The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread - Part 1

[hatebox]

Tragedy Yes but a loss of how much?
20M at the very most and ofcourse the Human Lives which are priceless

Pointless putting a number on it, such a thing can't be quantified.

Though, FWIW, a recent NRG poll suggested that 25% of moviegoers, even now, are 'still hesistant ' to return to theaters.

 

[Jexx]

I saw TDKR even after hearing the news about the shootings.

I'm not afraid until there are multiple accounts of this happening in theaters.

 

[Pedro Parque]

The irony is that The Amazing Spider-Man can end up making more profit than The Dark Knight Rises. What is amazing and well deserved, since The Amazing Spider-Man is a better film than TDKR and does the same for Spider-Man what Batman Begins did for Batman back then.

The Amazing Spider-Man's run as a reboot will end up as the highest grossing reboot of all time. And it's making more money than either of the Iron Man films. People here taking for granted foreign box office don't have a single clue how it works. TDKR will be far more close to TASM with its worldwide grossing than from The Avengers. What about that?

Nolan's fans should really stop pretending this isn't a worthy and impressive box office run for a reboot, and most of all stop hammering how Marc Webb didn't achieve what Christopher Nolan did with Batman. In my opinion, The Amazing Spider-Man is a better film than Batman Begins and TDKR, with the potential of a sequel better than TDK. I just hope that Marc Webb is the guy helming the sequel, because much of what makes The Amazing Spider-Man is owed to his direction. I'm craving to watch The Amazing Spider-Man and The Avengers again and again, after several repeated viewings. I can't say the same about TDKR, once was more than enough.

This is not the place to discuss this, but The Amazing Spider-Man overcame the critics that claimed that it was "too soon for a reboot" and it has a lot of good will and word of mouth among people that have seen the film. The sequel is bound to be stellar. What about TDKR? Will people keep blaming the shooting for its box office decline? Of course it has an effect, but what about those who have watched the film and truly disliked? What about those who have watched and are complaining about it on social networks claiming that it sucked? TDKR has far more problems to overcome than the effects of the shooting in my opinion. Weak word of mouth and its length are TDKR's true biggest enemies at the box office.

Well, back to The Amazing Spider-Man. Has anyone read Orson Scott Card's review? That's the most brilliant answer to the movie critics complaining about the reboot that I've ever read, and it's written by one of the best sci-fi writers out there.

​

How odd – the critics, who are supposed to have some kind of superior vision, have been almost universal in despising the new Spider-man movie.

It's as if they all were organically connected to the 2002 Sam Raimi-directed Spider-Man starring Tobey Maguire, and by bringing out, not a sequel, but a reboot of that movie, some vital organ had been ripped from their bodies.

I'm curious. What makes a movie "unnecessary"? That's how some critics are describing The Amazing Spider-Man, directed by Marc Webb ((500) Days of Summer) and starring Andrew Garfield (The Social Network).

In point of fact, all movies are unnecessary. Think of any movie ever made. If it didn't exist, we would get along just fine. We would never know that it was missing. (Yes, that includes Citizen Kane. Especially.)

If you doubt me, let me assure you that there are thousands of excellent scripts that have never been filmed, for reasons ranging from idiocy to cowardice. The fact that they remain unmade does not shatter our lives or prevent an occasional good movie from getting made.

One might make a case that all movies with the name "Dr. Dolittle" in the title were unnecessary.

But if a movie is very, very good, then who cares whether it was "necessary." All that matters is if, having seen it, we're glad we saw it and hope to see it again. Then it has made itself necessary.

And if these critics were not so biased by their own prejudice, they would realize that The Amazing Spider-Man has made the earlier Spidey movie unnecessary.

If you're not familiar with Orson Scott Card's work, check it out Ender's Game. One of the best sci-fi books that I've ever read, I'd love to see this turned to a huge movie franchise. Getting the seal of approval of one of my favorite sci-fi writers, let alone Dan Slott and Brian Michael Bendis championing the film like crazy are one of the most glowing signs of how much of a big winner The Amazing Spider-Man is.

 

[milesalpha]

If you're not familiar with Orson Scott Card's work, check it out Ender's Game. One of the best sci-fi books that I've ever read, I'd love to see this turned to a huge movie franchise. Getting the seal of approval of one of my favorite sci-fi writers, let alone Dan Slott and Brian Michael Bendis championing the film like crazy are one of the most glowing signs of how much of a big winner The Amazing Spider-Man is.

