Official UFC Thread - Part 3

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rampage gets on my nerves news flash jackson everyone fight hurt anderson had bruised ribs when he fought chael and rashad had hurt ribs when he fought davis

you cant have it both ways rampage fight hurt and shut up or heal up and back out of fight

you cant fight hurt then complain about injury after you lose as an excuse
 
LOL, fighters do it all the time :D .

He already left the UFC high and dry to go film his little A-Team movie which is never getting a sequel and he even admitted he didn't get paid a lot for.
 
yeah ufc let him go and film a movie and helped him escape jail time for his hit and run

rampage should be more thankful not to mention dude made more than half a million in 4 months(bader&Jones Fights)
 
He was paid a reported $400K with his FOTN bonus for the Jones fight. He probably made even more from that fight with his PPV points bonus and sponsorship money. I'm sure he made over a million when all is said and done.
 
That's what disappoints me about Rampage. He is so quick to blame everyone else for his issues. It's not something that's come with age either. He has even said it himself that he has an excuse for all of his losses. I bet that if he does fight somewhere else and ends up broke he'll be on ESPN in 5 years talking about how the UFC should have wanted to renegotiate his contract and that he's broke because of it.
 
Have him fight Bonnar or Franklin next. Then he can go and try fighting in the Super Fight League against Bob Sapp and James Thompson. Or Bellator where there is no one for him to fight.

Or he can try Hollywood again where no A-Team sequel is being made and he won't get big roles.
 
Or they'll remake Rocky III & he can play Clubber Lang.. :D

Seriously though on the subject of Rampage, theres no point in him doing a Fedor & going to other places for less money & fighting nobodies or has beens. It won't do anything for his legacy in the sport, in the same way that none of the wins & all of the defeats have only hurt Fedor's legacy post-Pride.

It's understandable that he is pissed considering what he claims the UFC said to his managment after the Jones fight, however he should suck it up, say nothing & fight whoever they put in front of him instead of asking to be released from his contract via Twitter. I'd rather see him just retire than go anywhere else at this juncture. The top LHW fighters are in the UFC bar maybe 1 or 2 scattered around here & there.. going 7-4 in the UFC's LHW division means far, far more than going 10-0 against no namers or has beens.

He should do the remaining fight for the UFC, if he gives a good account of himself the UFC will want him to resign him considering he has a handful of rematches that I'm sure they'd want to cash in on, Griffin, Shogun, Evans, Henderson or even just for the fun of it.. a fight with Tito would be good to see considering how much **** & banter both guys talk.
 
That Pat Curran fight got me wondering...

What's the most brutal fight you guys have seen?
 
Who cares what they said? He got paid for that fight. Also honestly can we really even believe Rampage at this point?

UFC kept him out of jail during his whole car crash incident. They brought him back and still put him in big fights and paid him big money after the UFC in Memphis debacle.

He claims UFC doesn't promote him enough, ****ing ****, UFC promoted the hell out of him and a ton of his fights. They gave him two spots on TUF. They gave him a Primetime special for the Evans fight. How did they not promote him?
 
Will you guys get choked if I start posting picture of Rampage with "U Mad?" on them? I just want a heads up.
 
LOL, not at all. I wouldn't.

Most brutal fight ever? Well one of the most brutal KO's ever was when Silva knocked out Rampage silly and he fell through the ropes in Pride.
 
i guess being a coach 2 times on the ultimate fighter is not promoting him enough lol
 
Who cares what they said? He got paid for that fight. Also honestly can we really even believe Rampage at this point?

Obviously Rampage cares, you do know by what the UFC told his managment that they essentially told him that he doesn't matter anymore & he has lost his appeal to bring in the audiences..?

Why shouldn't we believe what Rampage has said? Does he have a long track history of telling lies?

UFC kept him out of jail during his whole car crash incident. They brought him back and still put him in big fights and paid him big money after the UFC in Memphis debacle.

Well the UFC didn't do anything to keep him out of jail, they stood by him because they knew he'd done nothing wrong... and by nothing wrong I mean it would have been a different story had he been drunk or off his head on drugs during the car incident. They'd have cut him if that was the case.

He claims UFC doesn't promote him enough, ****ing ****, UFC promoted the hell out of him and a ton of his fights. They gave him two spots on TUF. They gave him a Primetime special for the Evans fight. How did they not promote him?

Where abouts did he say the UFC didn't promote him enough?

I remember reading him saying he didn't like how the UFC promoted him particularly around TUF with Evans in the sense of what footage was shown of him compared to Evans but that was years ago.
 
rampage also claims joe silva is an idiot for giving him wrestlers lol

talk about wanting easy favorable matches lol

last time i checked ramapge if you want your title back you need to face top contenders

Jones
Rashad
Davis
Bader

are all wrestlers
 
Obviously Rampage cares, you do know by what the UFC told his managment that they essentially told him that he doesn't matter anymore & he has lost his appeal to bring in the audiences..?

