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Yeah, but Thor says that Galactus is draining the "very forces of [his] life" through Mjolnir. Which makes sense since Mjolnir's a big honkin' energy conduit, able to absorb and dispense energy of all kinds, and Thor's charged it with his own life force before on numerous occasions (that's where the god blast comes from).
 
Scared him away from Earth on another occasion, though. Of course, that was when it was rushing at his face in deadly fashion, not hooked up to an all-you-can-eat buffet machine.
 
Kieron Gillen Interview @CBR

Gillen thinks part of the reason “Thor” is packed with emotional scenes is because the Thunder God has to deal with problematic family members like Loki or his deceased father, Odin. The character also has to regularly tackle dilemmas that arise from the way the mortal and the divine world intersect and interact. “You saw that in the relationships between Thor and the Oklahomans in JMS’s run [when Asgard was brought back at the beginning of JMS’s run, it floated above a small town in Oklahoma]. That lead to some of the gentler and touching moments in the series,” Gillen said. “Now that the Asgardians have relocated to Latveria things have changed. The mortals in that area are very different from the mortals in Oklahoma, especially Doctor Doom, who has a much different relationship with the divine.”

Indeed, Doom finds the very idea of gods to be offensive. “To him it’s like, ‘If you’re a god then who am I?’ He’s brilliant beyond all belief but he’s perhaps not as good as he wants to be and rubbing him up against gods like the Asgardians means you start talking about things like hubris,” Gillen explained. “I don’t think Doom would view the Asgardians as gods. He’d view them as some people he’s playing host to in his country. Doom is not a guy who bows.”

Gillen finds Doctor Doom to be an interesting foil for Thor and almost any superhero because, he said, the Doctor is the dark reflection of characters like Batman and Captain America. “There are these characters that are seen as the pinnacles of what humanity is all about and if you’re a more cynical person you might say Doom is one of those characters,” Gillen said. “Doom may be brilliant and incredibly capable but he’s also a very nasty portrait of humanity. He’s greedy, jealous, and overbearing. The fact that he is a darker paragon of humanity makes him my favorite Marvel villain.”

The other main villain of Gillen’s arc is of course Loki, who the writer sees as being motivated by rage and hatred. “He’s pretty petty for a god isn’t he? There’s a sense of an enormous grudge with Loki. He feels slighted and one of the best things about JMS’s run has been Loki’s slow burn plot to zap everyone in the world and bring it down in flames,” the writer explained. “‘Loki would like his revenge paid in full and that revenge is also very important to him. Some people if they could remove that from their lives they would. They have a sense of, ‘I wish I never hated in the first place.’ Not Loki though. He’s glad he hated in the first place. That hate defines him and makes him very pure. He often hides his motivations but when Loki really wants to show how he feels it’s primal. We return to idea of the opera in that Loki’s feelings are primal and dark things. It’s like his feelings are this black hole that the rest of the universe revolves around.”
 
I'm not nuts about Tan on art but the writer sounds like he's got a handle on the world he wants to play in.
 
Didn't Odin put a little of himself/Odinforce into Mjolnir?



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Well in a way yes, but the Dwarves made Mjolnir. It's why Thor gave up what was left of the ODIN-force in himself to fix Mjolnir and retrieve Sif.
I still think the THORforce remains in tact because I think it's tied with Gaea's powers in Thor.
 
A lot of artists/writers have a hard time consistently giving Galactus his due. =/
 
yeah but this way he looks like he was in a cosmic shower too long. :D
MAN I missed alot in Godhunter 2 it look like. I never got it and my LCS has it on back order.
 
yeah but this way he looks like he was in a cosmic shower too long. :D
MAN I missed alot in Godhunter 2 it look like. I never got it and my LCS has it on back order.

Well, Galacky IS an old geezebag...maybe time's caught up with him. That energy can't keep the wrinkles away forever.

Galactus eating Thor = bad visual.
 
EONS old yes, but the "incubater" changed that.
Gaelan (sp?) was from a tall race so don't expect the Big G to become our size or smaller the typical aged look just seems off. I can see this is some side effect from the old powers in Skarr, but not from being hungry from planets.

Galactus eatting Thor or BRB...I keep seeing the old perv on Family Guy.
 
....um why is the big G all prunie?
When Bryne covered Galactus at low levels he was just smaller in size not shrivled up.
He's prunie because Bill has been destroying every world in his path to starve him. Plus, Godhunter seems to take place between Annihilation and Skaar, meaning Galactus is still weak from his encounter with Tenebrous and Aegis and his enslavement by Thanos, and he hasn't re-energized himself with the Oldpower yet. It's not old age so much as total starvation. People tend to get pretty wrinkly and gaunt when they're starving to death, too.

Anyway, about that interview with Gillen: I like his thoughts on Loki a lot. Reminds me of Robert Rodi's Loki series, where Loki finally won and his facade fell away, revealing pure, unadulterated pettiness and scorn for perceived slights from Balder, Sif, and especially Odin and Thor.

I also like his thoughts on Doom as a dark reflection of Batman--both paragons of humanity who've fulfilled their potential better than anyone else, yet with totally different aims in mind. Should be interesting to see how that carries over into the ongoing theme of the relationship between man and god in post-relaunch Thor.
 