Heh, while, for me, Bendis approval is the kiss of death, can't stand his material.

Good news for you is that Ender's Game, starring Harrsion Ford, will hit theatres in 2013.

 

[JKKS085]

And Spider-man certainly wasnt an icon before SM1. In today's world Batman and MCU has taken a lot of the fan-base which was previously spider-man's.
So no,the fan-base is not as huge as it was in 2007

Your point being ?
The rest makes absolutely no sense. Spider-Man remains one of the best selling character in both comic-books and various merchandise (wich he already was even before the first Raimi movie came out BTW). And I don't see the argument there. Avengers and Batman being popular doesn't mean Spider-Man lost its fan base. If the movie was worth it, it would have reached 300 millions easily given the (remaining) popularity of the character (and the growing popularity of the genre). No matter how you want to put it.

Not in BB,No
WB shoved in the Rachel Dawes character

That's why I took TDK and not Begins as an example (hence the "creative freedom has to be earned"). I'm starting to wonder, do you have issues to understand what I'm writing ? But just to make things straight on that subject, they shoved Katie Holmes, not Rachel Dawes.

So according to you the Batman franchise can be seen as dying but the Spider man franchise had a 'Huge and already built fanbase' when both of them were coming of from disappointing movies.Ironic

You're seriously saying that Spider-Man 3 was the same kind of dissapointment B&R was ? You must be joking.
Spider-Man 3 earned 890 millions worldwide (336+554), B&R 238 (107+131). Audience and critiques opinions on the movies aside, that's 3 times more tickets sold for Spider-Man 3 than for B&R. 890 millions worldwide makes indeed for a huge and already built fanbase. I don't see how you can even deny that.

Apart from Batman & Robin,each of the Batman movie before BB did better than it and earned more with a lesser budget
Dont see where was the 'Potential prespective for growth'

Dude please, check your facts, or learn how to count because I'm getting a little tired of this. Batman Begins outgrossed all the previous Batman movies but Batman 89. When a movie makes more money than its 3 predecessors that's a perspective of growth. But maybe I should have my 3 yo make a chart for you so you can understand what I'm talking about ?

As for TASM,Sony cut out the untold part because it apparently had bad backlash from fan-boys and negative reaction from test audience,they might have done a good job cutting it

Well that's precisely the problem. They released a film not the way it was originally intended to be seen just so it can please fanboys and test audience. I for one like to trust the creative team in charge of a movie other than some advertising executive's take on someone else's work. Webb's work is obviously what works in TASM, Sony's rough cuts what makes it a mediocre/bland flick.

So by your logic Sony will stick their hands into the next movie aswell because they want as much money from it as possible??
Please tell me how will interfering with the movie earn them more money? Thats stupid logic to start with

That's how it works and you obviously have no clue what you're talking about. But if you're OK with movies that are primary conceived as marketing products, whatever works for you man but when I go see a movie, what I'm interested in is seeing some drirector/writer's vision. Not something that's meant and designed first and foremost to sell toys or work with the four quadrants.

So they earned 400M from Mechandise?

Where in HELL did I wrote that WB earned 400 millions from TDKR merchandise ??? Please dude just pull yourself together !
The only thing I said, is that by the end of 2012, WB would have earned enough from the merchandise department to cover the potential losses of TDKR's theatrical run (wich should be around 50/75 millions).

Breaking point is 650M dollars,TASM as probably earned more than that as it is so where is the loss you are talking about?

Breaking point would've been 650 if TASM was able to make 300 millions or more domestically. The again you quoted the Hollywood Economist so do the damn maths !!!

The higher up officials of sony wont go blurting out marketing budgets to every single person on their pay roll

I wasn't talking about marketing budget but about Sony's expectation for TASM's theatrical run !!! Please read carefully.

Now, really I don't know how to put this nicely so please just don't take it personnaly.

You CLEARLY NEED to educate yourself about how movies are made, how major studios work and how the box office works before you can even have a serious discussion on these matters.

That doesn't mean you can't like whatever you want or say whatever is in your mind but on these subjects you should do some serious homework beforehand.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Tragedy Yes but a loss of how much?
20M at the very most and ofcourse the Human Lives which are priceless

$20 million is quite a lot and is the difference for either making TDKR above Harry Potter or below.

Why couldnt they do it in 3D?

Because Nolan is better than that.

