Comics Official X-MEN: LEGACY Discussion Thread

[squeekness]

Is this good news or bad? If he leaves this book is it back to limbo again? There's no garuntee that anyone in particualr is going to use him.

 

[Mystic]

I think it would be good if he did show up in another book. He hasn't been in "Uncanny" for a while. Don't get me wrong. I think he's great in X-Men Legacy and I'm glad he and Rogue have made up but it would still be good to see him in another book just for a change. I'm waiting to see what's going to happen to him in X-Men Legacy #229 though.

 

[OutcryX]

looks like my Horseman book might come about afterall...since both Gambit and Angel are having death re-occurences..Wolverine should be turning into a desert raider any day now....then throw in some Hulk, Polaris, Sunfire, Caliban and Ahab!..yes! gimme some of that!

me being hopeful

 

[Havok83]

I really dont see a fit for Gambit in any of the other books except maybe X-force but thats gotten a bit crowded

 

[squeekness]

Gambit isn't a killer, though. Not like most fo the others.

 

[Havok83]

Gambit isn't a killer, though. Not like most fo the others.

I didnt think that Angel, Warpath, Wolfsbane, Domino, Elixir were killers prior to the title, yet they are all in here. Didnt think Scott would condone it, yet he does. Really only Wolverine and X-23 have a history of mass killing. Besides, not all the team members kill, not that I think Gambit would be above that. Elixir hasnt and he chooses not to.

 

[iamlegend]

Gambit isn't a killer, though. Not like most fo the others.

While we haven't exactly seen Gambit openly slaughter enemies the way Wolverine has before, he's never shown an aversion to killing when necessary. And in his earliest appearances he contemplated doing in both Sabretooth and Psylock (an ally, at that) to protect his secrets.

So Gambit could fit in there. Especially with his Death person lurking... it could be used as big excuse to make him a bit darker.

And lets face it... Gambit's powers would be pretty lethal in reality. He makes stuff explode. That tends to get people killed.

 

[Havok83]

While we haven't exactly seen Gambit openly slaughter enemies the way Wolverine has before, he's never shown an aversion to killing when necessary. And in his earliest appearances he contemplated doing in both Sabretooth and Psylock (an ally, at that) to protect his secrets.

So Gambit could fit in there. Especially with his Death person lurking... it could be used as big excuse to make him a bit darker.

And lets face it... Gambit's powers would be pretty lethal in reality. He makes stuff explode. That tends to get people killed.

It would definetly give him an oppurtunity to not hold back, which the writers have been having him do for decades. The guy can do some major damage and alot more than simply charging and throwing cards

 

[iamlegend]

It would definetly give him an oppurtunity to not hold back, which the writers have been having him do for decades. The guy can do some major damage and alot more than simply charging and throwing cards

Exactly.

That, and he'd bring much more power-diversity to a very brawler heavy X-Force team.

And besides... it's been too long since Gambit and Wolverine have really teamed up and actually gotten panel time together. Their dynamic was fun back in the day.

 

[squeekness]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing the pair at play again. Anything would be better than Remy just moping around, mooning over boring ole Rogue.

 

[Havok83]

Id also love to see Gambit's interactions with Warren. Warren can once again transform into Death and Gambit's actions partly led to it in the first place. Now that Gambit has also gone through the Death experience, he can relate to him.

 

[squeekness]

^^ That could be a cool dynamic. If somebody good was writing it, that is. Carey couldn't handle it.

 

[Mystic]

Hmmm. I think Carey's a good writer and all but I don't feel as if he's been giving Gambit another credit. So far, he's just been at Rogue's side helping her (and may I add Danger) beat villains and stuff like that. I'm glad he's one of the supporting characters though. I just don't feel as if he's.....doing much. I'd love to see him and Wolverine team up again. Or maybe explore his "Death" appearance a bit more. I thought it was completely gone.

 

[squeekness]

Most of us did. I like that it lingers, only in that is should never be so easy to "take back" such a dramatic change in a person. It's not like you can just take a pill for it.

 

[Havok83]

Most of us did. I like that it lingers, only in that is should never be so easy to "take back" such a dramatic change in a person. It's not like you can just take a pill for it.

I hated how it was such a drastic change and then he simply goes away and comes back normal as if nothing happened. No physical, mental or psychological affects from it at all. They really should have explored it more and delved into how he overcame the transformation

 

[UraniaChang]

Maybe it's because the transformation is so drastic so they have no memory afterwards.