Anyway, about that interview with Gillen: I like his thoughts on Loki a lot. Reminds me of Robert Rodi's Loki series, where Loki finally won and his facade fell away, revealing pure, unadulterated pettiness and scorn for perceived slights from Balder, Sif, and especially Odin and Thor.

Percieved slights? They totally slighted him dude. Odin in fact had to **** when loki called him out cause he was right.
 
He and Gillen are both only on for a short time, I think.
Percieved slights? They totally slighted him dude. Odin in fact had to **** when loki called him out cause he was right.
Yeah, but Thor didn't really slight him. Loki struck the first blow there. Being indifferent to someone isn't really a slight, so Balder's off the hook. Not being attracted to someone isn't really a slight, although Sif's debatable because she was kind of a jerk to him when she was dating Thor--although it's often portrayed as Sif simply being close to Loki through Thor and being able to see Loki's pettiness without the veil of love, unlike Thor. She could see the man he'd become even in youth.

But only Odin's really done anything to indisputably incite Loki's hatred. The rest of Loki's rivalries were arguably self-inflicted.
 
No, but it's like that fairly cool kid that has the nerdy/ugly friend that eventually just stops talking to him.

Balder seems like a dick in general. I mean the golden god that everyone loved. It's like being the winner on american idol, I hate those people just for balance.

Yeah but odin knew everyone would hate loki and he would be an outsider. Odin set him up to be the bad guy. Can't blame the man for being that.
 
Sure you can. Plenty of outsiders survive their awkward youth and grow to be normal folks in adulthood. Only a small percentage wind up becoming the terrorists and psycho school shooters, which is the equivalent of what Loki became. I love that Loki's petty and overflowing with hatred, but let's not make him out to be more of a victim than he was; Odin f***ed him over but pretty much everyone else didn't really mind him either way until he started being snotty and then obnoxious and then murderous and then totally evil. Thor was even a wonderful friend to him, which is all most outsiders really need to grow up right in the head--that one great friend or mentor who makes them realize they're not so bad. Only in Loki's case, his one friend turned out to be perfect and hang out with all the cool kids growing up, so he got even more resentful; but, it should be noted, that was through no fault of Thor's--he simply was who he was. Again, it's Odin who lavished Thor with affection and mostly ignored Loki.
 
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It would be like this: I'm a white supremicist. I train all my son's to fight and kick ass. I decide my best son needs some proper competition. So I find the biggest black guy around, kill his ass then I take his son. Only his son isn't that big or anything, more of a brain. I adopt that kid and have him in my house. If that kid doesn't grow up dispising white people to his very core, he has no soul.

Also bad analogy with school shooters, they want revenge and publicity. They want people to know who they are and they only want revenge. Loki likes to work in the shadows so no one knows it's him and he wants to rule, to prove his superiority through his greatest asset, his mind. Loki would be the kid that convinces the other kids to be school shooters (making sure his enemies are killed first) then he'd denounce them and become school president for his crusade against school shooters, becoming beloved and probably getting a scholarship where ever he wants. Eventually making enough money to by that town and rule it.

He was the son of a frost giant, who is the asgardian's natural enemy. Plus he had none of the attributes which asgardians were praised for. I promise you they hated him growing up. This odd kid that was their enemy that was so much smarter than them.
 
That's certainly one interpretation. I don't see Loki's childhood in such black and white terms, though. However he came to live among the Asgardians, he was presented as a prince of the royal house and the other prince, whom everyone loves, loved him and showed him nothing but kindness in their youth until Loki started trampling on said kindness and slapping Thor's hand of friendship away. Even when others would speak ill of Loki, Thor would defend him. It's not like scorn and disgust were the only things Loki ever encountered in his childhood.

Take Balder. Even in the mini-series, he says outright that Balder's only crime was not noticing him. He has the best friend you could ask for in Thor, yet he's so enraged by some popular guy not noticing him that he resorts to manipulation and murder for revenge? That's a symptom of a mind that's already pretty f***ed up. Loki's far from guiltless in his own corruption.
 
I view it as I've stated with thor being the only person that was probably ever decent to loki, hence the extra hate. Loki got more hate than any asgardian, expecially since he isn't asgardian.

Yeah and I don't think loki really hates balder too much I think the hate is more because balder got everyone's love and loki got everyone's hate and it's kinda hard not to be jealous of that. Besides murderous manipulation is kinda loki's thing, he's used it for good in the myths (defending children primarily) but he was raised to challenge thor, to be his nemesis. Can't blame him for being what he was raised to be.
 
But he wasn't raised specifically for that. In terms of the narrative, sure, but within the universe he was just a victim of bad parenting from Odin, mixed with plenty of his own pre-existing issues. I didn't really see a lot of particularly bad treatment from others until young adulthood, going by Son of Asgard, Tales of Asgard, and the Loki mini-series, which are probably the best sources for Marvel's version of Loki's youth. It just seems like you may be victimizing him more in your head than he really was.
 
Well in a way Loki had it better with Odin over his own father. Loki was treated like crud by his own father.
 
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