Okay Hulk fans...what do you want in TIH?

[Obi-Ron]

Well, it's the first day of the new forum, time for a new discussion thread...let's talk about what you'd like to see in a new Hulk movie, whether it's cast, characters, whatever.

I'd like to see:
1) More nods to fans of the comics. One of the things that made Daredevil enjoyable to me was the little things fans would know. Stuff like DD writer Kevin Smith having a cameo, or John Romita being the name of one of the boxers Matt's dad met in the ring, or the classic Bullseye-stabs-Elektra shot.

2) I'm comfortable with the cast of the original, even though I'm not 100% sold on Eric Bana. He's turned into a big name actor, so his return shouldn't be too bad. Just get him a dialect coach please! To me, he sounded like an Australian pretending to sound American.

3) Use the actor playing Banner to play the Hulk whenever possible.

4)RICK JONES, B****!

Anyone else?

 

[superduperhero]

Definatley want the original cast.... Same composer.... (HULK music was amazing....especially the desert scenes)
Character development and, as you mentioned, nod to the comics.... that would be great...

 

[Boiiinng]

How about what I don't want...Leterrier. "I thought the first one was too serious." Great, another director who hasn't read a comic for the movie he's making. Hulk is a serious character with serious problems. This is gonna be some no-brainer/action POS like Transporter 2. Screw it.

 

[wobbly]

1) Reduce his size. 15ft was too much. The height he was at after the first transformation (around 8ft and no more than 9) was about right.

2) No made-up villain. Take one from the books.

3) At least one big brawl with a equally strong opponent in a built up area.

 

[Obi-Ron]

How about what I don't want...Leterrier. "I thought the first one was too serious." Great, another director who hasn't read a comic for the movie he's making. Hulk is a serious character with serious problems. This is gonna be some no-brainer/action POS like Transporter 2. Screw it.

As good as the first movie was, it tended to drag on in places. I think the new one should be a little more up-tempo, but I agree that there is a risk of the pendulum swinging the wrong way, and the result being something like "2 Hulk 2 Furious."

It's a little early to be throwing in the towel now!

 

[Parker]

Size reduction, definitely. The Hulk's massive stature in the first movie took too much away from the humanity. I'm hoping for Abomination to land the role as arch-villain, which I hear is pretty much in the bag. Also, we need to have incoherent dialogue by the Hulk. LEAVE HULK ALONE!!! HULK SMASH!!! You know.

 

[<(o_o)>]

I don't necessarily want to see Hulk fighting them, but I would like to see some mutant creatures that were created as a result of the blast at the end of the first Hulk movie. Like when David Banner exploded from being hit by the missile it could have of had an effect on the animal & plant life in the desert & mutated them in some way. Scientists could capture these creatures & do research on them etc & maybe Hulk & Rick Jones could set them free.

 

[YJ1]

I want Marlo, just to see who they cast.

 

[Obi-Ron]

Nikki Cox for Marlo!

 

[<(o_o)>]

Maybe Talbot could have miraculously survived the explosion in the first movie & returns for the sequel. He could have been in a coma since the events of the first movie & been through numerous plastic surgeries or could have been experimented on with the nanomeds & they repaired his skin damage.

 

[co2]

1) Reduce his size. 15ft was too much. The height he was at after the first transformation (around 8ft and no more than 9) was about right.

2) No made-up villain. Take one from the books.

3) At least one big brawl with a equally strong opponent in a built up area.

I can get on board with all of those.

 

[Ions]

1) Reduce his size. 15ft was too much. The height he was at after the first transformation (around 8ft and no more than 9) was about right.

2) No made-up villain. Take one from the books.

3) At least one big brawl with a equally strong opponent in a built up area.

Sounds good to me.

Nikki Cox for Marlo!

Nikki Cox FTW!

 

[Spade]

To make a list like the ones before me in sequencial order:

3) 15 ft. was just right. That's right, you heard me. When your Hulk is a creature that goes from human to beast due to the nanomeds within him over-replicating his every aspect, an increase in musculature or size is just what makes the uncontrolled factor of said transformation so exciting. You can have a comic book canon Hulk who's bogged down by plot extension and the suspension of disbelief or an entertaining Hulk, and the screen isn't willing to hold both. Size growth FTW.

