.
-The Spidey Vs Lizard fight in Midtown High was AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They have totally perfected the Spider-agilty and speed and I loved the violence and the way Spidey spun him up in a web. Best scene of the film by far
-Quite liked Garfield as PP, he showed his scientific side and nicely mixed the
teen angst with a tougher, cooler flipside to his personality that Peter always had in the comics but we never saw from Maguire. Good actor too.

DISLIKED-
-Origin totally f-ed up- Why did Spidey not track down the guy who killed Uncle Ben? Why was Ben shot in the street again when they could have had it happen at the home like in the comics? Why Did we never hear the Spider-Man mantra- WITH GREAT POWER THERE MUST ALSO COME - - GREAT RESPONSIBILITY! What a mess. The crucial moment that makes Spidey who he is and gives him his whole mission for life is when he captures the killer, and realises it's the guy he could have stopped and we never got that.

-STOP TAKING OFF THE MASK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was very annoying, the amount of times Spidey either took his mask off or was seen using his Spider-powers without a mask. NYC must have more CCTV per block than anywhere else in the world, this was just dumb. 1- Spidey would never do this, and 2- everyone would know who he is by the end of the week because of how much CCTV there is. Obviously the director was not comfortable with him wearing the mask all the time, but dammit- that's what Spidey does!

-In the final action scene Connors holds Spidey as he dangles over the side of the Oscorp building despite the fact that Spidey can stick to walls, duh.

-Why does everything have to be tied into Oscorp? Gwen works there, Connors works there, Peter gets bitten there. One of the things I always thought was cool about Spidey's rogues gallery is that they were all different unrelated characters with with their own unique stories and motivations. If everyone is just gonna be working for Norman it's kinda lame. And seeing as he 'is dying' that possibly points toward a biological Goblin rather than a costume/Goblin formula by way of a cure that goes wrong.

-Lizard did not sound like himself- with the drawn out Sssssss'.

-Spidey walking through a subway tunnel, mask off on the cell phone to Gwen. Having the mask off was one issue, but he should have been wall crawling, upside down or whatever, not walking!

-Peter revealing his secret to Gwen. One of the main dynamics about Peter and Gwen was his secret and wanting to tell her about it but not having the balls to do it, and in turn her occasionally doubting him because of his flakey behaviour. It would have been nice to see that play out over one or two films instead of Peter just coming out and telling her straight away. Man, where was the fun in that? Another missed opportunity. Again, being unmasked by the police and Capt Stacy finding out that way was lame. It would have been so much cooler if he put two and two together himself and when he died said 'look after Gwen' like in ASM 90.

They were my main gripes. When I think of SM1 now, every scene had a point to it, every scene progressed the story. By comparison TASM just felt like it was going nowhere sometimes.

For a sequel they need to get rid of Marc Webb, KEEP THE DAMN MASK ON! And get some decent script writers. Joss Whedon and Dan Slott being my ideal choice. Despite all the negatives TASM is a significant step towards a great Spidey film because they got an actor who can portray PP & SM well and the Webslinging, fight scenes and spider-agility were indeed Amazing. Too bad the rest of the film wasn't.

He DOES go after the killer. Do you notice that all robbers he catches, they always look similar to the killer. Did you also notice that flashback that shows the star tattoo on the killers wrist? So Spidey checks every robber's hand.
 
He DOES go after the killer. Do you notice that all robbers he catches, they always look similar to the killer. Did you also notice that flashback that shows the star tattoo on the killers wrist? So Spidey checks every robber's hand.

Yep.

And also, that's all he did. And then you get the dinner table scene with the staceys and Capt Stacey points out the spidey doesn't help, he's after guys who look alike. Not really helping. And you even see Pete realize that.

Also, the Mantra of GREAT POWER is there. It's not just said in those words. If the movie didn't have the responsibility angle (which is seen in the whole film) then I would not be happy.

But it's there in abundance :)
 
you guys are nuts, I loved the movie. I will keep loving it everytime I see it. If you don't care for it thats your problem, go watch tobey and leave this place in peace.
What do you mean? Most here seemed to love the movie, in fact i've heard a lot more people begining to bash Rami's films just because now there's a reboot.

I liked TASM, it was a great film, but it wasn't perfect, it had flaws, it's normal, that doesn't mean i hated it, this place is a rate and review thread, not a love the movie thread, if some people disliked it it doesn't mean they should leave this thread.