I seriously hate it when people bring in 3D to prove their point,Marvel spent money to film in 3D and even after that their budget is 30M lower than TDKR
They fully deserve the money from 3D
Had WB gone with 3D,the budget would have been even more bloated

Without the shooting and without 3D, TDKR would have beaten Avengers. And with 3D being involved, there would be no way for TDKR to be on top just because of that silly fad.

It wont be rebooted so soon,take my word for that
It will take Atleast more than 6 years

You got it, I will take your word on that and I'll bring this up when word of a reboot starts before the six years

If TASM 2 turns out to be awesome,TASM3 will have as much hype as TA2
Thats was my point

Ehhh....I believe the hype will belong to Avengers, but to each his own.

The irony is that The Amazing Spider-Man can end up making more profit than The Dark Knight Rises. What is amazing and well deserved, since The Amazing Spider-Man is a better film than TDKR and does the same for Spider-Man what Batman Begins did for Batman back then.

The Amazing Spider-Man's run as a reboot will end up as the highest grossing reboot of all time. And it's making more money than either of the Iron Man films. People here taking for granted foreign box office don't have a single clue how it works. TDKR will be far more close to TASM with its worldwide grossing than from The Avengers. What about that?

Nolan's fans should really stop pretending this isn't a worthy and impressive box office run for a reboot, and most of all stop hammering how Marc Webb didn't achieve what Christopher Nolan did with Batman. In my opinion, The Amazing Spider-Man is a better film than Batman Begins and TDKR, with the potential of a sequel better than TDK. I just hope that Marc Webb is the guy helming the sequel, because much of what makes The Amazing Spider-Man is owed to his direction. I'm craving to watch The Amazing Spider-Man and The Avengers again and again, after several repeated viewings. I can't say the same about TDKR, once was more than enough.

This is not the place to discuss this, but The Amazing Spider-Man overcame the critics that claimed that it was "too soon for a reboot" and it has a lot of good will and word of mouth among people that have seen the film. The sequel is bound to be stellar. What about TDKR? Will people keep blaming the shooting for its box office decline? Of course it has an effect, but what about those who have watched the film and truly disliked? What about those who have watched and are complaining about it on social networks claiming that it sucked? TDKR has far more problems to overcome than the effects of the shooting in my opinion. Weak word of mouth and its length are TDKR's true biggest enemies at the box office.

Well, back to The Amazing Spider-Man. Has anyone read Orson Scott Card's review? That's the most brilliant answer to the movie critics complaining about the reboot that I've ever read, and it's written by one of the best sci-fi writers out there.

​

If you're not familiar with Orson Scott Card's work, check it out Ender's Game. One of the best sci-fi books that I've ever read, I'd love to see this turned to a huge movie franchise. Getting the seal of approval of one of my favorite sci-fi writers, let alone Dan Slott and Brian Michael Bendis championing the film like crazy are one of the most glowing signs of how much of a big winner The Amazing Spider-Man is.

Weak word of mouth? The word of mouth is BETTER than TAS-M. I don't know how you got that my friend.

 

[Jick]

Even though Nolan didn't use 3D, he used IMAX cameras. Isn't that expensive, too? To film scenes in that format?

 

[milesalpha]

Dude please, check your facts, or learn how to count because I'm getting a little tired of this. Batman Begins outgrossed all the previous Batman movies but Batman 89. When a movie makes more money than its 3 predecessors that's a perspective of growth. But maybe I should have my 3 yo make a chart for you so you can understant what I'm talking about ?

W.

Batman 497 million
Batman Returns 308 million
Batman Forever 332 million
Batman and Robin 183 million
Batman Begins 251 million

Domestic box office totals adjusted for inflation to 2012.

 

[milesalpha]

And just to tilt this back toward TAS a bit. Wednesday total comes in at -27.6% for 1.47 million and a scary 393 per screen average. The best decline for the day was Magic Mike at 14.4%, it's a sick country.

 

[JKKS085]

Batman 497 million
Batman Returns 308 million
Batman Forever 332 million
Batman and Robin 183 million
Batman Begins 251 million

Domestic box office totals adjusted for inflation to 2012.

I was talking about unadjusted WW totals wich is:
1- Batman: 411 (251+160)
2- Batman Begins: 372 (205+167)
3- Batman Forever: 336 (184+152)
4- Batman Returns: 266 (162+104)
5- Batman & Robin: 238 (107+131)

Sure you can adjust grosses but that just makes the comparision even harsher between TASM and the rest of the Raimi trilogy:

1- Spider-Man: 1,118 (550+568)
2- Spider-Man 3: 1,023 (386+637)
3- Spider-Man 2: 996 (476+520)

So either way, WW or domestic totals, adjusted or unadjusted gross the idea is that the dynamic is totally different for TASM now than it was for Batman Begins back in 2005.

