Comics Official X-MEN: LEGACY Discussion Thread

[squeekness]

What we need is for someone to flesh out how Gambit was changed back, just what did Sinister do and how did Remy feel about it before and after. It's like a whole big chunk of Gambit's life was just ignored.

 

[iamlegend]

What we need is for someone to flesh out how Gambit was changed back, just what did Sinister do and how did Remy feel about it before and after. It's like a whole big chunk of Gambit's life was just ignored.

Eh it was more like two weeks of his life were ignored. I'm totally happy accepting that Apocalypse's machines drove Gambit into insanity, and Sinister fixed all that with a cure-all.

Apocalypse has a history of making characters insane, and Sinister has a history of pulling off ridiculously stupid/impossible genetic feats, so that scenario is entirely plausible.

The Death saga and the build up to it was legitimately the worst characterization of Gambit in his history. I'm totally okay with it never, ever being mentioned again. They do this stuff all the time in comics.

 

[squeekness]

Oh, I am not arguing that the Death story wasn't the worst piece of crap ever conceived, I just think it is equally bad to have a presto chango fix done so far off panel it's like the whole thing was ignored. It's an opportunity wasted but then that seems to be much of Gambit's fate these days anyhow...

 

[iamlegend]

Also, this change will almost certainly bring Emo-Gambit back. We don't need Gambit pining over how horrible he's been like he did in Messiah Complex. It's awful, and appealing to NO ONE, not Gambit fans, not Gambit haters, not casual fans.

We haven't seen a consistently confident Gambit since like 1995. I'm tired of it.

 

[squeekness]

I'm tired of it too.

 

[UraniaChang]

First of all, I'd like him to explain what was his point in becoming Death in the first place.

 

[squeekness]

It was so out of character for Gambit to have volunteered exactly as he did. I think it would have been better if Emma gave him a psychic shove out the door or if he'd gone in as a spy or something.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Why the hell would Emma have done something like that? Seriously, I know you don't like Emma, but don't try to make her do stuff that is out of character for her, just because Gambit did something out of character.

 

[UraniaChang]

I see no reason for Emma wanting Gambit out of the way, they didn't have much interaction with each other but that's not a strong enough reason for her to kick him out mentally or even tempt with the idea, especially when there was no benefit or any deeper reasons for the X-Men.

 

[squeekness]

Wasn't the thing with Gambit right before Emma went a bit nutty, under the control of Cassandra Nova? That arc where they had a cover of Wolverine kissing Emma, but it turned out to be mind control or something. Emma wasn't quite herself and might have wanted Gambit out before he discovered there was something wrong with her.

 

[javi1024]

Wasn't the thing with Gambit right before Emma went a bit nutty, under the control of Cassandra Nova? That arc where they had a cover of Wolverine kissing Emma, but it turned out to be mind control or something. Emma wasn't quite herself and might have wanted Gambit out before he discovered there was something wrong with her.

true, but considering that story was under Whedon in Astonishing, itd very difficult to link those two events together. i have a feeling Whedon didnt really sit in on the X-Men coordination meetings with Milligan, Carey, and Claremont.

 

[squeekness]

True. I just base my thoughts of Emma on this pic:

She was there right before he walked out.....

 

[javi1024]

....whered that come from?

 

[squeekness]

The same issue where Gambit offers himself to Apocolypse to be a Horseman. Not sure the exact issue number.


EDIT: X-Men issue #183.

 

[javi1024]

i really wish gabmit wouldve kept that look- the black top over the blue pants with the brown coat (though i liked the red one better)- instead of going back to his 90s looks. real men DON'T wear pink. and what the hell is that collar thing. it kept all the elements of his classic look and just modernized it.

 

[UraniaChang]

He looked like he had wore a Hannibal's mask...

But the most weird thing is that Gambit went to Emma for answers.
If she actually did the mental kick to get Gambit out of the way, then she better tells Scott in Confession.

 

[javi1024]

He looked like he had wore a Hannibal's mask...

thats only because its a strange angle, and Larroca isn't very good with those. the black is his shirt, but he wears the same headpiece as he always has.

 

[Havok83]

Gabmti can now turn back into Death? WTF? First Warren, now him. When is Wolverine gonna start busting out in his old look

 

[Manic]

Who else has been turned into a Horseman? Is Sunfire still alive?

 

[Specter313]

Yeah he is, and still kinda rocking his look he got from it too. Polaris was in the last group of Horsemen as well.

 

[squeekness]

i really wish gabmit wouldve kept that look- the black top over the blue pants with the brown coat (though i liked the red one better)- instead of going back to his 90s looks. real men DON'T wear pink. and what the hell is that collar thing. it kept all the elements of his classic look and just modernized it.

I liked that look too. It was better than the magenta, which to me makes stealth just a wee bit harder.

Gabmti can now turn back into Death? WTF? First Warren, now him. When is Wolverine gonna start busting out in his old look

I think the only thing that changed on Logan was his clothes, really.

 

[UraniaChang]

So Apocalypse studied on Samuri attire as well, obviously.
Better than the SM attire he chose for Gambit.

 

[Manic]

I think the only thing that changed on Logan was his clothes, really.

As we've seen from Warren, clothes are apparently part of the whole transformation process. So let's get ready to see the Mighty Morphin' Former Horsemen!

 

[Havok83]

As we've seen from Warren, clothes are apparently part of the whole transformation process. So let's get ready to see the Mighty Morphin' Former Horsemen!

they can make up their own team of killers. A true Death squad. Lets not forget Caliban as he also was Death

 

[Specter313]

As hard as it is to buy Warren being able to sprout an entirely new costume out of nowhere, it's gonna be harder to buy Polaris breaking a full body spiked suit of armor out of her ass.