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[brainchild81]

Jones is the next LHW champ.

 

[CrypticOne]

Jones will be the next guy to have a spagetti'd leg.

 

[El Bastardo]

Doubtful.

 

[B]

Yeeessss!

This is still a very big rumour & could prove completely false.. however "word on the street" is that Thaigo Silva has had to withdraw from his fight at UFC130 with Rampage & apparently Rashad Evans is being lined up to fight him in a rematch.

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I hope this is true because I wanna see that punk Rashad get beat down for all the absolute crap he talks & did talk about Rampage "Oh I'm gonna knock Rampage out!" etc.. what a crock of ****, he ****ing hugged his way to a decision win & went into that fight with no intention of trading punches with Rampage.

I was saddened we didn't get to see Shogun beat Rashad down, especally after during one of his usual **** talking sessions on TUF he made it seem like it was an embarassment to be KO'd under Pride rules by a beast like Shogun... that being said I'll gladly accept Rampage shutting that fools mouth with his fists instead.

 

[El Bastardo]

I'd rather see Rampage vs. Thiago, to be honest.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm guessing the issue has to do with Thiago Silva's pre-fight drug test from UFC 125. It hasn't come back yet so I'm assuming that means he tested positive for something.

So Thiago Silva isn't injured like he claims, but something might cause him to get suspended and keep him from fighting Rampage.

 

[B]

I'd rather see Rampage vs. Thiago, to be honest.

I'd love to see it as well, but someone needs to take Rashad down a peg or two. Hes not as good as he thinks he is, he is however an expert at hugging people to death.

 

[TheVileOne]

I also want to see the fight, but Thiago Silva is likely juicing, so what can you do?

 

[E-Man]

I'd love to see it as well, but someone needs to take Rashad down a peg or two. Hes not as good as he thinks he is, he is however an expert at hugging people to death.

As the resident Rashad fan I have to remind you that Rashad is elite. As a matter of fact I think Rashad would have soundly beat Shogun because he's a really bad matchup for him. He also does more than hugging. Check out round 3 after he got rocked in the Rampage fight. He held Rampage down for about a minute and just laid some serious punches on him.

Right now he'd beat any light-heavyweight on the planet. Him shutting down and outclassing Rampage should've shown how good he really is, but people keep talking about that fluke instance when he ran into Rampage's knee on the takedown. It's okay though. One day you'll all be doing the Rashad dance of happiness. Our empty bandwagon will be filled after he retires and people realize that he has one of the best resumes in MMA at his weight class.

 

[El Bastardo]

Rashad wouldn't beat Jones. Or Anderson. So no, he wouldn't beat any light-heavyweight on the planet. Not like either fight would happen, but it's a point.

 

[B]

As the resident Rashad fan I have to remind you that Rashad is elite. As a matter of fact I think Rashad would have soundly beat Shogun because he's a really bad matchup for him. He also does more than hugging. Check out round 3 after he got rocked in the Rampage fight. He held Rampage down for about a minute and just laid some serious punches on him.

To be fair, Shogun is just as much a bad match up for Rashad as Rashad is for Shogun. Rashad's standup is his biggest weakness & Shogun's biggest strength. Hes only fought 1 'elite/technically skilled' striker that uses everything in his tool bag & that is Machida and he struggled quite badly with his ability to counter Rashad feinting/throwing.. considering Shogun then outcountered Machida with savage leg & body kicks.. twice, it would be safe to assume he could cause Rashad alot of trouble.. moreso that Rashad would cause Shogun on the ground anyway.

I'm being a little facetious when he says all he does is hug people of course, but the truth is he does little to no damage when he gets fighters on the ground. He doesn't have the technique to be able to keep a fighter grounded so he can lay in some damaging punches or elbows like say Jon Jones has done or Randy Couture has done in the past. He concentrates more on trying to control the fighter than actually finishing the fight much like Jon Fitch does.. hense why both get the reputation of being not only boring, but being blankets.