In fact, if you can't handle the criticism then you should be the one leaving this place in peace.
 
I totally agree with everything you said there!
Thanks, seriously, I thought this was settled long ago. Its 2012, It really surprised me to still see the discussion.

what i find funny is that in the TASM video game when he saves people they then thank him then take a photo with there camera phones... now i dont know what stages camera phones were in back when spiderman 2 was out but he would have been screwed during the train scene
Thats funny..
:dpf:
 
No nerd here? He could produce an equation not even Connors could.
As I said, he was a nerd, just not a caricature of one.

No he didn't, his father figured it out, he just gave it to Conners and lied about coming up with it. Same thing when he told the carjacker he developed the web fluid, when he bought it from Oscorp.

That's Parker though, he's pretty much for a lack of a better term, a perpetual loser. He's a dork that can't and shouldn't catch a break or seem cool. That's been in the characters DNA from when Lee and Ditko were doing the comics.
 
No he didn't, his father figured it out, he just gave it to Conners and lied about coming up with it. Same thing when he told the carjacker he developed the web fluid, when he bought it from Oscorp.

That's Parker though, he's pretty much for a lack of a better term, a perpetual loser. He's a dork that can't and shouldn't catch a break or seem cool. That's been in the characters DNA from when Lee and Ditko were doing the comics.

WHAT? Peter made the web fluid, and he didn't buy it from Oscorp.
 
Yep.

And also, that's all he did. And then you get the dinner table scene with the staceys and Capt Stacey points out the spidey doesn't help, he's after guys who look alike. Not really helping. And you even see Pete realize that.

Also, the Mantra of GREAT POWER is there. It's not just said in those words. If the movie didn't have the responsibility angle (which is seen in the whole film) then I would not be happy.

But it's there in abundance :)

Still, is not putting countless number of robbers in jail not helping the police?
 
Still, is not putting countless number of robbers in jail not helping the police?

But as Stacey says too, some of those where being observed by the cops to lead them to bigger fish :).

Also, Stacey felt that Spidey was on some revenge trip or something (have to see it again, so please correct me here if I'm wrong) and that he was interested in only serving himself. Not the people of New York.

He is helping, but also messing up months of police work. Such good scene and pointing out the errors Pete is making. It's just not a simple case of bad guy, get him jail. His crime fighting can have consequences for the law if he isn't responsible :)

Like I said though, I need to see the film again. I need money. Any help? :p
 
WHAT? Peter made the web fluid, and he didn't buy it from Oscorp.

When he's building the web shooters there's an opened Oscorp box on a table, and the web cartridge is the exact same kind he saw getting made when he was bitten.
 
When he's building the web shooters there's an opened Oscorp box on a table, and the web cartridge is the exact same kind he saw getting made when he was bitten.
Pretty sure he made the webbing FROM the bio-cable. He didn't just take the bio-cable out of the box and put it in his web-shooters. He seems to have mixed in some ingredients of his own that made it more... gooey and versatile - and not just a really strong cable.
 
And as for Connors saving Spidey on the rooftop at the end, yes, Spidey can walk on walls, but the Lizard destroyed his webshooters so he could have fallen to his death because he was too far away from the glass had Connors not caught him.

He was touching the glass. :dry:

It's funny how you say that you're a purist who is happy to go along with different interpretations of the character in other media despite the fact that you're complaining about the fact that the famous motto isn't said (which Marc Webb explained by the way, he said that since it was the film's theme it wasn't really necessary especially considering Ben says an alternate version of it), the fact that they didn't have the robber kill Uncle Ben at the house (which is pretty contrived anyway), Spider-Man not finding the killer, and ties to Oscorp. And really? Joss Whedon and Dan Slott? Joss Whedon is a great writer and all, but his style doesn't fit this Spider-Man universe. And Dan Slott's Spider-Man is basically a rip-off of Deadpool

Yes I am basically a purist, but I have come to accept that when Spidey is portrayed in other media they will change some things and that's cool. What's not cool is totally screwing up his origin and removing the moment that MAKES him Spider-Man- capturing and seeing who Ben's killer is. Without that scene, he's not the same character. He does not have the same purpose.

And not including the mantra just because it was in the Raimi films shows a lack of imagination on Webb and the scriptwriters part in that they did not have the confidence to believe their film would be different enough anyway even if they included it. The mantra is as crucial to Spidey as the scene when he captures the killer.

