OFFICIAL: Theatrical Trailer Thread

[Lightning Strykez!]

LS, I'm going to start a "Put Sue in sexy nerd glasses for the whole of FF3" club.
Would you like to be a charter member?

"I'm not only a client, I'm also the President."

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[Doctor of Doom]

I gotta say, it wouldn't have mattered who wrote the dialogue for Doom, as long as JMc is speaking them (regardless of how good you think he looks!) they would just be delivered in that same un-commanding, no-trace-of-a-foreign-accent, "marco polo" voice he had in the first film.
Hear him saying some of his better lines from the first film:
"Marco...polo" (as already mentioned)
"I'm sorry, (forget guy's name),...but I'm not going anywhere."
"This...is gonna be FUN."
Now imagine that voice saying classic Doom dialogue from the comics. It's laughable! Even if they had Julian doing the physical acting for Doom, they shoulda pulled a Darth Vader and had someone like John Rhys Davis do the voice.

I mostly agree but to be fair, the FF2 book references his voice changing a lot near the end so fingers crossed...

 

[Kelly]

well I think what is happening is doom said something about the surfers mom, and then the surfer got mad and tossed a cosmic snowball at him (but it was one of those snowballs that have ice in the center) blasting doom to atoms, thats what cosmic snowballs with ice at the center can do ;-)

HEEEEEEEY, use spoiler tags, you are giving away toooooooo much from the novel.......

 

[50yroldfffan]

HEEEEEEEY, use spoiler tags, you are giving away toooooooo much from the novel.......

sorry I'll try to do better ha ha

 

[The Apatow Crew]

LS, I'm going to start a "Put Sue in sexy nerd glasses for the whole of FF3" club.
Would you like to be a charter member?

Man, she looks great in that scene. Yeah, yeah, the Silver Surfer meeting Doom on the lip of a giant chasm of his creation and then blowing him away with the Power Cosmic is O.K. I guess.... but Jessica Alba as a hot scientist, that's FANTASTIC.

I'm all for that. I'll jon. Jessica is :heart:

 

[invisibeav]

Just got back from the midnight Spidey showing. I'm so glad that my first exposure to the trailer is on the big screen. I really enjoyed what we've been shown. To me, it went over a little too quick, but part of the reason might be the fact that I was suppressing my fangirl squeal throughout the whole thing. I thought the action scenes look intense and the SFX a lot more promising than the first film (which I liked).

 

[Iron Maiden]

I gotta say, it wouldn't have mattered who wrote the dialogue for Doom, as long as JMc is speaking them (regardless of how good you think he looks!) they would just be delivered in that same un-commanding, no-trace-of-a-foreign-accent, "marco polo" voice he had in the first film.
Hear him saying some of his better lines from the first film:
"Marco...polo" (as already mentioned)
"I'm sorry, (forget guy's name),...but I'm not going anywhere."
"This...is gonna be FUN."
Now imagine that voice saying classic Doom dialogue from the comics. It's laughable! Even if they had Julian doing the physical acting for Doom, they shoulda pulled a Darth Vader and had someone like John Rhys Davis do the voice.

I have to disagree... I think it was the dialogue and not the voice that was the problem. I don't think even James Earl Jones could have make much of a "This is going to be FUN." I have to go back to Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector. He didn't need a deep voice like Jones' to come across as a frighteningly intelligent, sociopathic killer. Having read the book, one thing that has me concerned is that Doom really doesn't have that much dialogue, unless they've kept some stuff out.

 

[Malus]

So who else caught the trailer at a midnight showing? What kind of response did it get?

Over on the Spidey 3 spoilers board, the fan reviews (of Spidey 3) are shockingly mixed; leaning towards the negative, actually.
And Rotten Tomatoes has it at 64%. Sheesh!

 

[Carp Man]

Over on the Spidey 3 spoilers board, the fan reviews (of Spidey 3) are shockingly mixed; leaning towards the negative, actually.
And Rotten Tomatoes has it at 64%. Sheesh!