 

[milesalpha]

I was talking about unadjusted WW totals wich is:
1- Batman: 411 (251+160)
2- Batman Begins: 372 (205+167)
3- Batman Forever: 336 (184+152)
4- Batman Returns: 266 (162+104)
5- Batman & Robin: 238 (107+131)

Sure you can adjust grosses but that just makes the comparision even harsher between TASM and the rest of the Raimi trilogy:

1- Spider-Man: 1,118 (550+568)
2- Spider-Man 3: 1,023 (386+637)
3- Spider-Man 2: 996 (476+520)

So either way, WW or domestic totals, adjusted or unadjusted gross the idea is that the dynamic is totally different for TASM now than it was for Batman Begins back in 2005.

Using raw WW numbers is really worthless, it would be like comparing the cost of a 1990 car and a 2012 car using only the sticker price of the time.

Comparing TAS to the original Spidermans is foolish on any level in my book. SM1 was an event, ground breaking, the first non-DC hero on screen. That Spiderman challenged Superman for recognizability in various media. The new Spiderman has several significant changes to the original story, a chancy choice in my book, and one which may have confused some of the audience and limited it. It comes into a market almost saturated with comic book films (what is it, 4 so far this year?), so it does not enjoy the unique position of the Raimi films (SM1 and MIB2 in 2002, SM2 only in 2004, SM 3 and The Transformers in 2007). It's numbers are a bit trickier to track as well, due to that Monday opening.

Most predictions had it falling in the 200-300 million range in the domestic market and it has hit that target square in the middle. No one at Sony is jumping for joy but they are all glad they are not sitting on Green Lantern either. The fact that they pulled back on the number of theatres after week 2 tells us that Sony doesn't think any long legs are there and are at least satisfied enough to continue planning a sequel, alhtough it might look somewhat different.

 

[©KAW]

They have no choice but to make a sequel, so the whole box office numbers debate is moot. They have no choice in giving it a big budget either, unless Spider-Man will be taking a cab everywhere he goes. Personally, I'd love to see a smaller budget and having Electro or Shocker as the main villain. But Sony ain't making a smaller budget Spider-Man, you can forget that.

 

[chaseter]

This page has a lot of crazy on it.

 

[chaseter]

The irony is that The Amazing Spider-Man can end up making more profit than The Dark Knight Rises. What is amazing and well deserved, since The Amazing Spider-Man is a better film than TDKR and does the same for Spider-Man what Batman Begins did for Batman back then.

The irony is that you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[JKKS085]

Using raw WW numbers is really worthless, it would be like comparing the cost of a 1990 car and a 2012 car using only the sticker price of the time.

We can debate hours on the opportunity of adjusting BO numbers in an era that has piracy and movies out on DVD/BR/VOD barely 4 months after their theatrical release (sometimes/somewhere even sooner). The point is that even if you adjust those numbers, and only take the domestic gross in account, TASM's dynamic is nothing like BB's.

SM1 was an event, ground breaking, the first non-DC hero on screen.

What about X-Men and Blade ?

It comes into a market almost saturated with comic book films

Not by far, it comes in a market that grows exponentially. 1.4 billions last year for mainstream cbm and 3 billions so far this year (and the final number should be around 3.8, 3.9 billion maybe even 4). Granted there's more competition but nothing that should prevent a Spider-Man movie of getting 300 millions domestically (especially with 3D showings).

Most predictions had it falling in the 200-300 million range in the domestic market and it has hit that target square in the middle.

The 230 production budget actually makes a huge difference between a movie that would get 300 millions and would almost be profit-making out of it's theatrical run and one that would make 200 and therefore would have to rely on it's home video and side-revenues to break-even.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Pedro, TASM has no shot at making more profit than TDKR does. That isn't even a matter of conjecture, it is just wrong. Domestically, TDKR almost made over half of what TASM will make domestically in 3 days. It won't make the WW gross TDKR will, and they didn't cost all that differently to make. In no realm will TASM make more than TDKR.

 

[©KAW]

Pedro has been drinking.

Me. I'm already drunk.

 

[Pedro Parque]

Heh, while, for me, Bendis approval is the kiss of death, can't stand his material.