2) Make the Abomination remotely interesting. I can already forsee the bashfest that is drawing in the comic book fanboys who want "The Incedible Hulk" to have a gamma bomb here, a Rick Jones there and a nonsensical half-hour Hulk/Abomination fight (over what one would suppose could be easily started over a disagreement as to which one gets the last cookie in the cookie jar). But if you want to actually make a film even vaguely that of the first Hulk's enduring storyline the villain has to be at least on-par with it; if anything, we need to feel that this incarnation of the Abomination is villainous or misguided by an outside influence enough to engage in a battle.

1) Don't lose Ang Lee's vision. The fans seem to be siding with David Banner's monologue about how Bruce was the flimsy consciousness that held back the 'real son'. What they fail to see is that the Hulk's story has always been about Bruce Banner dealing and ultimately coming to terms with the being within himself that is both the reason he can't be with his one true love and the reason why he can release his inner repressed emotions in a climatic transformation of power. Less Hulk and more Banner than what the fans wanted is what made the first one memorable. Don't deviate from the formula.

That's my wants in a single reply for this film. Though I fear this film will indeed deviate from the formula and continuity of the first film for the sake of the comic book realm, I can only hope that the folks at the helm do the right thing with this film.

EDIT: On a parting note, there is indeed one last thing I would like to leave as food for thought- outside of the gamma-irradiated hounds the Hulk kills nothing. None of the army soldiers die, Talbot kills himself as the Hulk only bounced back his round involutarily, and his father died of the gamma charge after his mass increase. Let's keep it like that.

 

[webhead731]

Absorbing Man isn't made up. They just changed him.

Alot.

I want a Hulk that is 9-10 feet tall like in The Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction. I like Hulk being taller than humans and how he can grab them with one hand no problem.

The movie to be light and dark but most of it dark. I don't want a kiddy movie.

Cool fight scenes.

Hulk to act very cool.

Good story.

Good CGI.



Plus more.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

To make a list like the ones before me in sequencial order:

3) 15 ft. was just right. That's right, you heard me. When your Hulk is a creature that goes from human to beast due to the nanomeds within him over-replicating his every aspect, an increase in musculature or size is just what makes the uncontrolled factor of said transformation so exciting. You can have a comic book canon Hulk who's bogged down by plot extension and the suspension of disbelief or an entertaining Hulk, and the screen isn't willing to hold both. Size growth FTW.

2) Make the Abomination remotely interesting. I can already forsee the bashfest that is drawing in the comic book fanboys who want "The Incedible Hulk" to have a gamma bomb here, a Rick Jones there and a nonsensical half-hour Hulk/Abomination fight (over what one would suppose could be easily started over a disagreement as to which one gets the last cookie in the cookie jar). But if you want to actually make a film even vaguely that of the first Hulk's enduring storyline the villain has to be at least on-par with it; if anything, we need to feel that this incarnation of the Abomination is villainous or misguided by an outside influence enough to engage in a battle.

1) Don't lose Ang Lee's vision. The fans seem to be siding with David Banner's monologue about how Bruce was the flimsy consciousness that held back the 'real son'. What they fail to see is that the Hulk's story has always been about Bruce Banner dealing and ultimately coming to terms with the being within himself that is both the reason he can't be with his one true love and the reason why he can release his inner repressed emotions in a climatic transformation of power. Less Hulk and more Banner than what the fans wanted is what made the first one memorable. Don't deviate from the formula.

That's my wants in a single reply for this film. Though I fear this film will indeed deviate from the formula and continuity of the first film for the sake of the comic book realm, I can only hope that the folks at the helm do the right thing with this film.

EDIT: On a parting note, there is indeed one last thing I would like to leave as food for thought- outside of the gamma-irradiated hounds the Hulk kills nothing. None of the army soldiers die, Talbot kills himself as the Hulk only bounced back his round involutarily, and his father died of the gamma charge after his mass increase. Let's keep it like that.

This pretty much covers all of my want for this sequel. Also i want the score to stay the same.

