Official Spider-Man 3 Box Office Thread - Predictions and Forecasts

[Carp Man]

Well considering I did not see BB. Still have not seen it. Have no desire or intention of seeing it, I can't comment on whether it was better. But that does not mean a darn, if the public liked it. 330 milion dollars worth of rears in the seats says it all. And mine was 1, 9 times. I'm a Marvel fan thru, and thru, and a FF fan in the extreme.

 

[Stupify_me]

Well considering I did not see BB. Still have not seen it. Have no desire or intention of seeing it, I can't comment on whether it was better. But that does not mean a darn, if the public liked it. 330 milion dollars worth of rears in the seats says it all.

Lol like I said before great box office doesn't mean great movie. It's that simple and always will be.

It's to bad about BB it was a great movie sorry you didn't watch it. Even non batman fans love it. Oh well

Don't get me wrong FF was entertaining but nothing special and didn't have a very strong story. FF2 looks awesome though and lets hope they do Silver Surfer right and don't ruin the complex character.

 

[Kmack]

If Fox didn't **** up the Silver Surfer, they just wouldn't be Fox now would they?

*still can't believe they screwed up one of the best comic book villians of all time*

 

[Docker2.0]

How did they screw up the Surfer?

 

[Stupify_me]

If Fox didn't **** up the Silver Surfer, they just wouldn't be Fox now would they?

*still can't believe they screwed up one of the best comic book villians of all time*

Meh I don't have a hatred of fox studios screw with movies it happens always has I don't think fox is anymore guilty than any other studio. Anyway we should probably get back on topic before the topic Nazi's come in here and start B**chin

 

[Kargo Warrior]

First of all Fantastic 4 didnt make more than Batman WW...it had 40 millions less

Second of all,to Stupify millions of people love Harry Potter,adults and kids alike and if you dont like it it doesnt mean it's crappy.....the books are bestsellers,the movies are great they are going to make a park inspired by HP ...you can not be more subjective in this case

And third,quality is overated in terms of money...for example,Before Sunrise is probably one of the best romantic movies ever and it made 5 millions at the boxoffice and Titanic with it's cliches made 2 billions so i think that explains it all...

People dont care about acting or genuine story or dialog or themes...that's why most movies that are story driven or most dramas make very little money....all they care is some efects some cool character and even better if there is some romance between the lead actors...i mean Ghost Rider (sorry to it's fans) is as crappy as a movie can get...bad acting,bad story,mediocre efects,bad pacing and it make like 230-240 millions...

It's the same way with music...look at the charts there is little to no quality music...the best bands or musicians quality wise like Nas,Wilco,Dream Theater and so on sell 400-500.000 copies or less...and the Britney's sell millions even though the lyrics are as shallow as Casper,the music(meaning the instrumental part) sounds like some 5 year old wrote them and they advertise the music by making erotic videos...i mean music=art,now go and listen to some 50 Cent song and tell me that has anything to do with art.

 

[dodus]

..the best bands or musicians quality wise like Nas,Wilco,Dream Theater

Interesting combo!

 

[Kargo Warrior]

Well that's the reason i mentioned them like that,their styles are nothing alike but the music they make is top quality regardless,each in it's own way

 

[Carp Man]

June 02, 2007

EXCLUSIVE EARLY SATURDAY ESTIMATES: 'Pirates' with a solid $20.5M; 'Shrek' w/$12.3M and may hit $30M for the weekend; 'Knocked Up' w/$11M; 'Mr. Brooks' w/$4M

by Steve Mason

SATURDAY PM – Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End (Buena Vista) has added an estimated $20.5M in Saturday business, which is enough to put Captain Jack’s latest voyage above the $200M mark. It now looks as though Pirates will sail to a revised 3-day estimate of $47M. That’s an approximate 60% drop from last weekend’s Friday thru Sunday of $115M, but, if the number holds, it’ll be the all-time 16th-best second weekend.