Right now he'd beat any light-heavyweight on the planet. Him shutting down and outclassing Rampage should've shown how good he really is, but people keep talking about that fluke instance when he ran into Rampage's knee on the takedown. It's okay though. One day you'll all be doing the Rashad dance of happiness. Our empty bandwagon will be filled after he retires and people realize that he has one of the best resumes in MMA at his weight class.

I'd definatly disagree with the first line if your implying that Rashad is the best LHW going.

To be fair it would be quite interesting to see a rematch between Rashad/Rampage, Rashad I believe took Rampage down in all 3 rounds but he did struggle to do so, actually drawing out long clinches in which he failed takedowns if memory serves..
After the fight Rampage said that he underestimated Rashad's wrestling ability & probably neglected wrestling prep in his camp, which is his own fault of course as it is MMA after all. However I think Rampage was under the assumption that Rashad, after all the **** he talked, was gonna try & KO/hurt Rampage rather than just outpoint him by grinding out a win.

I know it sounds like an excuse, but this was an active fighter fighting someone coming back from a lay off & visibly had some ring rust in that fight.. it would be interesting now Rampage looked like he had shaken off the ring rust against Machida & now knows what Rashad is like. It would be amusing to see Rampage wrestle & grind out a win over Rashad in the same fashion.

 

[E-Man]

I do find it funny that Rampage pretty much did to Machida what Rashad did to him. I don't blame him though because Machida is a guy that's hard to catch. You gotta beat him somehow. If he's going to be better striking than you then clinch and try to beat him.

The difference between Rampage doing that to Rashad is that Rashad has some really great defensive wrestling. You can take him down, but it's hard to keep him in one spot. Rampage will have to clinch and use his superior size and strength to keep Rashad in the same spot because with his speed and scrambling Rashad will weave his way out and reverse position. Rashad is quicker than Rampage and better at scrambling, so Rampage is going to have to corner him before doing anything.

Either way it goes I'll be happy because they're two of my favorites. I've been fans of them since Rampage was in Pride and Rashad was on TUF. People can complain all they want, but I love them both. I just prefer that they fight other people because I'm a little sick of rematches so soon. The light-heavyweight division is so deep that there are other interesting matches I want to see.

 

[CrypticOne]

I'd rather see Rampage vs. Thiago, to be honest.

Agreed. Well, I hope Rampage wins this one....

 

[B]

I do find it funny that Rampage pretty much did to Machida what Rashad did to him. I don't blame him though because Machida is a guy that's hard to catch. You gotta beat him somehow. If he's going to be better striking than you then clinch and try to beat him.

The difference between Rampage doing that to Rashad is that Rashad has some really great defensive wrestling. You can take him down, but it's hard to keep him in one spot. Rampage will have to clinch and use his superior size and strength to keep Rashad in the same spot because with his speed and scrambling Rashad will weave his way out and reverse position. Rashad is quicker than Rampage and better at scrambling, so Rampage is going to have to corner him before doing anything.

It was completely different though in the sense that Rampage's clinches were not purposely initiated. Both he & Machida were trying to establish their striking game & they just so happenen to end up in a clinched position.

Due to the fact that Machida likes to fight to the full extent of his reach & is a hard guy to punch alone, it was inevitable that for Rampage to beat him he'd have to close the distance & land either a punch or do some damage in the clinch.. which he did do.

Whereas in Rashad/Rampage fight, Rashad's goal was to smother Rampage & either take him down or wear him out against the cage.. point scoring if you will.

Either way it goes I'll be happy because they're two of my favorites. I've been fans of them since Rampage was in Pride and Rashad was on TUF. People can complain all they want, but I love them both. I just prefer that they fight other people because I'm a little sick of rematches so soon. The light-heavyweight division is so deep that there are other interesting matches I want to see.

I agree about the rematches, but sadly with the amount of injuries & people with bouts already set up at LHW, there aren't alot of options in regards to people in title contention..

