Official Thor Casting Thread

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As I mentioned earlier I've been wrestling for 3 years, before that I boxed for 4 and I've been lifting weights for 10 years.

I'm a pretty big guy and FAR from being a moron.

Ok, so you're a nice guy, maybe. You're big enough for me to think you're nice t: heh. But the thing here is that wrestlers shouldn't be dragged into a movie just because they're big huge guys. It's better to buff up a real actor than having a body delivering lines the Wolfcastle way

 

[Chewy]

When I saw Dark Knight, I was shocked at the idea that I was watching a studio picture. And to make things more out of place - a comic book movie.

I am positive, that Norton and Downey wanted to go the Ledger route with their respective characters but couldn't in order to maintain the tone these movies are evidently displaying.

What exactly would you call the "Heath Ledger route"? As much as everyone on this site now wants every film to be a Dark Knight clone, the character of Tony Stark isn't The Joker and Downey can't possibly give as dynamic a performance. Tony is a generally put together guy who goes through lapses of substance abuse. Notice no one around these parts demands these characters go the "Christian Bale route", because yet again Bruce Wayne isn't The Joker and the character has to be much more reserved.

 

[GhostPoet]

I'm totally against the idea of a Wrestler in the lead role...the acting in wrestling is bad enough...why ruin the movie by bringing on a guy simply on looks alone and no real acting chops?

 

[Ronny Shade]

You know, I went into that film with very poor expectations and came out far more dissatisfied than I thought I'd be.

Cena has never been a good acting talent on WWE, and I honestly don't like his wrestling gimmick at all.

The man can wrestle, that's for sure.

Robert Patrick coulda saved The Marine, but the story was just too typical for him to make it work.

I went in expecting a dumbass action movie. Guess what I got? a dumbass action movie! Swell.
Cena's got a kind of likability. I can't really put my finger on what it is.

But it really was just a dumbass action movie. I'm not vouching for him to play a mythic character like Thor.

No problem, I mean I AM trying to convince people Kevin Nash would make a great THOR t:

Honestly I'm not surprised by the response I've gotten.

The wrestling stigma is worse than pornography, once you go down that road people think you're an idiot even though your intelligence might transcend theirs a great deal.

Didn't Stallone come from porn? I'm a huge Stallone fan.
I also love the Rock... or Dwayne Johnson as he would prefer.

I agree with you here, but we can't lie to ourselves.

MARVEL is recruiting grade A talent (Branagh, Norton, Downey) and inevitably reducing their gifts to please the masses.

HOWEVER if we're talking directors here...Louis Leterrier is a B or C movie director. He rides a gimmick and doesn't offer much else.
Favreau always made poppy for-the-masses movies. I mean you don't make Elf and then go and make something like TDK. I liked Iron Man but it wasn't the grit-and-misery approach that I would have gone with.

These guys haven't been able to take these characters to the level they could because the studio isn't willing to get that serious with the material.

So as you say that, I say the DIRECTORS haven't been taking it seriously. Well, Favreau took seriously the idea of making a fan-pleasing IM film. Not a resonant work of art.

Branagh the guy who will put his heart into it first and make a blockbuster second.

I'm not expecting failure on THOR, but I AM very concerned with this casting choice.

If they go with a cultured, up and coming actor under 6'5", I am simply not going to be able to buy into it.

I LOVE what Gavin Hood did with Sabretooth by casting Liev Schreiber, but this is a very different case.

For me Thor needs to be larger than life.

I don't know Kevin Nash. I'm not too familiar with him, and I don't watch much wrestling. I liked him in Punisher, but it's not like he had much to work with on an acting level. This is why I've been neither naysaying or supporting your choice. I do think that physicality is only one of factors that makes Thor.

When you meet Kevin, you feel like your standing next to something larger than life.

He knows that too, which is funny cause he never takes advantage of it.

Coolest giant I've come across.

So you've actually met Kevin? Do you know him personally?
Because if so this puts a lot more behind your argument.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Ok, so you're a nice guy, maybe. You're big enough for me to think you're nice t: heh. But the thing here is that wrestlers shouldn't be dragged into a movie just because they're big huge guys. It's better to buff up a real actor than having a body delivering lines the Wolfcastle way

I agree with you, trust me.