Joss Whedon is the best Marvel Studios writer full stop and if he can write the Avengers script so well I'm sure he'd have a good idea how to handle Spidey. Dan Slott is the best Spidey writer since JM DeMatties and his Spidey sounds nothing like Deadpool. Just because they are both smartasses does not make em the same. Slott's Spidey cracks wise but Deadpool is a full on nutjob.

He DOES go after the killer. Do you notice that all robbers he catches, they always look similar to the killer. Did you also notice that flashback that shows the star tattoo on the killers wrist? So Spidey checks every robber's hand.

I said he did not track down the killer.
Learn to read. :cwink:
 
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Pretty sure he made the webbing FROM the bio-cable. He didn't just take the bio-cable out of the box and put it in his web-shooters. He seems to have mixed in some ingredients of his own that made it more... gooey and versatile - and not just a really strong cable.

based on what we saw in the movie he just bought it...he didn't do any chemistry stuff to it
 
based on what we saw in the movie he just bought it...he didn't do any chemistry stuff to it
Why would they have him SAY he designed the webbing himself if he didn't? He didn't say "web-shooters," he said "webbing." All we have to go on is what the movie shows or tells us, and the movie gave us no reason to think Peter would lie about that, so I believe it. I mean, we had a montage of him experimenting with the stuff, so it's not exactly a huge leap to think that there may have been a chemistry side of it we didn't see.
 
Why would they have him SAY he designed the webbing himself if he didn't? He didn't say "web-shooters," he said "webbing." All we have to go on is what the movie shows or tells us, and the movie gave us no reason to think Peter would lie about that, so I believe it. I mean, we had a montage of him experimenting with the stuff, so it's not exactly a huge leap to think that there may have been a chemistry side of it we didn't see.

or he could say he developed it to throw people off the idea he buys it from Oscorp...The movie showed us Peter making the suit, the web shooters...why wouldn't they show us making the webbing???
 
Here's my review of the new Spider-Man flick. I give it a solid 7/10.

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From a personal standpoint, Mark Webb's reboot of Sony Corporation's most profitable franchise broke new ground: for the first time, I was unexcited about the prospect of a new Spider-Man movie. Given the high caliber of summer 2012's other superhero offerings - Joss Whedon's superlative Avengers adaptation and Christopher Nolan's swan song The Dark Knight Rises - as well as trailers depicting another re-telling of Spider-Man's origin, I was highly skeptical of this movie being anything other than a naked cash grab. My lack of interest was expressed most vividly when, offered the chance on opening day to see a new Spider-Man film or a film about male strippers, I chose the latter.


Having now seen the movie, I will admit that while my initial cynicism may be justified, The Amazing Spider-Man is better than it had any right to be. Though devoting half the film to ground already covered - and better - in Sam Raimi's original Spider-Man (2002), Webb has nevertheless produced an exciting Spider-Man adventure. If one drops all cynicism to simply sit back and enjoy what transpires on screen, TASM is a perfectly satisfying superhero tale. In the pantheon of long underwear characters adapted to film, it is closer to the upper echelon than the lower. As the Big Three go - Superman, Batman, Spider-Man - TASM is miles above the disappointing Superman Returns while not quite reaching the heights of Nolan's Batman films.

Praise for the movie has justifiably tended to focus on the performances of Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone. Each does an outstanding job with their character. In her role as the token love interest, Stone improves considerably on Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane Watson, although partial credit must go to the screenwriters, who render her Gwen Stacy a stronger and more independent character than Raimi's indecisive, narcissistic MJ. That said, there is no iconic moment to rival the kiss in the rain from the Raimi original.


Garfield's performance must be rated on a dualistic basis. As Spider-Man, he is far and away a more charismatic and amusing Spidey than Tobey Maguire's interpretation. Garfield's hero makes constant quips - something sorely lacking when Maguire wore the tights, and truer to the presentation of Spider-Man in the comics (where the shy Parker seems to become a different person under the mask, wittier and funnier).


As Peter Parker - specifically, as a high school-age Parker - Garfield comes up short of Maguire, who I could believe as an unpopular and awkward nerd. As has been pointed out by other reviewers, Garfield is simply too good-looking to buy as a social pariah or the hapless victim of bullies. Perhaps this is a reflection on the state of culture ten years after the original, when nerds like Mark Zuckerberg have become globe-straddling trendsetters. This Peter rides a skateboard, and his clothes and bedroom are festooned with "hip" cultural icons - The Clash, The Ramones, Johnny Cash. Garfield's Peter is perfectly likeable and there's nothing wrong with his acting; I simply couldn't buy him as a geek.

