Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh What A Rush! Of A Wrestling Thread!

[Hotwire]

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UUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH What A Rush Of A Wrestling Thread!

 

[The Batman]

Taker has given back quite alot. He has also offered to end the streak on more than one occasion and VINCE denied it.

For the life of me, i'll never understand how people are under the impression that the ONLY way for Taker to "give back" is to lose his streak. but whatever, dont really wanna get into that argument for the 1,000th time.

 

[Heretic]

WWE likely makes millions every year on The Streak with new tshirts and such...and a DVD collection The Undertaker: The Streak, chronicling one of the most famous wrestlers ever 20 years of Wrestlemania matches, with commentary, would be a huge sellers.

Meanwhile, 19-1 makes absolutely zero dollars for WWE.

He retires with The Streak intact.

 

[Wylie Times]

1.Cena vs Miz should be left alone, the Rocks presence has done enough damage to this so called fued.

Back when I kept saying Cena vs Miz was a lock for Wrestlemania all you guys did was complain about how it didn't have a Wrestlemania feel and that you'd seen this match and feud before and that it was predictable/boring.

Now since Rock has become involved you guys suddenly don't want him taking away from the match.....the very match some of you kept saying you didn't want to happen in the first place.

Taker has given back quite alot. He has also offered to end the streak on more than one occasion and VINCE denied it.

Taker gets stuck in some of the worst feuds but makes the best out of them. He constantly gets stuck with whatever big lumbering muscle head that Vince is trying to push at the time.

Taker has been stuck in matches/Feud with the likes of:

Heidenriech
Giant Gonzalas
The Great Khali
Nathan Jones
Diesel
Sid Vicious
Mark Henry
A Very Green Big show
A-Train


It's like they use Taker to test whatever new big lug Vince brings into the company.

 

[Hunter Rider]

If this was Star Wars, Nexus would be like Darth Vader plus 4 useless stormtroopers, and Corre would be the gang of cool bounty hunters from Empire Strikes Back.

Gold!

The only one that functions well in the New Nexus is Mason Ryan as a bodyguard type, which is perfect for him right now. You could drop the other three, especially Otunga.

I think with the way Orton is punting his way through Nexus the plan will be to whittle it down to Punk and his disciple/acolyte Mason Ryan.

Come to think of it, you're right about Cena. He does go there often. Apparently PG-rating still allows for gay jokes.

The problem is that I, like most of the fans who post here, step away from the TV and play Warcraft or something whenever Cena starts to cut a promo.

Pffft! speak for yourself! When Cena is on I snap my fingers and get some action from a hot Colombian chick while.........no wait...that's my imaginary life, I actually post here about how awful Cena's promo is while he waffles.

You are 100% correct about that; there is a hierarchy of discrmination that exists, which applies not only to the WWE but to American pop culture in general. For example, it is completely wrong to make fun of blacks and, if there were any in wrestling, jewish people, but for some reason gays, women, Latinos and Asians are still fair game.

Unless of course you're Triple H.

Barrett and Regal I understand...Booker T and R Truth I often do not. Call me racist, but that's how it is for me.

R Truth speaks too much slang and Booker speaks very fast at times.

For what it's worth, guys, I've encountered more homophobia on the Glee message boards than I ever(eeevaaar) have here.

That's because Kurt Hummel is not in the WWE.

Triple H was always going to get pushed. He was the scapegoat for the MSG incident because there was no one else to punish, but it didn't last long, as a year later they made him King of the Ring, and they kept building him up. His talent was part of why it happened but the booking was definitely part of it. He stayed looking consistently strong. And when he became WWF champion, no one took him seriously at first. He never beat anyone clean. It was only when he faced Foley and was put over twice that he gained credibility.

Actually he had beaten Show clean to pick up the title for the third time,and I'd say what took him to the next level as a character was when he turned out Steph with Vince lying knocked out at his feet, that was a major play in letting the audience know Triple H was the real deal and not just the next foil for Austin.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Once Taker goes 20-0 it's over, they release some merch and that's it. Taker loses to someone and cements them, they potentially make a star who can draw for a decade.

John Morrison, Kelly Kelly and Trish Stratus vs. Dolph Ziggler, Layla and Michelle McCool

On another board the other day I suggested Dolph vs JoMo would be the way to go for two guys who were this Mania's nearly men, saddling them both with a mixed gender match is pretty sucky though.

Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel vs. Big Show, Kane, Kofi Kingston and Christian

I'd rather Nash was in this match than Kane, he is still a heel for ****s sake and he's dull as man arse.

WWE United States Champion Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus
Gail Kim will be in Bryan's corner while The Bellas will be with Sheamus.

Hate to sound sexist but here is another match cramming women in for no good reason.

* Another undetermined Divas match will also take place. There will be no Money in the Bank this year

Hopefully Beth vs Eve for the title.

Back when I kept saying Cena vs Miz was a lock for Wrestlemania all you guys did was complain about how it didn't have a Wrestlemania feel and that you'd seen this match and feud before and that it was predictable/boring.

Now since Rock has become involved you guys suddenly don't want him taking away from the match.....the very match some of you kept saying you didn't want to happen in the first place.

Everyone still thinks it sucks as an ME for Mania, but if they are going to do it they may as well do it right, as opposed to cock teasing the fans with a match they wont deliver and in the process making the paper champion look even worse than he already has.

Taker gets stuck in some of the worst feuds but makes the best out of them. He constantly gets stuck with whatever big lumbering muscle head that Vince is trying to push at the time.

Taker has been stuck in matches/Feud with the likes of:It's like they use Taker to test whatever new big lug Vince brings into the company.

It's pretty much how Vince used to book Hogan, take a big babyface and find someone even bigger to be their foil, only Hogan was the champion draw and Taker was more like an Andre-type special attraction back then.

 

[Hotwire]

The Corre as a group is better than Nexus. Nexus is all Punk; without their leader, none of those guys really stand out. Whereas Corre has Wade Barrett, along with one of the most intimidating "big men" in the WWE right now, one of the better high flying workers, and an annoying ginger the fans love to hate.

If this was Star Wars, Nexus would be like Darth Vader plus 4 useless stormtroopers, and Corre would be the gang of cool bounty hunters from Empire Strikes Back.

Well, The Corre would be three cool bounty hunters and a tag-along wannabe.

 

[Metallo]

I'd rather Dolph and Morrison had a singles match against each other. It could steal the show. Seems like the only reason they're involved in the Divas nonsense is to get them in a match against each other.

And the only reason the Divas seemed to be in matches with men is so as many as possible can get a wrestlemania payday without all of them being thrown into a awful battle royal again.

 

[Nightmare]

I was looking forward to Morrison stealing the show in the MITB. I realize its a tired trend though and got old.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Well, The Corre would be three cool bounty hunters and a tag-along wannabe.

To be fair, Barrett, Ezekial and Gabriel would be Bossk, IG-88 and Boba Fett, and Slater would be Zuckuss, but you get the drift.

 

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[Project862006]

Cena vs Taker Next year bank on that

 

[venom892]

Yea that's definitely happening.If it does it makes zero sense for Taker to win.

 

[The Sage]

Actually he had beaten Show clean to pick up the title for the third time,and I'd say what took him to the next level as a character was when he turned out Steph with Vince lying knocked out at his feet, that was a major play in letting the audience know Triple H was the real deal and not just the next foil for Austin.

Forgot about the match with Show, and the Steph story did play a factor. But that still shows how important the booking is. If none of that had happened Triple H wouldn't have gone anywhere. Imagine the Rock or Austin entering wrestling in the present era. They wouldn't last. Imagine them having their mic skills on lockdown and reading scripts like Cena.

 

[The Sage]

Some people in the TNA Wrestling locker room have expressed great concern for Angelina Love in recent weeks.

Her female colleagues believe she has developed an eating disorder as they feel she has gotten too thin in recent months. Love, however, has denied the matter when confronted.

The latest issue of Power Slam makes note of Love's figure in its monthly news section with the following: "Angelina Love has steadily lost weight over the last few months for reasons I cannot explain. She had virtually zero body fat on her one year ago. Love, like the Bellas, did not need to need to do this..."

-- Angelina Pivarnick was not the only reality television star on hand for last Thursday's TNA iMPACT! taping in Fayetteville, North Carolina as former Survivor contestant Jonny Fairplay also attended the event. He was looking for work. Talk regarding his behavior was favorable and company officials appeared receptive to using him again. However, that's been in the case in the past and he still has yet to return. Hulk Hogan said they'll get back to him.