 

[webhead731]

Yes, me too.^

 

[Ceb-Man]

1.) Have the original cast return...
Eric Bana as Bruce Banner
Jennifer Connelly as Betty Ross
Sam Elliott as General Ross
2.) The original music
3.) The Hulk shortened to 9 or 10 ft.
4.) A spectacular fight with the Abomination.
5.) Keep the drama and serious nature of the Hulk.

 

[Obi-Ron]

2) Make the Abomination remotely interesting. I can already forsee the bashfest that is drawing in the comic book fanboys who want "The Incedible Hulk" to have a gamma bomb here, a Rick Jones there and a nonsensical half-hour Hulk/Abomination fight (over what one would suppose could be easily started over a disagreement as to which one gets the last cookie in the cookie jar). But if you want to actually make a film even vaguely that of the first Hulk's enduring storyline the villain has to be at least on-par with it; if anything, we need to feel that this incarnation of the Abomination is villainous or misguided by an outside influence enough to engage in a battle.

Agreed. Emil Blonsky needs to be shown as an evil, abominable human being, so when he turns big and green, there is some kind of psychological reason for the shape he takes (as established in Hulk with the Banners).

Less Hulk and more Banner than what the fans wanted is what made the first one memorable.

Say what??? Less Hulk and more Banner than what the fans wanted is what made the first one less successful than it could (should) have been. They even marketed the DVD as having "more Hulk than in the movie."

 

[Spade]

Say what??? Less Hulk and more Banner than what the fans wanted is what made the first one less successful than it could (should) have been. They even marketed the DVD as having "more Hulk than in the movie."

You have to remember that while that works for the comics because you know that both sides of the same person will be expanded upon in other issues, you need to establish that the person of importance is Banner. Otherwise you get a beat-'em-up film that would end up being forgotten in a few years. What Ang did was a good step in the right direction, by adding more depth to Banner so that when he has his 'hulkout' one can in turn see how the Hulk is not the blight Banner makes him out to be. The audience should be able to feel that both characters are important for a sequel, not that Bruce is just a catalyst or that the Hulk is the omnipresence. Otherwise you end up with the villainous Hulk mischaracterization that the film does not need to imply (see Ultimate Hulk for the success that treatment has made for his character). It creates drama that most films (superhero-films excluded) with this level of CGI forget to apply. The impression I get from most Hulk fans is that they wanted Bruce to have transformed once and never have transformed back, or to have made a lot of hulkouts with little to no input dialouge-wise. That doesn't add depth and makes the film tiring. And anyways, the parts when the Hulk did appear were rationed for a good reason. When you see him transforming it's not as if you've seen it 10 times before. You are interested in the visual appeal. Then, the Hulk was shown to be the thunderous force of nature he is supposed to be. Nothing too overtly silly, yet larger than life nonetheless.

I guess what I was trying to say with that statement is that it's better to make an enduring character rather than the cliche CGI creature you see enough to know is artificial and one-dimensional.

 

[Badfish40oz]

As much as I liked the Hulk, this one should go in a slightly different direction. Someone mentioned the Hulk being serious with serious problems. That's true, but there's a lot of "Nobody tells the Hulk what to do!" in there as well. I want to get into that.

Hulk's comics always had a little humor in them. And in the end, the first movie IMO WAS a tad too serious. We need some HULK SMASH! I know I know, "it won't come off well in a movie", bla bla bla . . screw that! I want to see the freaking Hulk! As he is in the comics! There IS a side to Hulk that is funny like that. He just wants to be left alone. He's the strongest one there is. etc. etc.

And Rick Jones is a must.

ADDED: Don't get me wrong, I don't want a comedy movie out of this. I just want it to be more like the comics.

 

[Weadazoid]

what do I want.

Atheon involved... the first film laid the ground work let the enemy come out of an atheon project. Abomination or Leader

The military being more prepared this time... The Hulk sliced through Tanks and Helicopters like a ht knife through butter... I want Mechs with a possible nod to the Hulk busters.... perhaps pilots Rock and Redeamer.

Take off from where the first film left off or at least if Banner starts off in America account for his time in south America.