Spidey still swings in Spider-Man 3, but man, does the story dangle.
Our wall-crawling urban warrior doesn’t know which direction to spin.
If he’s not fighting icky alien gunk that turns him funky, he’s wrestling with a grieving goblin, a fanged photog and a real son of a beach. Even with a leisurely running time of 2 hours and 20 minutes, this first blockbuster of summer ’07 has at least two bad guys too many.
And what’s with all the crying? Both heroes and villains shed tears so readily, you almost want to stand up mid-screening and ask director Sam Raimi to stop the projector so everybody can have a group hug. Did someone forget that Spider-Man is supposed to have funny moments, too?
Meanwhile, girlfriend Mary Jane (Kirsten Dunst) has become both bore and trollop. Unable to fully connect with either Spider-Man or his nerdy alter-ego Peter Parker (Tobey Maguire times two), and miffed that her stage musical career is bombing (with good reason), she turns as faithful as a fruit fly.
Not that Peter is much better, since he falls under the spell of blond hussy Gwen (Bryce Dallas Howard), the daughter of the police captain (James Cromwell).
The dew is definitely off the web in this third instalment of the Spider-Man cinema saga, five years after it first wowed weary eyes. Battle fatigue has set in, as so often happens when franchises hit a triple. The writing, credited to Raimi, his brother Ivan and Spider-Man 2 co-scripter Alvin Sargent, seems drained of ideas, relying on recycled subplots from original Marvel Comics episodes.
In the realm of movie thrill makers, Sam Raimi always seemed like the smartest guy in the room. Now he just seems like the guy with the biggest budget - a near-record $250 million (U.S.) There are times when you wonder what he spent the money on.
Yet for all that, Spider-Man remains the best of the comic book movie adaptations. Enough energy and spirit remain to warrant a recommendation, although it’s one larded with reservations. The action scenes still thrill, but there aren’t enough of them.
The hook with this latest instalment is that Spidey turns bad, switching to a jet-black suit that is definitely a sartorial upgrade, even if it messes with his mind.
He’s the victim of alien slime that literally falls out of the sky and which acts like a fashion consultant with a bad attitude. It turns our hero turn into a pimp-strutting and *****-slapping rouser who comes perilously close to a Ron Burgundy parody. When he’s not in his snazzy Spider duds, Parker dons a black suit matched with a shaggy hairdo that makes him look like a member of Spandau Ballet or an Emo kid, depending on your age and perspective.
It takes a full hour for Spidey to turn to the proverbial dark side, and it’s just one of many strands in this very tangled web.
“I’ve come a long way from the boy who was bitten by a spider,” Parker brags to himself. “Now people really like me.”
His therapist may buy that, but who’s zooming who? Support for Spidey in his New York domain remains shaky at best. Especially since Daily Bugle editor J. Jonah Jameson (J.K. Simmons) is still bent on portraying him as a thug in tights, a mission also taken up by photo hotshot Eddie Brock (Topher Grace), who wants a Bugle job badly enough to blow taps for Spidey.
Brock cuts in on the Spidey-snapping turf previously owned by meek Bugle boy Peter Parker, who requires a backbone transplant more than ever. And while Parker is sorting things out at home and at work, all hell is breaking loose in the concrete canyons.
His erstwhile buddy Harry Osborn (James Franco), still his romantic rival for Mary Jane, has gone as nutso as the late Osborn Sr. He’s morphed into a reborn Green Goblin, more dangerous than ever. An early aerial confrontation between the New Goblin (or Goblin Jr., as Bad Spidey mocks) is one of the highlights of Spider-Man 3.
Then there’s small-time con Flint Marko (Thomas Haden Church), who has a big connection to Parker that is revealed in an eyebrow-rolling flashback. On the lam from the cops, he falls into a vat of souped-up sand that turns him into a genuine dirt bag, and a maudlin one at that. He’s now the shape-shifting Sandman, but he’s all busted up over his nasty habit of firing guns at the people he’s robbing.
“I’m not a bad person,” he wails. “I just had bad luck.”
Tell it to the judge, bub. Or maybe wail to Aunt May (Rosemary Harris), who has become a tedious scold. Like a distaff Yoda, she warns about the dangers of giving into feelings of anger and revenge, hard things to suppress when psycho mutants are chasing you.
Ambulance chaser Eddie Brock turns into fanged foe Venom, who is looking to get even with Spider-Man because - get this - he blames the web-slinger for an act of plagiarism that cost him his job.
It’s not exactly the kind of motivation of which gripping drama is made, but Spidey’s other adversaries aren’t much better. Goblin Jr. wants to avenge his dead pa, Sandman wants to prove he’s not bad by killing people and the black alien gunk seems to want a job dressing Goth supermodels.
Nobody expects great acting in movie like this, but the franchise has previously been a cut above its comic origins. The same can’t be said of Spider-Man 3, which manages to make both Maguire and Dunst seem wooden, wimpy and whiny. What snuffed the spark between these two?
The film’s many complications make you nostalgic for the villains of Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2, the original Green Goblin and Doc Octopus, who had much simpler yet grander plans. Whatever happened to wanting to take over the world, or at least New York City?
None of the super creeps here can even muster a truly evil laugh, although Topher gives it a go, God bless him.
But there I go looking for trouble, when all anybody really wants is a nice big hug.