Good news for you is that Ender's Game, starring Harrsion Ford, will hit theatres in 2013.

Well if it helps, I sort of agree with you about Bendis. Besides Ultimate Spider-Man, I pretty much despise every other work of him. Dan Slott in other hand is a genius. I want Marc Webb to get together with him for inspiration for the sequel. Dan must be the biggest Spider-Fan on Earth, and it helps that he can write Spider-Man like no one in the business right now.

Weak word of mouth? The word of mouth is BETTER than TAS-M. I don't know how you got that my friend.

The irony is that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Said the two Nolan's resident loonies of the Spider-Man boards.

Yes I've been lurking.

Pedro, TASM has no shot at making more profit than TDKR does. That isn't even a matter of conjecture, it is just wrong. Domestically, TDKR almost made over half of what TASM will make domestically in 3 days. It won't make the WW gross TDKR will, and they didn't cost all that differently to make. In no realm will TASM make more than TDKR.

Au contraire, mon ami and fellow spider-fan, Spider-Fan. In fact, marketing costs can lead The Dark Knight Rises having to struggle to break even, while The Amazing Spider-Man is close to start making profit.

The Dark Knight Rises has been affected highly by the Colorado Shooting at the box office, but that doesn't make its word of mouth sounding any better when we have so many people complaining about the film online and in real life. Calling the reception mixed is a compliment, and let's not forget that beyond the estimated $250m budget, it's been reported that TDKR marketing costs elevate its to $400m. In the same context, TASM budget + marketings costs are equal to $330m.

Yes, what happened in Colorado was a tragedy, but TDKR is in a freefall. I wouldn't be surprised if TDKR isn't able to reach $400m domestically, and with China not releasing the film there, it might struggle to get beyond $500m from foreign markets as well. People are taking in consideration only the shooting for TDKR's box office decline, but I think it goes far more deeper than that. TDKR is simply not as well received as TDK, regardless how you spin this, and it's been this way since the night of the shooting, when twitter was on fire with people saying that the film sucked. That was before anyone knowing about the shooting, and this mixed reaction has followed the film ever since.

So while I agree with you about TDKR probably getting more profit than TASM, it will be barely, or maybe my "crazy" TASM prediction will come true. Why? Yes TDKR will have the upperhand in the domestic box office. But just like I thought people were overpredicting TDKR domestically, I think the same will be said about TDKR in the foreign markets - mostly because of bad word of mouth and the film's length. At the same point, TASM had scored a far better box office profit in the foreign markets than TDKR, and TASM has the advantage of been released in China that TDKR doesn't. In the end, the worldwide box office of TASM can be bigger than TDKR, or way more close to each other than The Avengers, for example. I'm just not feeling the hype for this film at all, and I think it'll get worse as the weeks go by.

And I think TASM has a strong case with my claim that enjoys a far better word of mouth than TDKR. I've seen this all before - what is going on with TDKR - it's basically Spider-Man 3 and people in denial for people not enjoying it as much as it was supposed to be enjoyed by others. It's the "3rd part in a trilogy" curse all over again. I remember a lot of people trying to defend the film and a lot of Spider-Man regulars disappointed back then, just like it happened with TDKR on the other board this weekend/week. Make no mistake, the general audience isn't dumb. Don't think that they can be fooled and that there isn't people out there trashing this film hard. We don't need to look too far to realize that.

 

[milesalpha]

We can debate hours on the opportunity of adjusting BO numbers in an era that has piracy and movies out on DVD/BR/VOD barely 4 months after their theatrical release (sometimes/somewhere even sooner). The point is that even if you adjust those numbers, and only take the domestic gross in account, TASM's dynamic is nothing like BB's.


What about X-Men and Blade ?

Not by far, it comes in a market that grows exponentially. 1.4 billions last year for mainstream cbm and 3 billions so far this year (and the final number should be around 3.8, 3.9 billion maybe even 4). Granted there's more competition but nothing that should prevent a Spider-Man movie of getting 300 millions domestically (especially with 3D showings).


The 230 production budget actually makes a huge difference between a movie that would get 300 millions and would almost be profit-making out of it's theatrical run and one that would make 200 and therefore would have to rely on it's home video and side-revenues to break-even.

You might define what you mean by dynamic, I have no idea what you are referring to. Most movies have been out in the 4-6 month range for 20 years, I don't see much change there. Piracy has existed by day one, whole video stores were based on dupes in the early 80s, there was a reason they invented the less than successful macrovison.