I wouldn't want someone like Cena or Mike O'Hearn playing Capi either.

*I think the problem with suggesting Kevin as Thor, is that most people are only familiar with his wrestling persona.

I happen to know firsthand that Kevin's acting is quite certifiable.

Its kinda like coming across a UFO, cause if you tell people about it they'll never believe you actually saw it

What exactly would you call the "Heath Ledger route"? As much as everyone on this site now wants every film to be a Dark Knight clone, the character of Tony Stark isn't The Joker and Downey can't possibly give as dynamic a performance. Tony is a generally put together guy who goes through lapses of substance abuse. Notice no one around these parts demands these characters go the "Christian Bale route", because yet again Bruce Wayne isn't The Joker and the character has to be much more reserved.

Best example, there's a line in IRON MAN that Downey hated having to say.

"Somehow I just know what I have to do."

I couldn't agree with him more.

Its cliche and wreaks of superhero.

Even though Downey gave a GREAT performance in IRON MAN comparable to Jackman's Wolverine and Maguire's Spider Man, Downey had ALOT more to bring to the table that he wasn't allowed to.

I loved watching the behind the scenes footage where Downey used the F word dozens of times during takes that where actually used in the film and then edited out.

Heath Ledger was allowed to go that route.

He was able to treat his [comic book] character as a REAL, genuine monster rather than just another incarnation of a beloved two dimensional villain.

Dark Knight was basically shot to be an ANTI Comic Book movie.

It used a recipe that went against everything marketing and test screenings have proven WON'T attract the kids.

Who woulda known so many adults in America watch movies...

IRON MAN was good, but in the end was also light.

Dark Knight counters that and that counter is pointing at Oscar gold.

If Branagh was doing THOR away from MARVEL, then we could expect something truly epic and incredible.

What we'll probably get is something fun and interesting that I can take my brother's kids to see.

 

[Chewy]

Best example, there's a line in IRON MAN that Downey hated having to say.

"Somehow I just know what I have to do."

I couldn't agree with him more.

Its cliche and wreaks of superhero.

Even though Downey gave a GREAT performance in IRON MAN comparable to Jackman's Wolverine and Maguire's Spider Man, Downey had ALOT more to bring to the table that he wasn't allowed to.

I loved watching the behind the scenes footage where Downey used the F word dozens of times during takes that where actually used in the film and then edited out.

Heath Ledger was allowed to go that route.

He was able to treat his [comic book] character as a REAL, genuine monster rather than just another incarnation of a beloved two dimensional villain.

Dark Knight was basically shot to be an ANTI Comic Book movie.

It used a recipe that went against everything marketing and test screenings have proven WON'T attract the kids.

Who woulda known so many adults in America watch movies...

IRON MAN was good, but in the end was also light.

Dark Knight counters that and that counter is pointing at Oscar gold.

If Branagh was doing THOR away from MARVEL, then we could expect something truly epic and incredible.

What we'll probably get is something fun and interesting that I can take my brother's kids to see.

But yet again, you're comparing The Joker, a character who can basically say or do anything in the film because he doesn't have to be its backbone and the character the audience can identify with, to Tony Stark, the hero. Comparing Downey's performance to that of Bale is much more valid, and I personally find Downey's performance in Iron Man to be more dynamic than Bale's.

And people also seem to forget that The Dark Knight was Nolan's second foray into the world of Batman. Batman Begins was hardly oscar caliber and Iron Man is definitely on par with it (in my opinion Iron Man is the superior film, I know many disagree and I respect their opinions). Hopefully Iron Man 2 will be for Iron Man what The Dark Knight was for Batman.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Didn't Stallone come from porn? I'm a huge Stallone fan.

Yeah Stallone got away with it only because porn was a strange little venue at that time (late 60s).

These days, it'll scar you for life as an actor.

HOWEVER if we're talking directors here...Louis Leterrier is a B or C movie director. He rides a gimmick and doesn't offer much else.

I agree, I had very little confidence in Leterrier's abilities.

I basically put my trust in Norton since he basically "took over" the movie.

Favreau always made poppy for-the-masses movies. I mean you don't make Elf and then go and make something like TDK. I liked Iron Man but it wasn't the grit-and-misery approach that I would have gone with.

