Homecoming Organics or Web-Shooters?

[Johnny-Oh]

I can't get my head around Jesus style holes in the wrists that allow web to travel through his veins, he's basically hanging from his veins, gross.

Mechanical is the way to go but as DDS said it has to be handled well.

Its not in his veins lol

 

[LizardMan07]

Where does it come from then? His but?

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The wrist is connected to the....

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Where does it come from then? His but?

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The wrist is connected to the....

Well as far as I remember his butt wasn't in his wrists so no and like I already said, tts not from his veins either!!

Its like a gland that creates the substance of the web and then his able to shoot it.

 

[LizardMan07]

Where does he shoot it from? His wrists? Where is the web made? And how does it get transferred out of his wrist?

It's gross mate, icky if you will, id rather he just built them.

 

[Oscorp]

Mechs. No question about that. I can't see any good reason to have it organic again.

Mechs add a needed weakness to Spider-Man. He's super agile, super strong, super fast and has spider sense. He needs something to limit him. Otherwise he could just web the **** out of a villain and win that way.

 

[BrollySupersj]

I'm of the mind that since organic webbing was in 3 big movies, and appeared in the comics for a limited time, they're part of the charaters mythos. Maybe not extensively, but they're still apart of it. So it it's ever used in a cartoon, or some live action tv series, or even another movie, my mentality would be "oh, they're using that again, ok". Yes they haven't been extensively used like mechanical ones, but personally I don't think we should be suprised if they ever came back official. But that's just just me.

I also don't think having organics could take away vulnerability as well. Just have some villain of equal strength break his wrists.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

web out of wrists doesn't make sense at all. it didn't make sense in the Raimi movies, it didn't make sense in The Other. it would be nice if we could all forget they ever existed

 

[Spider-Aziz]

web out of wrists doesn't make sense at all. it didn't make sense in the Raimi movies, it didn't make sense in The Other. it would be nice if we could all forget they ever existed

It kinda do make sense in The Other, because [blackout]Spidey transformed to a full sized spider for a while, was pregnant with himself, and he break out of the body with new powers post the Queen's newly induced mutation.[/blackout]

If you read the crap I mentioned in the blacked out area, I'm sorry for bringing back bad memories.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

It kinda do make sense in The Other, because [blackout]Spidey transformed to a full sized spider for a while, was pregnant with himself, and he break out of the body with new powers post the Queen's newly induced mutation.[/blackout]

If you read the crap I mentioned in the blacked out area, I'm sorry for bringing back bad memories.

I read it, I'm just not sure where exactly it started to make sense
poor JMS. a lot of the editorial decisions forced on him back then were absolutley stupid

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yes but he isn't againsts the idea of organic webs like you are.

I never said he prefers organic over mechanical, stop taking **** out of context.

Don't curse at me, buddy.

You implied that Stan Lee wished he came up with organics 50 years ago.

You misled people and now you're backpedaling.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Mechs. No question about that. I can't see any good reason to have it organic again.

Mechs add a needed weakness to Spider-Man. He's super agile, super strong, super fast and has spider sense. He needs something to limit him. Otherwise he could just web the **** out of a villain and win that way.

Mechs also added an advantage.

Spider-man could change his webbing formula to help defeat counter villains superpowers and defeat them.

Organics over-simplify Spider-man's assortment of abilities and add nothing to the character but simplicity.

"He's just a spider-human hybrid isn't that unique and creative?"

No, actually it isn't.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Don't curse at me, buddy.

You implied that Stan Lee wished he came up with organics 50 years ago.

You misled people and now you're backpedaling.

Ummm not really, you just failed to understand my comment, that's on you. My point still stands

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Mechs. No question about that. I can't see any good reason to have it organic again.

Mechs add a needed weakness to Spider-Man. He's super agile, super strong, super fast and has spider sense. He needs something to limit him. Otherwise he could just web the **** out of a villain and win that way.

But when have we seen this being adapted ever? I think it happened once in SSM and in the TASM movies it was completely pointless.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Where does he shoot it from? His wrists? Where is the web made? And how does it get transferred out of his wrist?

It's gross mate, icky if you will, id rather he just built them.

He has glands in his wrists and that's where the web is created, I explained that.

 

[Oscorp]

But when have we seen this being adapted ever? I think it happened once in SSM and in the TASM movies it was completely pointless.