B, Rampage is no longer a credible source of information. I've already dissected a number of his ******** soundbytes in recent days. He told Bas Rutten that the A-Team movie was bigger than the UFC. Maybe the UFC said his marketability is declining with his recent losses and honestly that would be accurate.

Why shouldn't we believe what Rampage has said? Does he have a long track history of telling lies?

Yes. In 2009 and 2010 he said he was done with UFC and MMA for good and he was "retired." So there's a lie.

Well the UFC didn't do anything to keep him out of jail, they stood by him because they knew he'd done nothing wrong... and by nothing wrong I mean it would have been a different story had he been drunk or off his head on drugs during the car incident. They'd have cut him if that was the case.

LOL, nothing wrong. UFC bailed him out of jail and gave him a UFC lawyer to defend him and he got off with a slap on the wrist. Do you realize he was driving and crashing into other cars on the I-55? If it was any other person they'd be in jail or probably would've gotten their driver's license suspended.

Where abouts did he say the UFC didn't promote him enough?

I remember reading him saying he didn't like how the UFC promoted him particularly around TUF with Evans in the sense of what footage was shown of him compared to Evans but that was years ago.

He said so in the HDNet interview with Bas Rutten. He's saying it on Twitter and any idiot who listens to him who without challenging him.

He's saying he's not being promoted enough, but UFC and Spike TV put him all over the place in 2008 and 2009 for The Ultimate Fighter and his fights with Forrest Griffin and Rashad Evans.
 
rampage also claims joe silva is an idiot for giving him wrestlers lol

talk about wanting easy favorable matches lol

last time i checked ramapge if you want your title back you need to face top contenders

Jones
Rashad
Davis
Bader

are all wrestlers

Lyoto Machida isn't a wrestler. Jon Jones is a wrestler but he's the freaking champion and they ****ing gave Rampage a TITLE FIGHT! So I mean . . . what the **** does he want?!
 
That Pat Curran fight got me wondering...

What's the most brutal fight you guys have seen?

For me it's Arona vs. Sakuraba. Just look at what he did to poor Saku's face.
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LOL, not at all. I wouldn't.

Most brutal fight ever? Well one of the most brutal KO's ever was when Silva knocked out Rampage silly and he fell through the ropes in Pride.

Oh man! Yeah that was brutal.

Mine is Sergei Kharitonov vs Semmy Schilt at PRIDE Total Elimination 2004.

It's the only time I've felt bad for a fighter and it's a fight that i will never watch again.

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For me it's Arona vs. Sakuraba. Just look at what he did to poor Saku's face.
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I'm watching that fight and holy s***. Those high knee strikes was brutal.
 
B, Rampage is no longer a credible source of information. I've already dissected a number of his ******** soundbytes in recent days. He told Bas Rutten that the A-Team movie was bigger than the UFC. Maybe the UFC said his marketability is declining with his recent losses and honestly that would be accurate.

Rampage for me is as much a credible source of information as anyone is in MMA. I wouldn't bet my house on what all of them say is true, however at the same time theres some truth to be found in every story.

Yes. In 2009 and 2010 he said he was done with UFC and MMA for good and he was "retired." So there's a lie.

That's not so much a lie as a plan.. and as we all know, plans change.

Thiago Alves said he was gonna take the pound for pound best fighter & knock him out, was that a lie? No, it was his plan at that stage of his career.. his plan was to knock GSP out in the same way that Rampage's plan was to use the A-Team film to hopefully get him out of the fighting game and into Hollywood, A-Team didn't perform well at the box office & as a result it didn't lead to any sequels or send Rampage to other high profile roles.

LOL, nothing wrong. UFC bailed him out of jail and gave him a UFC lawyer to defend him and he got off with a slap on the wrist. Do you realize he was driving and crashing into other cars on the I-55? If it was any other person they'd be in jail or probably would've gotten their driver's license suspended.

LOL, he didn't get a slap on the wrist because the UFC was there to hold his hands, he got off with a slap on the wrists because he was suffering from delirium.

The UFC didn't keep him out of jail by finding some wierd loophole, they were able to get him off because it is a medical condition that can have a variety of symptoms that caused his erratic driving.

He said so in the HDNet interview with Bas Rutten. He's saying it on Twitter and any idiot who listens to him who without challenging him.

He's saying he's not being promoted enough, but UFC and Spike TV put him all over the place in 2008 and 2009 for The Ultimate Fighter and his fights with Forrest Griffin and Rashad Evans.

Link? Quotes? I've not seen him saying it so your gonna have to help me out.

I'll have to watch the full HDNet interview for myself as I've only heard snippets, the rest I've read.
 