Fairplay was under contract to the organization in 2004 and 2005, but did little of note because the Jeff Jarrett led creative team didn't think he was talented. Company president Dixie Carter was said to be his major backer.

-- Hulk Hogan returned to TNA Wrestling at last Thursday's TNA iMPACT! taping in Fayetteville, North Carolina wearing a back brace due to his numerous surgeries. Hogan was telling people he's not dealing with as much pain as he has in the past. Monday on Twitter, a fan asked him about the possibility of wrestling one final match and he replied that he would like return to the ring by the end of the year. A company source reports that Hogan discussed returning to the ring at last Thursday's taping.

sources: Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Pro Wrestling Torch

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/301123722.php
http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/301123581.php

 

[Marx]

For the life of me, i'll never understand how people are under the impression that the ONLY way for Taker to "give back" is to lose his streak. but whatever, dont really wanna get into that argument for the 1,000th time.

WWE likely makes millions every year on The Streak with new tshirts and such...and a DVD collection The Undertaker: The Streak, chronicling one of the most famous wrestlers ever 20 years of Wrestlemania matches, with commentary, would be a huge sellers.

Meanwhile, 19-1 makes absolutely zero dollars for WWE.

He retires with The Streak intact.

Taker gets stuck in some of the worst feuds but makes the best out of them. He constantly gets stuck with whatever big lumbering muscle head that Vince is trying to push at the time.

Taker has been stuck in matches/Feud with the likes of:

Heidenriech
Giant Gonzalas
The Great Khali
Nathan Jones
Diesel
Sid Vicious
Mark Henry
A Very Green Big show
A-Train


It's like they use Taker to test whatever new big lug Vince brings into the company.

Exactly guys.

Cena vs Taker Next year bank on that

Yea that's definitely happening.If it does it makes zero sense for Taker to win.

SuperCena gains nothing from beating the Undertaker.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Forgot about the match with Show, and the Steph story did play a factor. But that still shows how important the booking is. If none of that had happened Triple H wouldn't have gone anywhere. Imagine the Rock or Austin entering wrestling in the present era. They wouldn't last. Imagine them having their mic skills on lockdown and reading scripts like Cena.

You're spot on, I mean the feud with Cactus did also cement Triple H as tough and credible in the ring. Nobody can expect to get over if they are booked like **** and not allowed to speak from their gut.

Some people in the TNA Wrestling locker room have expressed great concern for Angelina Love in recent weeks.

Her female colleagues believe she has developed an eating disorder as they feel she has gotten too thin in recent months. Love, however, has denied the matter when confronted.

The latest issue of Power Slam makes note of Love's figure in its monthly news section with the following: "Angelina Love has steadily lost weight over the last few months for reasons I cannot explain. She had virtually zero body fat on her one year ago. Love, like the Bellas, did not need to need to do this..."

Sad but it is very visible, especially with the two big bolt-ons amplifying how small her waist is.

-- Hulk Hogan returned to TNA Wrestling at last Thursday's TNA iMPACT! taping in Fayetteville, North Carolina wearing a back brace due to his numerous surgeries. Hogan was telling people he's not dealing with as much pain as he has in the past. Monday on Twitter, a fan asked him about the possibility of wrestling one final match and he replied that he would like return to the ring by the end of the year. A company source reports that Hogan discussed returning to the ring at last Thursday's taping.

Let it go Hulk.

SuperCena gains nothing from beating the Undertaker.

Actually he does, he gains what Hogan gained when he beat Andre, he removes all doubt about who is the man in the WWE now. Bottom line is the match should not go ahead if they even think of having Cena lose, if they must go 20-0 (Which is shameful) just stick someone in there like Kane or Big Show, someone who is irrelevant to the future of the company.

 

[Marx]

Actually he does, he gains what Hogan gained when he beat Andre, he removes all doubt about who is the man in the WWE now. Bottom line is the match should not go ahead if they even think of having Cena lose, if they must go 20-0 (Which is shameful) just stick someone in there like Kane or Big Show, someone who is irrelevant to the future of the company.

SuperCena and all of his He-Man powers will rebound. I'm sure of that.

 

[Hunter Rider]

SuperCena and all of his He-Man powers will rebound. I'm sure of that.