We all want Jonsey in there as comic relif and as the coold guy...perfect role for Owen or Luke Wilson... but we all know the rummors about the character rights suppsoedly claimed by Captain America.

The Hulk to speak..... his Puny Human voice was....puuurfect, but it sucked that that along with take it all was all we got.

More of a nod to the fact that the Hulk is a split persoanlity..... and maybe just maybe a hint that someone sles is in there with Banner and the green Hulk... a nod to the Grey Hulk

 

[Spider-Fan]

I want to see Bana and Elliot to come back. I would like to see the movie not deviate too much from what Ang Lee did. By that, I mean not making it all action with no story just to be different. I want a healthy mix of drama and action. I'd like to see the Hulk not be too much smaller.

 

[Nivek]

1) Reduce his size. 15ft was too much. The height he was at after the first transformation (around 8ft and no more than 9) was about right.

2) No made-up villain. Take one from the books.

3) At least one big brawl with a equally strong opponent in a built up area.

 

[Blayton]

1. I want the Cast Back. If only Bana I will take that
2. The Abomination And I want him to be serious and scary.
3. A Couple of Bad Ass Fights with the Abomination
4. Danny Elfmans Return the mans great and since we won't get him on Spider-Man anymore we need him on this.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

To make a list like the ones before me in sequencial order:

3) 15 ft. was just right. That's right, you heard me. When your Hulk is a creature that goes from human to beast due to the nanomeds within him over-replicating his every aspect, an increase in musculature or size is just what makes the uncontrolled factor of said transformation so exciting. You can have a comic book canon Hulk who's bogged down by plot extension and the suspension of disbelief or an entertaining Hulk, and the screen isn't willing to hold both. Size growth FTW.

2) Make the Abomination remotely interesting. I can already forsee the bashfest that is drawing in the comic book fanboys who want "The Incedible Hulk" to have a gamma bomb here, a Rick Jones there and a nonsensical half-hour Hulk/Abomination fight (over what one would suppose could be easily started over a disagreement as to which one gets the last cookie in the cookie jar). But if you want to actually make a film even vaguely that of the first Hulk's enduring storyline the villain has to be at least on-par with it; if anything, we need to feel that this incarnation of the Abomination is villainous or misguided by an outside influence enough to engage in a battle.

1) Don't lose Ang Lee's vision. The fans seem to be siding with David Banner's monologue about how Bruce was the flimsy consciousness that held back the 'real son'. What they fail to see is that the Hulk's story has always been about Bruce Banner dealing and ultimately coming to terms with the being within himself that is both the reason he can't be with his one true love and the reason why he can release his inner repressed emotions in a climatic transformation of power. Less Hulk and more Banner than what the fans wanted is what made the first one memorable. Don't deviate from the formula.

That's my wants in a single reply for this film. Though I fear this film will indeed deviate from the formula and continuity of the first film for the sake of the comic book realm, I can only hope that the folks at the helm do the right thing with this film.

EDIT: On a parting note, there is indeed one last thing I would like to leave as food for thought- outside of the gamma-irradiated hounds the Hulk kills nothing. None of the army soldiers die, Talbot kills himself as the Hulk only bounced back his round involutarily, and his father died of the gamma charge after his mass increase. Let's keep it like that.

I'll agree with you on a lot of these points, however I also believe that the director should go. Any "johnny-come-lately" person claiming they can do the job, yet never read the source material does NOT deserve to helm a movie, let alone a sequel. (Brett Ratner may be the only exception). If Leterrier respected Lee's work, which he claims to have, he would understand the turmoil and conflict Banner was going through, and how Lee wanted to portray that, rather than just an action packed "Hulk smash" movie.

Seeing that they are introducing the Abomination, I would expect the producers to stereotype him as a goon for the Army, or misdirected individual that falls into his fatefull situation. I would prefer that later. I mean, if they're going change the continuity of the Hulk comic for this movie, which they already have and will continue to do, so long as there is a profit to be made, the very least they could do is stray away from the two dimensional and over-anticipated irony of the super-villain. And if they do intend to change the history of the Abomination, the very least they could do is make his story almost as sad as Banners.... Only he embraces his gift.

Otherwise, you and I are in agreement on everything else you mentioned.