Shrek the Third (Dreamworks/Paramount) enjoyed a better-then-expected kiddie bounce on Saturday grabbing an estimated $12.3M. That means that Shrek will likely finish the weekend at #2 with an estimated $30M. Universal’s new release Knocked Up grabbed another $11M, and the revised 3-day for the Judd Apatow comedy is $28.5M. Mr. Brooks (MGM) enjoyed a $4M Saturday and that should translate to a $9.6M weekend good for 4th. Meanwhile, family soccer flick Gracie (Picturehouse) managed only $540,000, and it’s revised 3-day is now an estimated 1.4M

EXCLUSIVE FANTASY MOGULS EARLY SATURDAY ESTIMATES
1. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End (Buena Vista) - $20.5M [$207.3M cume]
2. Shrek the Third (Dreamworks/Paramount) - $12.3M [$247.6M cume]
2. Knocked Up (Universal) - $11M [$20.8M cume]
4. Mr. Brooks (MGM) - $4M [$7M cume]
5. Spider-Man 3 (Sony) - $3.3M [$316M cume]


REVISED 3-DAY ESTIMATES
1. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End (Buena Vista) - $47M [$220.3M cume]
2. Shrek the Third (Dreamworks/Paramount) - $30M [$257.9M cume]
3. Knocked Up (Universal) - $28.5M [$28.5M cume]
4. Mr. Brooks (MGM) - $9.6M [$9.6M cume]
5. Spider-Man 3 (Sony) - $7.4M [$318.1M cume]


http://news.fantasymoguls.com/originalcontent/2007/06/exclusive_early_1.html

 

[GL's Light]

Transformers WILL NOT make it to 300M and for Potter to hit 300M it would take something amazing and something amazing involving Harry Potter has yet to be seen from this crappy book/movie franchise.

Potter 1 made $ 317.575 mil domestic and Potter 4 made $ 290.013 mil, so Potter 5's chances at $ 300 mil aren't too remote.

 

[Stupify_me]

Potter 1 made $ 317.575 mil domestic and Potter 4 made $ 290.013 mil, so Potter 5's chances at $ 300 mil aren't too remote.

It's coming off a less successful movie and it has Transformers very close to it I think the two of them are going to hurt each other a little bit. Given that the last movie couldn't make 300M I don't this one will especially with it's competition being so close.

 

[spider-neil]

I say potter has a good chance of hitting 300M purely because of the new book.

I have to say I think the potter movies have been terrible (with the expection of the second one and only then because of the supporting cast)

 

[Stupify_me]

I say potter has a good chance of hitting 300M purely because of the new book.

I have to say I think the potter movies have been terrible (with the expection of the second one and only then because of the supporting cast)

I simply don't see it. Don't get me wrong I think it will be a success It will certainly be in the mid to high 200M's like anywhere from 240-290 those being the most and least. I just don't think it is very possible for it to hit 300M. 275M seems more likely to me.

 

[spider-neil]

getting back to the subject of spidey with SM4 it's essential that the quality (story/plot) is back on track to the level of 1 and 2 because as you are seeing with POTC you can only burn the audience once (or three times if you are lucas)

I think its like this; you watch a movie and if its terrible but you like the previous movie you are on the fence whether you want to watch the next sequel if enough people tell you the new sequel is rubbish you don't bother to watch it, and if enough people tell you its really good you go to watch it because of your memories of the good movies.

examples

matrix
great first movie
second movie (terrible) - massive hit (because people remember the first one)
third movie (terrible) - okay numbers (possibly hit because of WOM)

POTC
great first movie
second movie (terrible) - massive hit (because people remember the first one)
third movie (terrible) - okay numbers (possibly hit because of WOM)

imho if spidey 4 does't achieve critical accliam from plublic and press alike it will suffer and wont achieve any thing like the previous three movies

 

[Stupify_me]

getting back to the subject of spidey with SM4 it's essential that the quality (story/plot) is back on track to the level of 1 and 2 because as you are seeing with POTC you can only burn the audience once (or three times if you are lucas)

I think its like this; you watch a movie and if its terrible but you like the previous movie you are on the fence whether you want to watch the next sequel if enough people tell you the new sequel is rubbish you don't bother to watch it, and if enough people tell you its really good you go to watch it because of your memories of the good movies.