It's not about rebounding, it's about the fact Taker simply walks out beating the main man left to carry the company, that is stupid business beyond description and you know who'd be the first to say it? Mark Calloway, as he respects tradition. Surely even as a huge Taker mark you still see that if the streak is kept in tact it should not be at the expence of the single most important wrestler in the iundustyr.

 

[The Sage]

SuperCena gains nothing from beating the Undertaker.

It would add to his character and presence and makes the guy who beats him look stronger. Meanwhile, Taker absolutely gains nothing from beating Cena.

 

[venom892]

Then someone else should take the streak.If Taker retires undefeated it'll mean no one on the current roster is good enough to compare to the previous era.

 

[Slushy]

For the life of me, i'll never understand how people are under the impression that the ONLY way for Taker to "give back" is to lose his streak. but whatever, dont really wanna get into that argument for the 1,000th time.

The Streak is the best way to pass the torch and gives whoever ends it the ultimate rub. You can't trust a new guy in case he flakes out by injury or quitting, but it can't go to somebody like a long-time veteran. Somebody like Cena whose perfect because he's not a rookie and its not too late into his career.

Its perfect booking, if Undertaker wins, that's his legacy. If somebody defeats him, that's their legacy. Hogan defeating Andre immortalized him and it will have the same effect for whoever can beat The Demon Of Death Valley on the grandest stage of them all. Its a matter left solely for Vince decide on who should get it more.

My only beef with The Streak is its halfway composed of poor opponents and three slots being wasted on guys that Undertaker had already defeated. Imagine how much greater the Streak would be if Undertaker defeated:

Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania VIII - The end of Hulkamania for awhile.

Razor Ramon at Wrestlemania IX - The Bad Guy lets machismo get the best of him in this case.

Adam Bomb at Wrestlemania X - The Dead Man lays to rest a man of his size.

Bret Hart at Wrestlemania XI - It would've been the best match of the PPV, possibly the year.

Mankind at Wrestlemania XV - It would've been the perfect ending to their classic feud.

Big Show at Wrestlemania XVI - The American Badass overcomes his biggest opponent to date.

Stone Cold at Wrestlemania XIX - R.I.P. Austin's career.

The Rock at Wrestlemania XX - Rocky Maivia's final fight.

Kurt Angle at Wrestlemania XXII - MOTY

Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania XXVI - Y2J fails in his rematch against The Phenom.

Sting or Goldberg at Wrestlemania XXVII - A dream match for the ages on WCW's turf.

What could've been.

Cena vs Miz should be left alone, the Rocks presence has done enough damage to this so called fued.

Oh please. The feud was already damaged before The Rock came back. If anything, he helped salvaged this joke of a Wrestlemania main event.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Then someone else should take the streak.If Taker retires undefeated it'll mean no one on the current roster is good enough to compare to the previous era.

Exactly! It's so illogical to keep a phony win record in tact when the whole business is a work, Taker has been basically hanging around for one match a year for quite some time now, ALL he has to give back is that job. Triple H and his fued is hardly getting the response expected from the crowd so far because EVERYONE knows Triple H will lose, they are simply wanting to get to next year and see if WWE will do anything interesting as regards to the streak match.

 

[The Sage]

I don't see the problem with Taker going out putting someone over. Both Austin and Shawn did. Rock did plenty of times and if the Rock/Cena match eventually happens, I'm pretty sure Rock will lose that match too.

 

[Marx]

It's not about rebounding, it's about the fact Taker simply walks out beating the main man left to carry the company, that is stupid business beyond description and you know who'd be the first to say it? Mark Calloway, as he respects tradition. Surely even as a huge Taker mark you still see that if the streak is kept in tact it should not be at the expence of the single most important wrestler in the iundustyr.

I just do not want to see Cena fight Undertaker at Wrestlemania period. All I'm saying is that you cannot follow batista, edge, two matches with Shawn, and a second match with HHH with a third match with Kane or someone like Evan Bourne.

It would add to his character and presence and makes the guy who beats him look stronger. Meanwhile, Taker absolutely gains nothing from beating Cena.

I guess you could spin Cena/Taker as a modern Hulk/Andre...but Cena has already been hyped and hyped and hyped. He is very clearly the top guy in the company already.