Rampage for me is as much a credible source of information as anyone is in MMA. I wouldn't bet my house on what all of them say is true, however at the same time theres some truth to be found in every story.

I don't believe anything he says at face value because most of what he says is ********.

That's not so much a lie as a plan.. and as we all know, plans change.

Thiago Alves said he was gonna take the pound for pound best fighter & knock him out, was that a lie? No, it was his plan at that stage of his career.. his plan was to knock GSP out in the same way that Rampage's plan was to use the A-Team film to hopefully get him out of the fighting game and into Hollywood, A-Team didn't perform well at the box office & as a result it didn't lead to any sequels or send Rampage to other high profile roles.

There's a difference between saying you are going to beat someone and then say "I'm retired and done with MMA and the UFC."

And A-Team not going well just proves the point IMHO. Rampage isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

He's complaining about fighting wrestlers and guys who do nothing but hump his leg. Lyoto Machida was not a wrestler. Some of the top guys in his division are wrestlers so he can either get over it and learn to deal with wrestlers or quit. They gave him another title shot against Jon Jones. So what else can be done?

LOL, he didn't get a slap on the wrist because the UFC was there to hold his hands, he got off with a slap on the wrists because he was suffering from delirium.

UFC stood by him the whole time. They got him out of jail and they lawyered him up. What other league or promotion would've done that? Any other company would've likely distanced themselves from rampage after that.
The UFC didn't keep him out of jail by finding some weird loophole, they were able to get him off because it is a medical condition that can have a variety of symptoms that caused his erratic driving.

Yeah they got him off. Exactly.

Link? Quotes? I've not seen him saying it so your gonna have to help me out.

I'll have to watch the full HDNet interview for myself as I've only heard snippets, the rest I've read.

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/22...acement-Therapy,-Says-He-Wants-Out-of-UFC.htm

Here it is so you can't proclaim ignorance any longer.
 
Also just one other thing. In early 2011, UFC offered Rampage a fight with Shogun which Rampage had to turn down because he was too freaking fat and overweight to get ready in time. Who ended up getting the shot? Jon Jones after he beat Bader.
 
I don't believe anything he says at face value because most of what he says is ********.

Fair enough. I don't take the word of Rampage or any fighter/promotion as the gospel. At the same time I'm not gonna not believe what someone is saying just because I don't like them..

There's a difference between saying you are going to beat someone and then say "I'm retired and done with MMA and the UFC."

And A-Team not going well just proves the point IMHO. Rampage isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

The only way theres a difference is if your reading into both statements to suit your own agenda. In the real world though both are exactly the same thing, they are plans.. when things don't go exactly to plan or as described, they aren't called lies.. they're just.. well they're nothing. Failed plans if anything..

He's complaining about fighting wrestlers and guys who do nothing but hump his leg. Lyoto Machida was not a wrestler. Some of the top guys in his division are wrestlers so he can either get over it and learn to deal with wrestlers or quit. They gave him another title shot against Jon Jones. So what else can be done?

So what? His problems originated elsewhere with the UFC & as a result hes just venting all of his frustrations with fighting in the UFC.. for him one of which is fighting guys that want to put him on his back & grind out a win by trying to keep him pinned down.

Also for the record, Lyoto Machida is 1 fighter. That's 1 fight out of his last 5 wasn't against a wrestler.. I'm not saying I agree with Rampage at all because if you want to be near the top of the division you really need to mix things up alot more than he does & wrestling is only one aspect of that.. however based upon what I've read about Rampage, hes more interested in fighting guys that are there to really there to fight with him as opposed to guys that will give him a fast track to a title shot.. the Jon Jones title fight only really came about because of injuries to other fighters & the fact that he was really one of the divisions only credible choices even though he was only on a 2 fight winning streak.

UFC stood by him the whole time. They got him out of jail and they lawyered him up. What other league or promotion would've done that? Any other company would've likely distanced themselves from rampage after that.

Yeah they got him off. Exactly.

Even without the UFC's lawyers & Dana White's backing, he is capable of hiring his own lawyer himself & still would have got off because he was suffering from delirium when the incident happened, it wasn't drugs or alcohol it was a valid medical condition that caused his wreckless driving.

UFC works different from other promotions, they work like an NFL/Football Club type franchise. They'll do their own investigation into what has happened & they'll either back you or sack you. They won't just leave you to it.. especally if like Rampage you are still under contract & one of the promotions most valuable fighters.


Hmm.. I hear him utter the words 'they barely promote me' which clearly isn't the case given that he appeared on TUF twice & I believe a Primetime for the Evans fight as well.

However a few moments earlier hes talking about how he is promoted in the sense that what is shown makes people look at him a different way from who he really is. So assuming hes still talking along the same lines hes more than likely saying 'they barely promote me' the emphasis being on the word me because he doesn't think they are promoting who he really is.
 
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