Especially when their clothes were completely intact.

I don't particularly think changing into Death will do Gambit any good - it's not like he being Death was really memorable. The only thing from the time he joined Apocalypse I remembered was his BDSM clothes.

 

[Havok83]

Maybe it's because the transformation is so drastic so they have no memory afterwards.

Especially when their clothes were completely intact.

I don't particularly think changing into Death will do Gambit any good - it's not like he being Death was really memorable. The only thing from the time he joined Apocalypse I remembered was his BDSM clothes.

I dont think he should have been able to turn back considering how horribly it was handled. Im more upset that it was simply glossed over instead of being properly dealt with. I mean they went ahead and did it, so they should have actually done something with it instead of pretending as if it never happened and now bringing it back out of nowhere. Warren dealt with the effects of his transformation for years. Sure he kept the physical look, but mentally it changed him. It brought out a darkness which he couldnt simply shake off and it took a while before he was able to come to grips with it and be the fun easy going Warren we knew from before. I was hoping that Gambit's experience would bring out a darker side in him, but he came back all lovey dovey and normal as if Apocalypse never touched him. Marvel dropped the ball.

 

[iamlegend]

I dont think he should have been able to turn back considering how horribly it was handled. Im more upset that it was simply glossed over instead of being properly dealt with. I mean they went ahead and did it, so they should have actually done something with it instead of pretending as if it never happened and now bringing it back out of nowhere. Warren dealt with the effects of his transformation for years. Sure he kept the physical look, but mentally it changed him. It brought out a darkness which he couldnt simply shake off and it took a while before he was able to come to grips with it and be the fun easy going Warren we knew from before. I was hoping that Gambit's experience would bring out a darker side in him, but he came back all lovey dovey and normal as if Apocalypse never touched him. Marvel dropped the ball.

The whole incident is a pretty easy timeline to crack...

1. No one at the X-Office wanted anything to do with Gambit after the BOA arc. Or really for the years leading up to the BOA arc... He was just there because fans wanted him there.
2. Carey, the only writer who had even the remotest thought of writing Gambit (and only as a foil for Rogue) didn't want him at the time because he was too busy obsessing with Rogue and Mystique.
3. The X-Office went with Sinister as the new big bad for their next major X-Men crossover tale (Messiah Complex) and realized that they'd sent Gambit off to hang with Sinister, and thus were going to be forced to use him.
4. Again, because no one likes Gambit, they decided that they'd just forget the BOA arc entirely for awhile and essentially rehash the whiny Gambit they'd been putting out for the past few years instead.
5. Messiah Complex ends, and again no one wants to touch Gambit. So he goes away.
6. Carey brings in Gambit to placate *****ing fans and again to be Rogue's foil... but has no real interest in the character and, again, goes with the whole forget BOA deal.

Now we have Gambit being able to go back and forth between Death and himself... which to me seems like it's setting up a retcon that'll presumably explain what happened during the in-between. That they're FINALLY getting around to this after Gambit appeared in:

A. A Movie
B. A Mainstream Video Game

Is not a coincidence at all.

 

[squeekness]

Well, if the movie gig finally gets them to deal with Gambit the way they should have, I won't begrudge it. It's a nice opportunity if someone with talent takes it and does something cool with it.

 

[Specter313]

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X-MEN LEGACY #228
Written by MIKE CAREY
Pencils & Cover by *TO BE REVEALED AT SDCC*
Emplate is back and he’s out for blood. More specifically, for mutant bone marrow. And with the X-Men still reeling from Utopia, he may have picked the perfect time to come calling.
32 PGS./Rated A …$2.99

 

[Havok83]

I didnt even know Bling had any powers. I thought her mutation was simply her physical deformities

 

[Manic]

I knew her skin was diamond-like, but I didn't know her powers were a combined rip-off of Emma and Marrow's.

 

[UraniaChang]

Danger looks weird in the last panel...

Maybe I should start picking up Legacy next month.

 

[Havok83]

Danger looks weird in the last panel...

Maybe I should start picking up Legacy next month.

Its actually good again now that its focusing on the X-men and not just one character

 

[Manic]

Acuna got the cable/wire-dreadlocks right, but the mouth is all wrong. Acuna drew Danger with proper lips, but she's supposed to have a mouth more like a ventriloquist dummy where the bottom lip/chin piece looks like it slides up and down when she talks.