http://www.thestar.com/artsentertainment/article/209884

Note : I have heard basicly the same thing over and over again.

 

[Kelly]

I've heard that it is the weakest of the 3, BUT I'm going to see it tomorrow, so I'll see for myself. I'm hearing from alot of my kids that went to the midnight showing lastnight that the trailer was SPECTACULAR....so thats good to hear.....and again, as you said.....mixed reviews....but most of the kids were happy to see a 3rd spidey and looking forward to a 4th.

 

[Kelly]

Spidey still swings in Spider-Man 3, but man, does the story dangle.
Our wall-crawling urban warrior doesn’t know which direction to spin.
If he’s not fighting icky alien gunk that turns him funky, he’s wrestling with a grieving goblin, a fanged photog and a real son of a beach. Even with a leisurely running time of 2 hours and 20 minutes, this first blockbuster of summer ’07 has at least two bad guys too many.
And what’s with all the crying? Both heroes and villains shed tears so readily, you almost want to stand up mid-screening and ask director Sam Raimi to stop the projector so everybody can have a group hug. Did someone forget that Spider-Man is supposed to have funny moments, too?
Meanwhile, girlfriend Mary Jane (Kirsten Dunst) has become both bore and trollop. Unable to fully connect with either Spider-Man or his nerdy alter-ego Peter Parker (Tobey Maguire times two), and miffed that her stage musical career is bombing (with good reason), she turns as faithful as a fruit fly.
Not that Peter is much better, since he falls under the spell of blond hussy Gwen (Bryce Dallas Howard), the daughter of the police captain (James Cromwell).
The dew is definitely off the web in this third instalment of the Spider-Man cinema saga, five years after it first wowed weary eyes. Battle fatigue has set in, as so often happens when franchises hit a triple. The writing, credited to Raimi, his brother Ivan and Spider-Man 2 co-scripter Alvin Sargent, seems drained of ideas, relying on recycled subplots from original Marvel Comics episodes.
In the realm of movie thrill makers, Sam Raimi always seemed like the smartest guy in the room. Now he just seems like the guy with the biggest budget - a near-record $250 million (U.S.) There are times when you wonder what he spent the money on.
Yet for all that, Spider-Man remains the best of the comic book movie adaptations. Enough energy and spirit remain to warrant a recommendation, although it’s one larded with reservations. The action scenes still thrill, but there aren’t enough of them.
The hook with this latest instalment is that Spidey turns bad, switching to a jet-black suit that is definitely a sartorial upgrade, even if it messes with his mind.
He’s the victim of alien slime that literally falls out of the sky and which acts like a fashion consultant with a bad attitude. It turns our hero turn into a pimp-strutting and *****-slapping rouser who comes perilously close to a Ron Burgundy parody. When he’s not in his snazzy Spider duds, Parker dons a black suit matched with a shaggy hairdo that makes him look like a member of Spandau Ballet or an Emo kid, depending on your age and perspective.
It takes a full hour for Spidey to turn to the proverbial dark side, and it’s just one of many strands in this very tangled web.
“I’ve come a long way from the boy who was bitten by a spider,” Parker brags to himself. “Now people really like me.”
His therapist may buy that, but who’s zooming who? Support for Spidey in his New York domain remains shaky at best. Especially since Daily Bugle editor J. Jonah Jameson (J.K. Simmons) is still bent on portraying him as a thug in tights, a mission also taken up by photo hotshot Eddie Brock (Topher Grace), who wants a Bugle job badly enough to blow taps for Spidey.
