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Comics Official X-FACTOR Discussion Thread

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I bought my first X-factor comic the other day thanks to talk about it on the X-tra section. Issue #7 I think... might be totally wrong. Had Rayne and a girl on the front.
 
mightiest_mortal said:
hmmm... u know who i think wud be a great new memeber for X-Factor??


...another Jamie, that split off years ago and lost his powers on Mday.

Wud be mighty interesting.

One powerless member is more than enough.
 
mightiest_mortal said:
hmmm... u know who i think wud be a great new memeber for X-Factor??


...another Jamie, that split off years ago and lost his powers on Mday.

Wud be mighty interesting.

Well, I think he has enough drama for now with worrying about the different personalities his dupes could manifest each time he sends one out.
 
Cool comparison between the two X-Factor teams:



X-Factor vs. X-Factor
How does the roster for the new lineup stack up against the past?




December 15, 2005 - Launched in 1985, the original X-Factor was comprised of the original five X-Men. The series ran the heroes through the ringer. Angel lost his wings and eventually became Archangel, Beast lost his fur, then lost his intelligence and the entire team discovered their PR manager was, in fact, an evil SOB.
The original team's run couldn't last forever. When the five gave up the ghost in 1991, an all new and quite different X-Factor took over. Written by Peter David, this group has long been regarded of the highlight of the series. Though two more teams would come in as replacements, none came close to matching the chemistry of David's X-Factor.
With X-Factor #1 arriving in stores this week, we thought it might be interesting to compare Peter David's two teams -- past and present. Some of the names remain the same, but even those who've returned have a slightly different bent.


The Old X-Factor (1991)

Havok
The Leader
Havok always came second next to his brother, so it only makes sense that he would follow Cyclops as leader of X-Factor. Surprisingly, Alex Summers is a pretty uptight dude -- He's just not square like his brother.
Polaris
The Hottie
Like Alex, she's a bit of a second-stringer. She's the girl who wishes she could be Magneto's real daughter, instead of just a chic with magnetic powers and green hair. Her relationship with Alex is fractured at first, but the two do their best to rekindle the old romance.
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Multiple Man
The Cool Guy
Until this point, no one had really examined the depths of the human copy machine. Madrox grows exponentially as a character throughout the series and is the focus of the better storylines. He and Guido make for a hell of a comedy duo.
Strong Guy
The Comic Relief
The strong, stupid guy is a stereotype embraced by X-Factor. Guido's not so dumb as he may appear, but he is a little naive at times. His codename comes from his own inability to think of anything better. Amazingly, Strong Guy becomes a fan-fave.
Quicksilver
The Hot-Headed Jerk
He's faster than lightning with a temper to match. The former Avenger always seemed to resent being stuck on the less-glamorous X-Factor. He joined X-Factor after discovering his wife's affair and learning his powers were making him age. His personality is perfectly captured. Yup, he's a jerk.
Wolfsbane
The Mascot
The former New Mutant was, at one point, mentally bonded to Havok. Early on she showed her true feelings for Alex, who was busy trying to show Lorna how much he wanted to get back in her pants. The kid of the group showed she had a short temper and killer instincts early on.


The New X-Factor (2005)

Madrox
The Leader
A more mature Madrox has assumed leadership of the new X-Factor, who's ultimate goal is to discover what caused so many mutants to become powerless. Ironic that the villain is one of their old teammates. Madrox's dupes each share different facets of his personality, which should make for some interesting situations (see end of X-Factor Vol. 2 #1).
M
The Know-It-All
The former obnoxious beeyotch from Generation X is now the obnoxious beeyotch of X-Factor. Monet's powers are a match for any of her teammates, as is her gray matter. She should play nicely opposite the humorous Strong Guy. Expect sparks to fly between her and the other ladies in the group.
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Siryn
The Spokesperson
Siryn's stepped out of her fathers shadow and taken a strong role in the new X-Factor. She's more than just a pretty voice. This songbird has discovered she can modulate her voice to make others like her, even love her. Let's see how well that works on Monet.
Strong Guy
The Comic Relief
Guido was unceremoniously removed from X-Factor following a massive heart attack. He appears to be the one character relatively unchanged over the past few years. Certainly a few wrinkles in the old Strong Guy persona will show over the next few issues.
Wolfsbane
The Edgy Mascot
All grown up, Rahne has returned with a rather atrocious hair style, but the same tenacity we've come to love. We shall revel in her Scottish slang and quirky accent. Look for her to bang heads with anyone who ticks her off in the slightest.
Rictor
The Norm
He has ties to X-Factor that go further back than any other member. One of the troubled teens the original Factor saved, Rictor is now without power. As we've learned from the first issue, this disconnect is far greater than being unable to shake the ground. He adds a homo sapiens perspective to the group.
Layla Miller
The House of M Kid
We're not really sure what is up with Layla Miller. She's the all-new, all-spectacular mutant from House of M who revealed the truth about the alternate reality to all she touched. How will she play into this little drama? We'll have to wait and see.