You're right, forgot about that series, but since they did not play in the same year as the Spidey series, it doesn't change much. I don't count Blade myself, it's a vampire movie to me, much like I don't count Elektra or Catwoman, I forgive the half assed attempts as early education.

The market is growing strictly due to pricing though, actual attendance is down. How long the market can sustain growth through price only is questionable.

Hmm so many movies fit the desciption of a plus 200 million budget combined with less than stellar BO performance. Right off the top of my head there is John Carter, MIB2 and Battleship for this year alone. Budget does not in any way guarantee box office. It is rather common for the post box office sales to account for a majority of the profit.

My initial point was about the accuracy of the statement that Batman Begins was more successful than Batman 1-3. You are venturing into territory that I haven't argued. TAS has solid box office, that's it. Any Spiderman movie likely would have made the same simply because of Spiderman, which means the new version really hasn't captured the imagination of the general audience. Is it the movie? The mediocre marketing campaign? The competition? All of the Above (this is the one I go with, after seeing it I would really like to now what the first cut looked like). However, considering Sony's treatment of the film pre-release, and their conservative yet accurate prediction, I think this is about what they expected.

 

[milesalpha]

An interesting website for anyone who wants to play this like a game. I only did a quick reading of the rules but it seems you treat movies like stock, based on what you feel their first, second, third and fourth (final) box office will be. Spidey is currently trading at 236m for its final tally (Highest trade was 282, lowest 224), and DKR is at 412 (high 497, low 329). Thought if might be interesting for some.

http://www.hsx.com/security/view/SPID4

 

[Anno_Domini]

Pedro, TASM has no shot at making more profit than TDKR does. That isn't even a matter of conjecture, it is just wrong. Domestically, TDKR almost made over half of what TASM will make domestically in 3 days. It won't make the WW gross TDKR will, and they didn't cost all that differently to make. In no realm will TASM make more than TDKR.

Pedro has been drinking.

Me. I'm already drunk.

Pedro could get me to drink. And I don't drink.

Said the two Nolan's resident loonies of the Spider-Man boards.

Yes I've been lurking.

Obviously not a very successful lurker as I'm not really a "Nolan resident loony". Just a realist.

After three weeks, TAS-M has $618,198,265; after six days TDKR has $337,108,988.

 

[milesalpha]

And I think TASM has a strong case with my claim that enjoys a far better word of mouth than TDKR. I've seen this all before - what is going on with TDKR - it's basically Spider-Man 3 and people in denial for people not enjoying it as much as it was supposed to be enjoyed by others. It's the "3rd part in a trilogy" curse all over again. I remember a lot of people trying to defend the film and a lot of Spider-Man regulars disappointed back then, just like it happened with TDKR on the other board this weekend/week. Make no mistake, the general audience isn't dumb. Don't think that they can be fooled and that there isn't people out there trashing this film hard. We don't need to look too far to realize that.

Not sure how you would possibly measure this, but it is certainly not being reflected at the box office. My own general impression is there is a sense of disappointment with Batman but still positive overall, while TAS has a pretty divided house between love and hate. A general review of the IMDB user reviews supports this.

 

[Pedro Parque]

Pedro could get me to drink. And I don't drink.



Obviously not a very successful lurker as I'm not really a "Nolan resident loony". Just a realist.

After three weeks, TAS-M has $618,198,265; after six days TDKR has $337,108,988.

After six days TASM had more than 200m from the foreign markets. After the same period, TDKR has $125m. It will be an interesting battle in the foreign markets. By the way, just so you know, TASM had $341.2m after its first six days.

As for proving who has better WOM, I guess we will have to wait for the end of their run at the box office and see how well TASM 2 goes.

 

[Anno_Domini]

After six days TASM had more than 200m from the foreign markets. After the same period, TDKR has $125m. It will be an interesting battle in the foreign markets. By the way, just so you know, TASM had $341.2m after its first six days.

As for proving who has better WOM, I guess we will have to wait for the end of their run at the box office and see how well TASM 2 goes.

You gotta look at how that was a holiday as well for TAS-M, and to make more than half of its total, so far, from only that holiday isn't a sign that TAS-M is doing so great, imo.

Plus, I do agree...it would be best to know about the word of mouth at the end of each film's run, but so far, it's been TDKR > TAS-M.

 

[Web face]

off topic from the whole TDKR vs. TASM discussion, but isn't TASM opening in August for some countries?