examples

matrix
great first movie
second movie (terrible) - massive hit (because people remember the first one)
third movie (terrible) - okay numbers (possibly hit because of WOM)

POTC
great first movie
second movie (terrible) - massive hit (because people remember the first one)
third movie (terrible) - okay numbers (possibly hit because of WOM)

imho if spidey 4 does't achieve critical accliam from plublic and press alike it will suffer and wont achieve any thing like the previous three movies

I pretty much agree with all of this except I thought SM3 was good and I thought the first Matrix and POTC were not.

 

[spider-neil]

I simply don't see it. Don't get me wrong I think it will be a success It will certainly be in the mid to high 200M's like anywhere from 240-290 those being the most and least. I just don't think it is very possible for it to hit 300M. 275M seems more likely to me.

tough one to call but I think the potter fans (which I sadly confess to being one of) will be pretty hypes after reading the book and will want to devour all things potter. what comes out first? if the movie comes out before the book then you're probably right although if the book comes out before the movie it will likely give the movie a shot in the arm for a few weeks.

 

[spider-neil]

I pretty much agree with all of this except I thought SM3 was good and I thought the first Matrix and POTC were not.

I was entertained by SM3 but didn't leave the cinema on a high like the previous two.

I'm worried about the spidey francise now look at the dc big two

superman
S1 - great first movie
S2 - great sequel more action
S3 - comedy added
S4 - FARSE!

batman
B1 - great first movie
B2 - great sequel more action
B3 - comedy added
B4 - FARSE!

spider-man
SM1 - great first movie
SM2 - great sequel more action
SM3 - comedy added
SM4 - GULP!!!

 

[Stupify_me]

tough one to call but I think the potter fans (which I sadly confess to being one of) will be pretty hypes after reading the book and will want to devour all things potter. what comes out first? if the movie comes out before the book then you're probably right although if the book comes out before the movie it will likely give the movie a shot in the arm for a few weeks.

The pluses for the movie are that it does have a pretty big follow of fans and the director for this installment is very talented. My concern about him is that even though this potter is suppose to be darker he may bring a bit to much darkness to it given that this movie mostly appeals to children.

That's about it for positive (In my opinion of course) the negatives are the same barely mediocre acting, it's still Harry Potter, it's following in a franchise that has started a down hill momentum in the box office for the franchise, and it comes out the week after transformers. Transformers won't be that big of a hit for the year but it will be big enough to take away from the Potter movie at least a little bit and that's all it needs to keep it away from 300M

 

[Stupify_me]

I was entertained by SM3 but didn't leave the cinema on a high like the previous two.

I'm worried about the spidey francise now look at the dc big two

superman
S1 - great first movie
S2 - great sequel more action
S3 - comedy added
S4 - FARSE!

batman
B1 - great first movie
B2 - great sequel more action
B3 - comedy added
B4 - FARSE!

spider-man
SM1 - great first movie
SM2 - great sequel more action
SM3 - comedy added
SM4 - GULP!!!

I never really cared for the superman franchise at all but I do get what your saying even though I didn't like any of the Christopher Reeves movies I did think the last one was even worse than the others. As far as Batman goes even though I am a huge Batman fan I think it was more like this.

B1 Decent
B2 Very dull and poor quality
B3 OK better than the first two but still not great
B4 Horrible trash

BB amazing

 

[spider-neil]

I never really cared for the superman franchise at all but I do get what your saying even though I didn't like any of the Christopher Reeves movies I did think the last one was even worse than the others. As far as Batman goes even though I am a huge Batman fan I think it was more like this.

B1 Decent
B2 Very dull and poor quality
B3 OK better than the first two but still not great
B4 Horrible trash

BB amazing

I agree with every word of that, batman was 'ok' B2 was a borefest, hated B3 and the less said about B&R the better.

BB is ace but the action (car chase aside was terrible imho, couldn't make any of it out)

basically SM4 needs to be amazing (pun intended ) I don't think it will survive being poor or even average.