Pretty well I'd say. His web shooters didn't work underwater in TASM. In the same film, he was limited due to Lizard breaking them. In TASM2 he had to alter them to not attract electricity. Peter altering the web shooters or the web formula has happened several times in media. The web shooters have had a role several times in comics and in games, both as a limit (which is needed) and as a creative strenght.

So no, saying it was completely pointless in the TASM films, or not being adapted, sounds more like a missinformed, biased opinion than anything else.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Pretty well I'd say. His web shooters didn't work underwater in TASM. In the same film, he was limited due to Lizard breaking them. In TASM2 he had to alter them to not attract electricity. Peter altering the web shooters or the web formula has happened several times in media. The web shooters have had a role several times in comics and in games, both as a limit (which is needed) and as a creative strenght.

So no, saying it was completely pointless in the TASM films, or not being adapted, sounds more like a missinformed, biased opinion than anything else.

The only thing it felt organic was in the sewers, every other time it happened it was extremely convenient the way things turned out. Especially the time when only one of his web shooters was damaged.

I don't doubt it was used several times in the comics but I was mostly referring to live action films and tv shows.

 

[Oscorp]

The only thing it felt organic was in the sewers, every other time it happened it was extremely convenient the way things turned out. Especially the time when only one of his web shooters was damaged.

I don't doubt it was used several times in the comics but I was mostly referring to live action films and tv shows.

Well, that's a matter of opinion. I'd say it felt organic every time to be honest. We can only agree to disagree here.

So they shouldn't use mechanical web shooters, like in the comics, because they weren't used well enough in previous films and shows?

What exactly does organic webbing accomplish that films and shows have failed to succeed to do with mechanical web shooters?

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Well, that's a matter of opinion. I'd say it felt organic every time to be honest. We can only agree to disagree here.

So they shouldn't use mechanical web shooters, like in the comics, because they weren't used well enough in previous films and shows?

What exactly does organic webbing accomplish that films and shows have failed to succeed to do with mechanical web shooters?

I like organic webs simply because it makes sense that he would get the main ability from a spider when he gets the powers. It feels natural to me to be that way, I don't have to worry about him running out of webs because they're unlimited and it doesn't necessarly make him invisible 'cause he wasn't overpowered in Raimi's trilogy despite having organics. I also think if you really wanna put him in a disadvantage they could make strong characters like Lizard and Venom to hurt his wrists which would be brutal and bring an new level of intensity.

I don't hate the mechanical webs but I find it pointless to have them if they don't plan to use them in clever ways, I also hate how convenient it is for him to run out of web only when the script needs it. Maybe Im being too harsh on the concept based on how horribly executed it was in TASM 1&2 but if they go with mechanical webs and then forget about the disadvantages(or potential advantages) of it then there is no real reason for them other than comic book accuracy.

 

[DigificWriter]

Serious question: why does there have to be an 'or' in this equation? Why couldn't you have organically produced webbing channeled through mechanical web-shooter dispensers?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Serious question: why does there have to be an 'or' in this equation? Why couldn't you have organically produced webbing channeled through mechanical web-shooter dispensers?

What's the point of the mix?
Maybe you'd like to do it like Peter David's take on the first movie novel and use the device to increase the range of the webbing?

 

[DigificWriter]

Having the mechanical shooters would provide an actual story-based reason for the organically-produced webbing to be expelled from the wrists.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I like organic webs simply because it makes sense that he would get the main ability from a spider when he gets the powers. It feels natural to me to be that way,

okay, I get that. but spiders don't shoot webs out of their wrists. that is not the way it works. so if he would get the 'main ability' from a spider he should be swinging upside down

 

[DigificWriter]

okay, I get that. but spiders don't shoot webs out of their wrists. that is not the way it works. so if he would get the 'main ability' from a spider he should be swinging upside down

Hence why it would make sense to use mechanical wrist-mounted dispensers for organically-produced webbing fluid.

 

[BrollySupersj]

okay, I get that. but spiders don't shoot webs out of their wrists. that is not the way it works. so if he would get the 'main ability' from a spider he should be swinging upside down

We know it doesn't work that way, should it stop anyone for preferring it? Getting bit by a radioactive/genetically altered spider wouldn't give you powers too, just some nice cancer and death. It's all unrealistic no matter how you spin it (pun intended). It's just a matter of how far you take your suspension of disbelief. Mine goes far enough to accept organic webbing, regardless of how unbelievable it is.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

also, organically produced webbing would take away from the scientific genius aspect of Parker.... again! There is no need to dumb him down again after him being already played by a kid who looked to dumb to spell the alphabet in the previous two movies