But there is a caveat, because this only refers to a single aspect of the character. Tobey Maguire played the "nerdy" Peter to perfection, but unfortunately never evolved beyond this. Throughout all three of Raimi's films, Maguire's Parker remained socially awkward to the point where it became irritating by the third movie. Where was the character development? In the comics, Peter eventually became more confident and cool, which was a nice transition to see. Unlike Maguire, Garfield has this aspect nailed down. While off-putting to me in the depiction of a teenage Parker, I believe this quality will accrue to Garfield's advantage as an older Peter when the inevitable sequel(s) see the light of day.

The choice of The Lizard as villain is a strange one for a movie that occasionally seems to be aping the "gritty, realistic" character of the Nolan Batman films, which leads us to a crucial point: the world of Spider-Man is in no sense "gritty" or "realistic". We're talking about a hero who is bitten by a spider and gains spider-like superpowers, fighting a giant lizard in the streets of Manhattan. It is literally impossible to depict such events in a "realistic" manner. If that's what the filmmakers were going for, they failed. But I don't think they were.


Ultimately, this is a perfectly serviceable popcorn flick. It likely won't be remembered as long as the 2002 film, and certainly won't have the same cultural impact, but plays well while you're watching it. Rhys Ifans does a fine job as Dr. Curt Connors, aka The Lizard. The special effects are far superior to Raimi's original films, helped along by the fact that whenever possible the filmmakers used real stunts for the webslinging rather than CGI.

There are some plot holes. Peter is driven to seek revenge on Uncle Ben's killer, yet the matter is effectively dropped after The Lizard becomes a real threat. The possibility that the plotline will be resolved in a sequel is an annoying side-effect of the blockbuster franchise era. But there is a more pernicious aspect to this plot thread. It may be argued that this movie sidesteps the entire theme of the Spider-Man story - "with great power comes great responsibility". In the comics and the first Raimi film, Spider-Man is directly responsible for causing Uncle Ben's death by failing to apprehend the killer when he had the chance, and channels that guilt and anger into his life as a crimefighter.

In Webb's interpretation, that responsibility is less direct; there is less guilt and more anger. Sure, Uncle Ben gets killed while looking for Peter, who left their home in anger. But by turning Peter's motivation for becoming Spider-Man into a mission primarily of vengeance - only to leave that plotline unresolved - Webb essentially defeats the point of devoting half the movie to re-telling the origin story.

In the end, my praise for this movie likely comes as a result of my expectations being so low. I was pleasantly surprised, but am looking forward to a sequel more now that the origin is out of the way.

Final note: there is absolutely no point in seeing this movie in 3-D. For long periods I forgot I was even wearing the glasses. Go 2-D if you can.
 
or he could say he developed it to throw people off the idea he buys it from Oscorp...The movie showed us Peter making the suit, the web shooters...why wouldn't they show us making the webbing???

They can't make the movie THAT long. Besides, the movie shows him building the suit and messing with the web shooter, Spidey fans should know that that scene can be taken as him making the webs.
Plus it never showed him buying it, and there is NO proof that he bought it from Oscorp in the movie.
 
They can't make the movie THAT long. Besides, the movie shows him building the suit and messing with the web shooter, Spidey fans should know that that scene can be taken as him making the webs.
Plus it never showed him buying it, and there is NO proof that he bought it from Oscorp in the movie.
Well, he definitely got the bio-cable from OsCorp, that's undeniable. You see him pulling it out of the OsCorp box right after watching the ad for it. I just heavily suspect that he modified it into what became his webbing.
 
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Why would they have him SAY he designed the webbing himself if he didn't? He didn't say "web-shooters," he said "webbing." All we have to go on is what the movie shows or tells us, and the movie gave us no reason to think Peter would lie about that, so I believe it. I mean, we had a montage of him experimenting with the stuff, so it's not exactly a huge leap to think that there may have been a chemistry side of it we didn't see.

Nothing that was shown supports that notion though.
 
or he could say he developed it to throw people off the idea he buys it from Oscorp...The movie showed us Peter making the suit, the web shooters...why wouldn't they show us making the webbing???
But the Bio-Cable is a known product, so if it was exactly the same, everyone would know it. There's a lot of blanks in the movie they could have shown but didn't, leaving things vague, probably for the best. This particular blank they filled in with a line of dialogue, which works perfectly fine for me.
 
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