The Stronger Factor

Peter David's original X-Factor has a big advantage. We've seen how those characters will develop. We can only guess at what's in store for the new X-Factor. Still, we can base some judgment on the merits of the lineup.
When David first took over X-Factor, no one thought much good of the team he'd assembled. Strong Guy? Polaris? Wolfsbane? But David proved he could bring the best out of these second-stringers. With that in mind, the new roster looks to be more dynamic. You have a number of very strong-willed mutants who think they know best fumbling around attempting to solve crimes. It's a recipe for drama.
If David's first attempt at X-Factor had one problem it's that the team never felt cohesive. Sure, it was fun to read, but it felt like six pieces from different puzzles that happened to fit together. At first glance, this team appears a bit more organic. Though David has assembled a team with identical personality hang-ups as the first -- a hot-head, a stick-in-the-mud, an angry self-loather, etc. -- there's a bit more depth this time to those personas. Would we rather be saved by a team lead by Havoc and Polaris? Probably. But which team would we rather read about? That would be the all-new X-Factor. Let's hope David can deliver. If not, the classic X-Factor tales are just a quarter box away.
 
I just have to say X-Factor is the true Melting Pot X-Team:

Half of them aren't American (Rictor - Mexican, Wolfsbane - Scottish, Siryn - Irish, M - French/Algerian).

They are reprosentative all different aspects of the Marvel world (Mutants, Human/Depowered Mutants, and the Unknown...Lila Miller).

The fact also that non of them have ever been on the MAIN X-Teams has granted the characters and the team as a whole a degree of ambiguity that i think makes this book truely fresh and new, and can't wait to see how everything plays out.
 
I'm pretty sure M is from Monaco, not France. Granted, Monaco is practically dangling off of France.
 
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X-FACTOR #10
Written by PETER DAVID
Penciled by ROY ALLAN MARTINEZ
Cover by RYAN SOOK
They have been a thorn in X-Factor’s side since the beginning, and now matters are coming to a head. In the first of a three part epic—“Multiple Disclosure”—X-Factor’s newest assignment causes them to once again cross paths with their arch rivals, Singularity Investigations. The result is revelations that strike to the very core of who and what Jamie Madrox is, especially when he learns that SI head Damian Tryp is responsible for one of the greatest tragedies.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99​
 
You know, I really hate reading solicits for comics that come out several months from now. Some of them have a tendency to give away plot points from past issues.
 
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Here's how Marvel describes the issue: [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"'Two Meetings, One in Person, One Not.' Think it's tough to convince fans that one of Marvel's mighty mutants was genuinely killed in action and never returning? Try convincing one of X-Factor's members, lost in denial over the death of a loved one. Meanwhile, Jamie Madrox has his first face-to-face confrontation with Mr. Tryp, the mysterious head of Singlarity Investigations...and let's just say it doesn't go very well for Madrox." [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]X-Factor #7 will be 32 pages and will cost $2.99.
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"Nostradamus reborn as Wednesday Addams", just perfect, I love it.
 
Curious that none of the A-listers feel it necessary to tell the guardians of Mutant Town what caused the Decimation. Of course, I'm still wondering why none of the people who actually know are doing anything about it, but I guess that's my problem.
 
Its not so much a not doing anything about it - simply that no-one can find Wanda to undo what's been done. Only a handful of people know about the HoM and to tell any others might be the undoing for mutants. If the world found out that a reality warping mutant re-wrote the world entirely, then re-wrote it again to remove mutants almost completely - especially when there's only like a four hundred of em now (198 being a relative value of course), then those four hundred would be hunted own and exterminated like rats for fear of one of em doing it again.

I like that they've ackknowledged the events in Genesis in a big way by the way - I'd like to see more regular contact with the mansion in the same way as the Avengers and FF used to chat over vid links about situations and get info from one another.
 
I get why they're not making it public knowledge. It's just that you'd think they'd put a little more effort into finding Wanda. She doesn't show up on Cerebro and, what, they give up? That's it? Have they even talked to Dr. Strange since House of M?

I mean, come on! Cerebro isn't the end-all/be-all of tracking people down. Hell, Magneto used to wear a freaking helmet that rendered Cerebro useless. Thank god Vulcan came back with a vengeance; otherwise, the X-Men never would've seen Charles Xavier again.

