Official UFC Thread - Part 3

[E-Man]

Brock was ranked #1 on Sherdog for a little bit. This was after Werdum beat Fedor. I specifically remember that funny ass ****storm that happened because of it. Sherdog probably has the best rankings, and even then it's pretty funny to see who they have at certain spots. I think people put too much stock in rankings. Best bet is probably looking at their opponent's winning percentage or something.

Good thing there is something of a monopoly with the UFC. No more silly arguments over who is the best. You want to be the best, you go after the belt in the UFC. It makes the fights more entertaining that way.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Brock was ranked #1 on Sherdog for a little bit. This was after Werdum beat Fedor. I specifically remember that funny ass ****storm that happened because of it. Sherdog probably has the best rankings, and even then it's pretty funny to see who they have at certain spots. I think people put too much stock in rankings. Best bet is probably looking at their opponent's winning percentage or something.

Fedor holding the number one spot was justifiable (post-Pride). The UFC HW division was unproven and inconsistent. Velasquez and Dos Santos weren't even in the top ten on most lists. Mir, Cro Cop, Nogueira, Lesnar, Couture, Gonzaga, Carwin, etc were ranked ahead of them.

Good thing there is something of a monopoly with the UFC. No more silly arguments over who is the best. You want to be the best, you go after the belt in the UFC. It makes the fights more entertaining that way.

Eh, I prefer competition. It creates more excitement. I guess it's the reason why my interest in MMA is starting to dwindle.

 

[B]

Except they were in 2009. It was universal on every major MMA publication site. The highest Brock ever got was #3. Deal with it.

As I said, anyone who had Fedor still #1 by 2009 after 3 years with 3 fights against a middleweight, a 7ft giant freakshow fight & Tim Sylvia are idiots.

When you are regarded as the #1 fighter in a weight class, to remain there you need to be beating other fighters that are as highly regarded/ranked as you. When you don't do that, you slip down the ladder regardless of how good your record is or how good you used to be.

But hey, if you want to believe Fedor is even still relevant to MMA heavyweights even now after he had to take a drop back in calibre of opponent after he was beat by 3 guys that are actually still relevant to HW (& in Henderson's case LHW/MW) rankings, then who am I to crush a fanboys dream..

 

[pizza12]

When you are regarded as the #1 fighter in a weight class, to remain there you need to be beating other fighters that are as highly regarded/ranked as you. When you don't do that, you slip down the ladder regardless of how good your record is or how good you used to be.
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[DoomsdayApex]

As I said, anyone who had Fedor still #1 by 2009 after 3 years with 3 fights against a middleweight, a 7ft giant freakshow fight & Tim Sylvia are idiots.

When you are regarded as the #1 fighter in a weight class, to remain there you need to be beating other fighters that are as highly regarded/ranked as you. When you don't do that, you slip down the ladder regardless of how good your record is or how good you used to be.

But hey, if you want to believe Fedor is even still relevant to MMA heavyweights even now after he had to take a drop back in calibre of opponent after he was beat by 3 guys that are actually still relevant to HW (& in Henderson's case LHW/MW) rankings, then who am I to crush a fanboys dream..

Then clearly most of the MMA community is filled with idiots, except for you, of course.

Tim Sylvia was also ranked in the top ten when he fought Fedor. Big Tim was never cut from the UFC either. So, once again, Fedor was fighting a highly ranked opponent. Imagine that.

I've already explained to you that the UFC HW division was erratic and dissonant. Therefore, you have no case. Fedor fought Sylvia and Arlovski (both highly ranked opponents) and was on his way to fighting Barnett (another highly ranked opponent) prior to getting caught for PEDs.

You can huff and puff, but it still won't make a difference. Fedor was number one on every list and regarded as the best HW on the planet.

 

[TheVileOne]

Fedor holding #1 post-Pride would've been justifiable if he went to the UFC and beat Randy Couture and Brock Lesnar.

 

[Paroxysm]

Junior dos Santos-Cain Velasquez Heavyweight Title Rematch Planned for UFC 152

 

[TheVileOne]

Hope they stick with that and both guys will be close to 100% going in.

So many main events right now falling apart because of injuries.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Fedor holding #1 post-Pride would've been justifiable if he went to the UFC and beat Randy Couture and Brock Lesnar.

Couture-Fedor was suppose to happen. Randy really wanted that fight but you can't blame Fedor for that one either.

 

[TheVileOne]

I do blame Fedor for listening to his idiotic management company that had him losing in Strikeforce instead of the biggest stage possible and now he's struggling to get bum fights against Jeff Monson and the corpse of Pedro Rizzo.

 

[Project862006]

Erick Silva is for real he crushed brennaman and passed his wrestler test

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I do blame Fedor for listening to his idiotic management company that had him losing in Strikeforce instead of the biggest stage possible and now he's struggling to get bum fights against Jeff Monson and the corpse of Pedro Rizzo.

Dude, it wasn't M-1 Global that prevented the fight most recently. Couture left the UFC to fight Fedor, but Zuffa kept Randy 'frozen in time' (per se) with legal action.

 

[B]

Then clearly most of the MMA community is filled with idiots, except for you, of course.