Brock cuts in on the Spidey-snapping turf previously owned by meek Bugle boy Peter Parker, who requires a backbone transplant more than ever. And while Parker is sorting things out at home and at work, all hell is breaking loose in the concrete canyons.
His erstwhile buddy Harry Osborn (James Franco), still his romantic rival for Mary Jane, has gone as nutso as the late Osborn Sr. He’s morphed into a reborn Green Goblin, more dangerous than ever. An early aerial confrontation between the New Goblin (or Goblin Jr., as Bad Spidey mocks) is one of the highlights of Spider-Man 3.
Then there’s small-time con Flint Marko (Thomas Haden Church), who has a big connection to Parker that is revealed in an eyebrow-rolling flashback. On the lam from the cops, he falls into a vat of souped-up sand that turns him into a genuine dirt bag, and a maudlin one at that. He’s now the shape-shifting Sandman, but he’s all busted up over his nasty habit of firing guns at the people he’s robbing.
“I’m not a bad person,” he wails. “I just had bad luck.”
Tell it to the judge, bub. Or maybe wail to Aunt May (Rosemary Harris), who has become a tedious scold. Like a distaff Yoda, she warns about the dangers of giving into feelings of anger and revenge, hard things to suppress when psycho mutants are chasing you.
Ambulance chaser Eddie Brock turns into fanged foe Venom, who is looking to get even with Spider-Man because - get this - he blames the web-slinger for an act of plagiarism that cost him his job.
It’s not exactly the kind of motivation of which gripping drama is made, but Spidey’s other adversaries aren’t much better. Goblin Jr. wants to avenge his dead pa, Sandman wants to prove he’s not bad by killing people and the black alien gunk seems to want a job dressing Goth supermodels.
Nobody expects great acting in movie like this, but the franchise has previously been a cut above its comic origins. The same can’t be said of Spider-Man 3, which manages to make both Maguire and Dunst seem wooden, wimpy and whiny. What snuffed the spark between these two?
The film’s many complications make you nostalgic for the villains of Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2, the original Green Goblin and Doc Octopus, who had much simpler yet grander plans. Whatever happened to wanting to take over the world, or at least New York City?
None of the super creeps here can even muster a truly evil laugh, although Topher gives it a go, God bless him.
But there I go looking for trouble, when all anybody really wants is a nice big hug.


http://www.thestar.com/artsentertainment/article/209884

Note : I have heard basicly the same thing over and over again.

Can we please keep the reviews of the Spiderman 3 movie, to the Spiderman 3 forums?.....

thank you

 

[Kelly]

This is the thread for the Fantastic Four 2 Theatrical Trailer, I know that many have seen the Spiderman 3 and want to get a review out there, but it is more appropriate to give your review in the Spiderman 3 Forum, not this one. Let's keep the discussion to the Trailer please, and keep the long reviews to the Spiderman 3 forum......if you liked or disliked the movie, stating that is no big deal....but keep the discussion to a minimum....



Thanks......


Kel

 

[Spider - Man]

I have to disagree... I think it was the dialogue and not the voice that was the problem. I don't think even James Earl Jones could have make much of a "This is going to be FUN." I have to go back to Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector. He didn't need a deep voice like Jones' to come across as a frighteningly intelligent, sociopathic killer. Having read the book, one thing that has me concerned is that Doom really doesn't have that much dialogue, unless they've kept some stuff out.