 

[spider-neil]

The pluses for the movie are that it does have a pretty big follow of fans and the director for this installment is very talented. My concern about him is that even though this potter is suppose to be darker he may bring a bit to much darkness to it given that this movie mostly appeals to children.

That's about it for positive (In my opinion of course) the negatives are the same barely mediocre acting, it's still Harry Potter, it's following in a franchise that has started a down hill momentum in the box office for the franchise, and it comes out the week after transformers. Transformers won't be that big of a hit for the year but it will be big enough to take away from the Potter movie at least a little bit and that's all it needs to keep it away from 300M

only a week separates potter from TM? didn't know that
OUCH!
for potter to achieve 300 it will need to CRUSH the transformers which imho is possible if TM get trashed by the critics (potter is critic proof)

 

[Stupify_me]

I agree with every word of that, batman was 'ok' B2 was a borefest, hated B3 and the less said about B&R the better.

BB is ace but the action (car chase aside was terrible imho, couldn't make any of it out)

basically SM4 needs to be amazing (pun intended ) I don't think it will survive being poor or even average.

I loved MOST of the action in BB I love the way they did the fight scenes but I agree that the car chase was stupid. Batman wouldn't of been that reckless and the entire scene really wasn't needed.

SM4 I think Average would work for SM4 (Depending on the budget) but I agree that if it's poor it's screwed. If they aim for the same or a slightly lower budget I think Average would still be a massive success but I would prefer amazing Spiderman (Pun intended here as well). I think if Raimi leaves it will be dangerous to Spiderman and could really hurt the quality of the next film.

 

[Stupify_me]

only a week separates potter from TM? didn't know that
OUCH!
for potter to achieve 300 it will need to CRUSH the transformers which imho is possible if TM get trashed by the critics (potter is critic proof)

I don't think Potter is crttic proof at all not with the string of movies it has had. Ok i'll drop my bias on the films and say that the first one was good ( In the fans perspective.) but alot of hardcore fans even agree that it has been going down hill and I think at this point there are people who are on the fence. With enough bad reviews those people could fall off the fence.

But yea TM is only one week away from Potter it comes out the week before Potter does. I don't think TM will be the huge success alot of others think it will be but I still think it could hurt Potter. Plus the Rat Movie, Evan Almighty, Fantastic Four, and the new Die Hard will all still be in theaters. Fantastic Four and Evan will be ending their runs shortly after so they will do very little but the Rat movie and Die hard will still be fairly recent.

 

[spider-neil]

I loved MOST of the action in BB I love the way they did the fight scenes but I agree that the car chase was stupid. Batman wouldn't of been that reckless and the entire scene really wasn't needed.

SM4 I think Average would work for SM4 (Depending on the budget) but I agree that if it's poor it's screwed. If they aim for the same or a slightly lower budget I think Average would still be a massive success but I would prefer amazing Spiderman (Pun intended here as well). I think if Raimi leaves it will be dangerous to Spiderman and could really hurt the quality of the next film.

if sony have any sense they will leave him to tell the lizard story.
there will almost certainly be pressure on sam to include more villians (mechandising/games) but sam has to be strong and INSIST lizard is the only villian for the movie.

after lizard is made then sony can screw up spidey for all I care because all the villians I wanted to see would have been made.

 

[Stupify_me]

if sony have any sense they will leave him to tell the lizard story.
there will almost certainly be pressure on sam to include more villians (mechandising/games) but sam has to be strong and INSIST lizard is the only villian for the movie.

after lizard is made then sony can screw up spidey for all I care because all the villians I wanted to see would have been made.

Sony doesn't want to get rid of him he is considering leaving because basically he is being BEGGED to do The Hobbit.

I don't want it to be just the lizzard I want a minor very minnor secondary villian. Like the Camilian or Shocker maybe even the Scorpion. Lets face it none of those three can carry a movie on their own and need to be thrown in. Plus I just really don't like the single villian format unless the movie isn't going to be anywhere near the length of the other ones.