Well heres how I'm looking at it, Fedor fought 3 guys after Pride ended I believe it was between 2006-2009. Fedor was ranked the #1 heavyweight in the world when Pride ended in my opinion.

So far I think we are both on the same page I would assume.

Now I want you to go look at the next 3 fights he had in those 3 years & then explain to me how any of those wins over those fighters did enough for Fedor to still be considered the #1 heavyweight on the planet.

Tim Sylvia was also ranked in the top ten when he fought Fedor. Big Tim was never cut from the UFC either. So, once again, Fedor was fighting a highly ranked opponent. Imagine that.

You can huff and puff, but it still won't make a difference. Fedor was number one on every list and regarded as the best HW on the planet.

I do like how you seem to believe journalists opinions on top 10 fighters are fact rather than opinion.

I can assure you, by 2008/2009 Tim Sylvia didn't figure in my top 10 heavyweights & that's all I'll say on that.

But again, if you want to believe that Sylvia was a top opponent at that time.. be my guest. But then if you believe that you probably believe hes still in the top 10 given that since the Fedor fight he has went 7-2.

I've already explained to you that the UFC HW division was erratic and dissonant. Therefore, you have no case. Fedor fought Sylvia and Arlovski (both highly ranked opponents) and was on his way to fighting Barnett (another highly ranked opponent) prior to getting caught for PEDs.

The fact is when Pride ended, the UFC had the best heavyweights & best heavyweight prospects in their ranks with the exception of 2 or 3 fighters that were with other companies in my opinion. None of which Fedor fought. Barnett, Overeem & Fedor himself probably would have been the 3 non-UFC heavyweights I'd have considered to have been in the top 10 at that time.

Fedor never fought Barnett as I said so it's irrelevant.

 

[B]

Junior dos Santos-Cain Velasquez Heavyweight Title Rematch Planned for UFC 152

Excellent, hope Velasquez comes in with the same intensity & focus he did against Silva. Dos Santos seems to come in very strong & focuses as well so if both guys are fired up this could be a fierce fight.

 

[TheVileOne]

Dude, it wasn't M-1 Global that prevented the fight most recently. Couture left the UFC to fight Fedor, but Zuffa kept Randy 'frozen in time' (per se) with legal action.

Fedor said he wanted to fight Couture and Lesnar when both guys were in the UFC. If he was serious about those claims, he should've made a deal with the UFC.

 

[E-Man]

I'm glad to see Mighty Mouse get the win. I can't wait for him against Benavidez. Should be a very good match. I can't put my finger on who to pick just yet.

And Aldo is hurt, so no Koch fight next month.

 

[TheVileOne]

Dang why are all these guys getting injured? I know the training at the super camps is crucial at the same time if they are training themselves so hard they are being taken out of their fights I don't think it's working.

 

[Project862006]

I'm glad to see Mighty Mouse get the win. I can't wait for him against Benavidez. Should be a very good match. I can't put my finger on who to pick just yet.

And Aldo is hurt, so no Koch fight next month.

i got joe pretty handily

he does everything better than MM and actually has ko power

 

[Project862006]

Erick Silva HL Video

i am on this kids bandwagon big time i see something very special in him

 

[Paroxysm]

Dana White says fighters should "take it easy" during training camp.

Thoughts?

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

Erick Silva HL Video

i am on this kids bandwagon big time i see something very special in him

Another Silva, how many are there?

Dana White says fighters should "take it easy" during training camp.

Thoughts?

I'm assuming he means by over training. Overkill does take its toll on the body when you don't give proper amount of time for recovery.

 

[B]

Dana White says fighters should "take it easy" during training camp.

Thoughts?

Do understand where he is coming from as alot of cards are now announced 4 months or whatever in advance & by the time they come round some of them look unrecognisable.

It's impossible though to 'take it easy' during camps, at the end of the day none of them are trying to get hurt it just happens. If they don't train as well as they can you then get fighters gassing in the middle of the 1st round.

 

[E-Man]

i got joe pretty handily

he does everything better than MM and actually has ko power

It's hard for me to see anyone beating Mighty Mouse so easily right now. He's so damn fast that it's hard to get a hold of him. It would be nice to see him taking this tourney being the underdog in both of his matchups. Benavidez is a damn good fighter though, so I can see why he's the favorite. In the words of Bart Scott. I can't wait.

Dana White says fighters should "take it easy" during training camp.

Thoughts?

Some guys who train like mad men and get injured a lot probably should do that, but that might have a negative effect on how ready they are for a fight. I bet that some guys need that hardcore camp. Some guys might not even be able to train at anything but 100%. Whatever it is I don't think that it's as simple as them taking it easy.

Maybe one reason guys are getting hurt more is that they aren't planning their camps right. Maybe they don't do much training between fights, then go too hard those 8-12 weeks of training camp and get injured. Even then **** happens. It amazes me how people are getting so upset that fighters are pulling out, and then wondering if the UFC shouldn't have given them insurance. It's a sport. People get injured. That's the nature of the beast.

 

[craigdbfan]

Erick Silva HL Video

i am on this kids bandwagon big time i see something very special in him

Damn. Beast mode engaged.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Does anybody where I can get my hands on the new UFC 148 tv spot that appeared for Silva on ESPN?

The music was freakin divine.