The dialogue was definiitely a problem, but not the ONLY problem. I'm saying that even if they DID get a great writer of dialogue in on this thing, Julian STILL doesn't have Doom's voice. Yes, Lecter has a soft, menacing voice (I don't even think Jmac's voice was menacing in the first one) but this is DOOM we're talking about. I don't imagine Doom uttering lines like "At last, I have attained power unlimited and soon that dolt Richards and the rest of those witless fools will bow before me and acknowledge that DOOM is their master!" in a soft, menacing voice. Maybe I'm wrong but I hear it as a booming, arrogant challenge to anyone that would dare think him less than rightful ruler of the world! And I certainly hear it in a foreign accent (and not Australian!).

And speaking of the book, I don't think the character displays very Doom-like behavior in some areas like when he follows the General out of the tent or wherever they were. Maybe I read it wrong but it just hit me like he was acting like the General's little toady, like he was afraid to stay in the place with the FF when the General left. Anyway, I am hoping for a good movie and it seems from what I've already seen that this one will be better than the first. But will it really be the FF movie we've all wanted to see? I just don't know...

 

[Joe Rockhead]

The dialogue was definiitely a problem, but not the ONLY problem. I'm saying that even if they DID get a great writer of dialogue in on this thing, Julian STILL doesn't have Doom's voice. Yes, Lecter has a soft, menacing voice (I don't even think Jmac's voice was menacing in the first one) but this is DOOM we're talking about. I don't imagine Doom uttering lines like "At last, I have attained power unlimited and soon that dolt Richards and the rest of those witless fools will bow before me and acknowledge that DOOM is their master!" in a soft, menacing voice. Maybe I'm wrong but I hear it as a booming, arrogant challenge to anyone that would dare think him less than rightful ruler of the world! And I certainly hear it in a foreign accent (and not Australian!).

Well that's not necessarily true. Doom's had several incarnations in animation - each with a different voice. The Doom from the comics has no voice - just what we imagine it to be.

I think Julian's voice was fine as Victor, but the moment he put the mask on, they should have altered his voice somehow. Add a little more bass to it, maybe some echo as if he's talking from within a metallic chamber. Give his voice some body.

 

[Spider - Man]

Well that's not necessarily true. Doom's had several incarnations in animation - each with a different voice. The Doom from the comics has no voice - just what we imagine it to be.

I think Julian's voice was fine as Victor, but the moment he put the mask on, they should have altered his voice somehow. Add a little more bass to it, maybe some echo as if he's talking from within a metallic chamber. Give his voice some body.

Well, you're right of course. Comic Doom has no "voice". I merely use logic to imagine what his voice would sound like to me. He is from an eastern European nation so I would assume he'd speak in an accent that reflected that. Second, he is one of the great minds of the world, he has nearly unlimited wealth, he commands staggering power...AND he wants the world to know it! In my mind, he doesn't try to get this message across in a soft, menacing voice.

Before this turns into a debate for Albafan to move into her new sticky thread, just let me say that you are right. And Iron Maiden. No one knows what a comic character's voice really sounds like. As I said, I just used my own logic to imagine what Doom's voice should sound like for me. And Macmahon's voice comes nowhere near what I imagine it to be. Of course, using the same kind of logic, if Peter Parker had the ability to shoot organic webs, they'd come outta his butt, so what do I know?!

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

The dialogue was definiitely a problem, but not the ONLY problem. I'm saying that even if they DID get a great writer of dialogue in on this thing, Julian STILL doesn't have Doom's voice. Yes, Lecter has a soft, menacing voice (I don't even think Jmac's voice was menacing in the first one) but this is DOOM we're talking about. I don't imagine Doom uttering lines like "At last, I have attained power unlimited and soon that dolt Richards and the rest of those witless fools will bow before me and acknowledge that DOOM is their master!" in a soft, menacing voice. Maybe I'm wrong but I hear it as a booming, arrogant challenge to anyone that would dare think him less than rightful ruler of the world! And I certainly hear it in a foreign accent (and not Australian!).

And speaking of the book, I don't think the character displays very Doom-like behavior in some areas like when he follows the General out of the tent or wherever they were. Maybe I read it wrong but it just hit me like he was acting like the General's little toady, like he was afraid to stay in the place with the FF when the General left. Anyway, I am hoping for a good movie and it seems from what I've already seen that this one will be better than the first. But will it really be the FF movie we've all wanted to see? I just don't know...