Thank You. Seriously, its good to hear someone acknowledge that IRON MAN coulda been darker.

Favreau's best was MADE.

But that film doesn't apply or relate to IRON MAN at all.

Branagh the guy who will put his heart into it first and make a blockbuster second.

I have GREAT confidence in Branagh.

The issue for me is MARVEL.

I feel they will get in his way and we'll have another Norton vs Marvel situation.

Branagh will try to make something mythical and MARVEL will only be thinking about what the poster's gonna look like.

I really like MARVEL, but I think they behaved poorly with Norton.

As far as I'm concerned, they were lucky to get Derek Vyniard to play Banner.

I don't know Kevin Nash. I'm not too familiar with him, and I don't watch much wrestling. I liked him in Punisher, but it's not like he had much to work with on an acting level. This is why I've been neither naysaying or supporting your choice. I do think that physicality is only one of factors that makes Thor.

So you've actually met Kevin? Do you know him personally?
Because if so this puts a lot more behind your argument.

The first time I got to cross paths with Kevin I expected very little from the guy. Most of the guys from the business I know are all at heart great guys, but don't really have much to say about film.

Kev loves cinema.

He admires films very few people would actually ever take the time to see.

If you asked me "Should Kevin Nash play THOR?" before I knew about the man's passion for film, I woulda said "I don't know."

He's arguably one of the coolest guys in wrestling you'll meet, and unlike alot of the other older dogs, he won't be a dick to you cause you're just starting out.

Any man who misses The American Western today has my vote to play Thor.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Faveru's Made doesnt apply to Iron Man? Stark is not unlike the characters Vince Vaughn plays in Jons movies. Stark isnt a wannabe but his personality is very similar.

And Nash might be a nice guy and thats great hes nice to upcoming wrestlers, but hes not Thor. And its cool that he likes cinema. So do I, but Im not an actor and neither is he.

 

[Ronny Shade]

The first time I got to cross paths with Kevin I expected very little from the guy. Most of the guys from the business I know are all at heart great guys, but don't really have much to say about film.

Kev loves cinema.

He admires films very few people would actually ever take the time to see.

If you asked me "Should Kevin Nash play THOR?" before I knew about the man's passion for film, I woulda said "I don't know."

He's arguably one of the coolest guys in wrestling you'll meet, and unlike alot of the other older dogs, he won't be a dick to you cause you're just starting out.

Any man who misses The American Western today has my vote to play Thor.

I've had a script idea bouncing around in my head for a big f-you-up type of guy in the main role. But if I write it right it has a lot of potential to get some good acting out of it. I came up with it earlier this year thinking that a guy who's always played the bit part "big scary guy" role would be be attracted to it because it would have potential for him to be able to break out as a star and showcase his awesomeness.

Never actually sat down and wrote it though.

 

[aka Kal el]

I am a big Kevin Nash fan as a wrestler. He's a super nice guy. I've run into him a few times at the chiropractor's office. I don't want him as Thor though. He's a decent actor and yeah, physically, he's Thor. I don't believe he has the acting chops for the drama that Thor is gonna need. Thor is gonna require an actor who is as good at acting as he is at action. Maybe not an oscar caliber actor, but someone at the top of their game.

I actually asked Kevin about this personally and he indicated he would love to do it but they would have to use CGI because his knees are so bad.Well at least he can laugh about it. agreed he is a really nice guy.

 

[SNIKT1950]

I've had a script idea bouncing around in my head for a big f-you-up type of guy in the main role. But if I write it right it has a lot of potential to get some good acting out of it. I came up with it earlier this year thinking that a guy who's always played the bit part "big scary guy" role would be be attracted to it because it would have potential for him to be able to break out as a star and showcase his awesomeness.

Never actually sat down and wrote it though.

Well what are you waiting for???

Only a great writer can break the spell that is wrestling stigma.

Kenneth Branagh could be Kevin's John Milius.

Nash might be a nice guy and thats great hes nice to upcoming wrestlers, but hes not Thor. And its cool that he likes cinema. So do I, but Im not an actor and neither is he.

This is something you are being led to believe by what he's only been allowed to demonstrate with wrestling and small roles in questionable films.

I'm sure if you were to see Kevin actually acting, you'd have a tough time dissagreeing with me.