 

[E-Man]

Well it looks like Hamill will be fighting Rampage instead of Thiago or Rashad. I'm glad it's no rematch, but I think it's a mismatch. Hamill is a tough guy though. Rampage is the better fighter on paper, but he may come in and surprise everyone by outwrestling Rampage. That's a very tough task though. Rampage looks like he'll be a heavy favorite.

 

[B]

Just saw this myself, I don't really like this fight.

Rampage is basically in title contention & Matt Hamill isn't, hes only had wins over Tito & Jardine since he took a savage beating from Jon Jones before he (Jones) was harshly DQ'd considering the fight should have already been over.

On paper this looks like a mismatch.. and it should be. Hamill is a good wrestler, but really considering Rampage is a good wrestler & superior striker he should be KO'ing Hamill.. but regular as clockwork because I've said that & because Rampage is one of my favoured fighters.. watch as Hamill ends up ****ing pulling off a freak win.

 

[E-Man]

I wonder where this puts Phil Davis. Hamill was the perfect match for him to see how far he has really come. A young guy with a lot of promise like that needs a gatekeeper like Hamill to see if he is really good. Hamill also needs guys like Davis because he's a good fighter but not going to be higher than he is now. They were perfect for each other.

I wish they would have given Rampage another "top 10" guy since he is elite. Since Lil Nog is locked up against Tito they could have given him Bader or even Franklin.

 

[B]

Has the fight been confirmed?

Hamill should be fighting someone like Couture or Davis as you said, not a fighter who is basically in line for a title shot.

Rampage tweeted "I'm not interested in Fighting Matt,I rather fight Rashad,I have un finished business with him."

I hope this doesn't happen, I'd rather see Rampage not fight at UFC 130 than take on a fight against a guy who is arguably outside the divisions top 10.. if Hamill were to win, which he is more than capable of doing, what type of position does that put Rampage in.. and Hamill for that matter.

 

[E-Man]

MMA Junkie reported it yesterday. I think that they are hit or miss on some things like this, but Rampage's tweet makes it seem like the fight is at least set to happen.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/22435/mat...go-silva-faces-rampage-jackson-at-ufc-130.mma

 

[El Bastardo]

Strikeforce Heavyweight Tourney = hahahahahahahaha.

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

Spoiler

Doctor stops the fight after the second round.

 

[E-Man]

[YT]cBons6TRxic[/YT]

 

[CrypticOne]

I don't know how this tournament decides the #1 HW in the world. Maybe Top 5, but that's it.

This loss for Fedor was his fault. He never changes anything in this training. I'm not surprised he got destroyed. He should retire or go train in the States, where he can evolve. You have to continuously evolve in this sport or you will be left behind. As proven tonight.

 

[B]

I don't understand why the MMA community are so shocked Fedor got his ass whooped pretty badly last night. He hasn't been the 1# Heavyweight since the day Pride closed shop. He hasn't fought anyone that was actually at their peak or mattered since like 2005/2006.

Fair enough in his Pride days he beat everyone they could put in front of him, but comparing him to todays heavyweights, there is no comparison. Cain Velasquez's 9 wins count for 30 of Fedor's for the simple fact that todays heavyweights are far more skilled & advanced than they were 6/7 years ago due to MMA's popularity growth.. the heavyweights were also alot smaller for the most part.

It's over, now that Fedor has lost twice, his aura of invincibility is gone & thus is the real demand to see him fight. It's a good job that he didn't goto the UFC to fight Brock when he was the champion because if you watch the fight last night, with a fairly skilled guy putting him on his back, he hand no answers. Dispite what people may say, Brock is a skilled guy at getting people down & skilled enough to keep dangerous guys down. Brock would have raped him on the ground & in turn the internet would have imploded.

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

We will never know.. Brock panics though when he gets hit, and Fedor has fast hands. If this fight would have taken place before or instead of the Carwin when it was suppose to I think Brock would have been shocked..