That particular moment didn't bother me. I just figured the conversation was over. No reason for him to hang around.

. . . but I did have a problem with the generally sarcastic (rather than pompous) tone of many of his lines.

 

[Kelly]

And speaking of the book, I don't think the character displays very Doom-like behavior in some areas like when he follows the General out of the tent or wherever they were. Maybe I read it wrong but it just hit me like he was acting like the General's little toady, like he was afraid to stay in the place with the FF when the General left. Anyway, I am hoping for a good movie and it seems from what I've already seen that this one will be better than the first. But will it really be the FF movie we've all wanted to see? I just don't know...

I didn't read it that way AT ALL.....I saw that portion of the novel as

Spoiler

Doom seeing his chance to get the Surfer's power now that the FF were pretty much out of the picture for the moment....he was simply finishing what he truly went there to do.....and good god what he does to the general after that.......nothing little toady after that......AT ALL!

 

[Spider - Man]

I didn't read it that way AT ALL.....I saw that portion of the novel as

Spoiler

Doom seeing his chance to get the Surfer's power now that the FF were pretty much out of the picture for the moment....he was simply finishing what he truly went there to do.....and good god what he does to the general after that.......nothing little toady after that......AT ALL!

Well, as I said, I may have read it wrong. It just didn't strike me as Doom to play the "underling" to anyone, even to get what he wants. But as I stated about his voice, that may also be me placing my own expectations of his behavior onto him.

 

[Fanticon]

I was surprised...I've seen the trailer a bunch of times already, and told all my friends that we were definitely gonna see it shown at midnite with SM3. It did and they loved it! However...my packed midnite crowd...dead silence and a few 'pffts'...they did cheer for HarryPotter and Shrek3rd. Usually when a marvel sign shows up on a trailer...before knowing what it is...the crowd shuts up or cheers...but this time...I seriously felt like there was no love for the FF2 trailer...which struck me as odd.

 

[Bastila]

I saw the trailer with Spidey 3 was like wow, supriesed they had this one yet.

 

[TheShadowCat]

Ok, just got back from seeing Spiderman 3 (it's not as bad as some people make it out to be, a lot better than Ghost Rider) and I've got to say seeing the F4: RotSS trailer on the big screen was drool worthy. The guy sitting next to me said that it looked like fun.

I still think Doug is getting a raw deal, but I'll probably see it after it comes out, but not for full price. Fox doesn't deserve that much of my money after what they've done.

>^^<

 

[Inhuman63]

The trailer looked really good on the big screen. Had a chance to see a tv spot and the trailer in the theater. I think the film is really going to be something special.

 

[TheShadowCat]

The trailer looked really good on the big screen. Had a chance to see a tv spot and the trailer in the theater. I think the film is really going to be something special.

They had something that looked like it was a combination of the trailer and one of the TV ads on before the trailers came on. It was a little weird, but when I started seeing shots from the tv spots, I knew we hadn't seen the actually trailer yet. Which was good since the house lights were still up and people were talking all around us. It's late and I'm starting to ramble. Say goodnight, Gracie.

>^^<

 

[Inhuman63]

They had something that looked like it was a combination of the trailer and one of the TV ads on before the trailers came on.

>^^<

That's the one I'm talking about. It was during a First Look segment that was showing some stuff from TNT and a Peguin movie and a new Adam Sandler movie. It was surprising to see it stuck in there and I was unsure if this was what was attached to the movie or if we were gonna get the whole trailer. I am glad that the whole trailer was attached to the movie I was in. My only qualm is that it was the very first trailer as I would have preferred it being the last one just before Spidey came on.

 

[The Ones]

I got a slightly new trailer with my showing of Spidey 3. You may have heard this but When the choir hits start before the "We have to destroy this thing" We usualy see a shot of the 4 in a forrest, instead there was a shot of a helicopter over a massive crater in the ice (the one Doom is at the edge of, only no one there). And when we see the birds eye shot of Surfer twsiting and looking down at his crater by the London Eye, we see the shot of the 4 in the woods. And the shot of the Surfer phasing through the board is extended at the beginging slightly. We see him put his legs back and together before he fades. These changes surprised me. Only minor but new.