I actually asked Kevin about this personally and he indicated he would love to do it but they would have to use CGI because his knees are so bad.Well at least he can laugh about it. agreed he is a really nice guy.

Hmmm...

To be frank here, the whole knee thing is actually 30% truth, 70% gimmick.

Kevin is actually really nimble on the mats...so I'm kinda surprised he'd say that to you.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Well what are you waiting for???

Only a great writer can break the spell that is wrestling stigma.

Kenneth Branagh could be Kevin's John Milius.

Mainly because I've got a lot of other ideas I'm working on that are more feasible on an independent budget.

 

[cerealkiller182]

This is something you are being led to believe by what he's only been allowed to demonstrate with wrestling and small roles in questionable films.

I'm sure if you were to see Kevin actually acting, you'd have a tough time dissagreeing with me.

So where exactly are you seeing this magnificent Nash performance that you are basing this suggestion on?

 

[SNIKT1950]

So where exactly are you seeing this magnificent Nash performance?

What I've seen has been in person.

Not talking moves, not talking powerbombs.

*I've got my fingers crossed that the rest of you can see it too.

Of course its a longshot with what I've been hearing about the script.

Humor me, and take a look at some of these vids that prove Kevin is ALOT funnier than Gary Coleman

The first one KILLS me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za0dSviyPa4...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PyE7Nb83Fw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9l2WT_xK6w&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i8-CylpzTY...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqgywZlb7o0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM1mh3qf3Y4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=016pGfgdI6o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPOViWZJUws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9_zpTsqXUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWDJ6kwc2pE...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5QUq5UPyfw...feature=related

Prepare to EXPLODE in laughter...

 

[cerealkiller182]

A lot of people are very charming and funny in person. That doesnt mean they can actually act.

I dont get it. A couple of videos of him picking on and annoying what seem to be a crop of rookie wrestlers.

 

[broblacksteel]

i cant WAIT for the announcement of who is actually going to play THOR so all of these comedic castings/pics of guys with blond hair/wigs who have gladiator armor on or are big wrestlers can CEASE ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!

(sighs, but as soon as they cast THOR then all the loki and odin speculation will begin too...lol)

 

[Chewy]

odin speculation

Odin = Brian Blessed.

Speculation over

 

[SNIKT1950]

A lot of people are very charming and funny in person. That doesnt mean they can actually act.

I never said my confidence in his acting came from his charming personality

Let's just say Kevin is a cross between Harrison Ford and a mountain.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I never said my confidence in his acting came from his charming personality

Let's just say Kevin is a cross between Harrison Ford and a mountain.

Yeah, but Harrison Ford wouldn't be a good Thor...even if he was as big as Kevin Nash.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I never said my confidence in his acting came from his charming personality

Let's just say Kevin is a cross between Harrison Ford and a mountain.

I was talking about the videos you posted where Nash is getting by on charisma that only wrestling fans seem to buy into.

Where the hell do you see Harrison Ford?

 

[Ronny Shade]

I was talking about the videos you posted where Nash is getting by on charisma that only wrestling fans seem to buy into.

Where the hell do you see Harrison Ford?

Theyve got a similar corny likability.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I guess but you could say that about a lot of people.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Theyve got a similar corny likability.

Agreed.

Though Kevin can really tap into his serious notes when he wants to.

I was talking about the videos you posted where Nash is getting by on charisma that only wrestling fans seem to buy into.

I only posted the vids to give you and the rest of the Anti-Nash crowd here a few laughs, and I don't believe only wrestlers and wrestling enthusiasts can find them funny

I guess but you could say that about a lot of people.

Harrison Ford isn't "Alot of people".

And neither is Kevin.

Here's a recent pic I think reads THOR!

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5538/kevinnashslammiversary2vr7.png

 

[Ronny Shade]

Agreed.

Though Kevin can really tap into his serious notes when he wants to.

Well Ford is serious all the time...but he's still corny. Part of what I love about him.

Here's a recent pic I think reads THOR!

Definitely can pull off the hair!

 

[cerealkiller182]

Harrison Ford isn't "Alot of people".

No hes not, but corny likeability is a label I could give a lot of people.

And neither is Kevin.

No, hes not a lot of people. He is much bigger than a lot of people and its about the only thing hes got going for him as far as getting a role as thor.