I love the X-Factor book. It's written wonderfully, and it dealt with the Decimation very well. However, my main gripe is that it's the only book that dealt with Decimation well. Every other book has either been ignoring it, mentioned it in passing before jumping into something unrelated, or used it as an excuse to kill a few dozen teenagers.
 
Manic said:
Have they even talked to Dr. Strange since House of M?

Dr. Strange showed up in HOM 8 saying he was fecked up and couldn't feel Wanda anymore.
 
chris moore said:
Its not so much a not doing anything about it - simply that no-one can find Wanda to undo what's been done. Only a handful of people know about the HoM and to tell any others might be the undoing for mutants. If the world found out that a reality warping mutant re-wrote the world entirely, then re-wrote it again to remove mutants almost completely - especially when there's only like a four hundred of em now (198 being a relative value of course), then those four hundred would be hunted own and exterminated like rats for fear of one of em doing it again.

I like that they've ackknowledged the events in Genesis in a big way by the way - I'd like to see more regular contact with the mansion in the same way as the Avengers and FF used to chat over vid links about situations and get info from one another.

Agreed. And God help Vulcan when he gets back to Earth Syrin will kill him. :O
 
Oh, cool, I'm glad they're acknowledging the stuff that's happened in Deadly Genesis. :up: And yes, GL -- Siryn will definitely kick Vulcan's ass if he returns. :p

"If Nostradamus was reborn as Wednesday Addams, that'd be her."

LOL.
 
Terry is in denial, but it's almost fourth-wall-breaking denial. She has to be one of the few X-teamsters to ever acknowledge that these people always think someone has died, and they're always proven wrong when they show up days to years later.
 
Oh, yeah, Terry's in total DEEP denial. I feel sorry for her. The video was a nice touch.

Anyway, the new issue was good. Some funny bits. Looks like Madrox's got himself a new enemy. I didn't see that coming; Madrox meeting with Tryp being a
dupe
. Not enough Rahne and M, in my opinion...

Guido: "Oh...crap. Oh, holy... I feel like an idiot."
M: "Go with the feeling."

Lol. :up:

Can't wait for the next issue.
 
Mr Lex Luthor said:
I didn't see that coming; Madrox meeting with Tryp being a
dupe
.
Wow. Seriously? Even though Jamie said he wouldn't, I figured he'd do it anyway.

What I want to know is why Tryp made that offer. Did the old Merlin-looking oracle guy predict that X-Factor would put Singularity out of business? Also, I found it interesting how Jamie made the comment about how Tryp's office has an almost ancient motif, and asked how long they'd been in business. It got me wondering... how old are the Tryps? And has Singularity always been an investigative firm?
 
I never knew Jamie's dupes could duplicate themselves. I guess so after this issue.
 
Colossal Spoons said:
I never knew Jamie's dupes could duplicate themselves. I guess so after this issue.
Oh, it's been like that since... uh... forever. There was a time when one of his dupes ran away and lived on his own for a few years. Created its own dupes and everything. When Jamie and the runaway dupe got into a fight, they each made about 20 dupes to fight each other. As it turns out, 40 is just about Jamie's limit.

His dupes can also absorb other dupes. If one of his dupes gets injured, it can absorb healthy dupes to heal itself.
 

Rating: RATED T+ X-FACTOR: THE LONGEST NIGHT PREMIERE
The Story: In the fallout from HOUSE OF M and following the surprise film-noir hit MADROX, a new mutant team is forged! X-Factor is an investigative mutant agency that includes Madrox, the Multiple Man; Guido, the Strong Guy; Wolfsbane, the shape-shifter; Siryn, the chorus girl; Rictor, the living earthquake; and GENERATION X’s Monet, the pompous witch. Drawn together in the heart of District X, this rag-tag band of heroes has a lot of answers to find, and fast! BONUS: A key player from HOUSE OF M will play a major roll in X-FACTOR! (No, it’s not Wolverine — sigh.) Collects X-FACTOR #1-6.
144 PGS./Marvel T+ ...$19.99

In Stores: 2006-07-19
 
Mr Lex Luthor said:
I didn't see that coming; Madrox meeting with Tryp being a
dupe
. Not enough Rahne and M, in my opinion...

I knew it wasn't all along, because I remember reading either in the Letters page one time or somewhere on the internet that they change the font of Madrox when hes talking and its one of the dupes. When the dupe was meeting with Tryp the font was very different than normal. Nice touch I think.

Also I totally agree with you on M. Shes the least developed of all the characters by far, hopefully she'll be focused on in an issue soon.

By the way, I have a question on Rictor. I think in the last Letters page David talked about Shatterstar and Rictor as if there was something going on there in the past. Did that really happen/when/what was going on exactly? I had no idea personally.
 
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