Our "Space Princess": David Corenswet IS Clark Kent/Superman!

[Lily Adler]

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[Dr.]

Somewhat curious/amusing…

…the folks over at celebheights.com have been steadily downgrading Corenswet over the past few months. Initially, I think he was listed as 6’4”. (Corenswet, himself, seems to “identify” as 6’4”.) Then, it was 6’3½”. Then, 6’3”. And now, he’s at 6’2¾”. Near as I can figure, these adjustments and refinements appear to be driven by Nicholas Hoult’s estimated height. I.e., if Hoult is 6’2½”, then Corenswet is only slightly taller.

In any case, Corenswet is still a big man and ranks as the second tallest Superman — after Reeve @ 6’3½”.

 

[elgaz]

I keep seeing Superman set shots of Hoult and Corenswet and it's hard to tell, sometimes Hoult looks taller and sometimes Corenswet does. But for all we know they could be standing on uneven surfaces, have lifts in their shoes for certain scenes to accomodate camera angles, etc, so it's probably not a good barometer.

I think it's generally agreed that Christopher Reeve was a solid 6"4, and his two sons Matthew/Will are between 6"3/6"4 also. Corenswet looks to be in the same range in this pic at a premiere, in normal shoes and no weird camera angles. He's plenty tall enough regardless.

 

[flickchick85]

If Will Reeve is indeed 6'4" then I think David does look about 6'3" in that pic.

 

[donuts]

I love that they’re letting Superman come off human. He’s confident, but also, doing the things he does take a toll on him physically and they’re not afraid to show that. I love his little banter with Mr. Terrific in the new trailer.

That's the quality that I've been wanting to see the most in a new live action Superman.

Sick of pouty silent dynasty Jesus.

Whenever I hear the rhetoric about him being "boring" I couldn't disagree more. It was about time to see some personality from him again on the big screen.

He does show a healthy ego and cockiness in comics, which makes him incredibly endearing like a "cool older brother."

He's a righteous dude.

 

[flickchick85]

Whenever I hear the rhetoric about him being "boring" I couldn't disagree more.

To be fair, most people only know the movies, and in the only movies we've gotten him in over the last few decades, he has indeed been boring. Extremely. So I can't exactly blame people for having that perception.

Thankfully, as you say, he seems to be getting his comics personality back in this one, which is reason #1 that I couldn't be more hyped for this film.

 

[donuts]

To be fair, most people only know the movies, and in the only movies we've gotten him in over the last few decades, he has indeed been boring. Extremely. So I can't exactly blame people for having that perception.

Thankfully, as you say, he seems to be getting his comics personality back in this one, which is reason #1 that I couldn't be more hyped for this film.

Can't disagree. That's why it was so important that a new reboot got made which actually got / nailed the comic source.

And from what I've seen (less than most in here), Space Prince does a beautiful job!

(And the movie screams SUPERMAN to me)

 

[donuts]

I've been waiting for THIS Superman movie since the 1990s!

 

[Deck Rickard]

I've been waiting for THIS Superman movie since the 1990s!

Since you mention the 90s, I think we can ALL agree that if Nicolas Cage had played Superman back then, it would NOT have been boring. It wouldn’t have been GOOD, but it definitely wouldn’t have been boring!

 

[donuts]

Since you mention the 90s, I think we can ALL agree that if Nicolas Cage had played Superman back then, it would NOT have been boring. It wouldn’t have been GOOD, but it definitely wouldn’t have been boring!

Definitely not boring!

Seeing on the news that Tim Burton and Nic Cage were making a new Superman movie is when I first really got excited about the notion that "oh, they're bringing the character back to the BIG SCREEN after Christopher Reeve."

Wait is finally over. Almost 30 years seem to be finally paying off!

 

[Deck Rickard]

Definitely not boring!

Seeing on the news that Tim Burton and Nic Cage were making a new Superman movie is when I first really got excited about the notion that "oh, they're bringing the character back to the BIG SCREEN after Christopher Reeve."

Wait is finally over. Almost 30 years seem to be finally paying off!

Yeah that was back when I was really deep into my comic-reading years so I was sort of excited about it but also very unsure how it would have turned out. I loved Cage back then but I wasn’t sure how well he could work as Superman lol. I’m glad it didn’t happen but I’ll always wonder how much of a beautiful disaster it would have been. Let alone that Tim Burton is the WRONG director for any kind of Superman movie lol.

 

[elgaz]

To be fair, I do think Smallville and Superman & Lois went some way to adding more depth to him as a character too, and not necessarily being this stoic and sometimes serious individual as he was presented (in some ways) in the only 2 major solo Superman films of the 2000s, Superman Returns and Man of Steel. But I guess their audience reach is only so much compared to a cinematic audience.

 

[DKDetective]

I'm probably going against the flow here, but never really enjoyed Maguire in his Peter Parker guise, though he was absolutely fine when in the suit. He played him as too awkward and geeky IMO, long creepy smiling stares and uncomfortable silences around MJ when he couldn't find the words. Much prefer Garfield's interpretation of Peter.

Regardless, really enjoying what I've seen so far of Corenswet's approach. We definitely could do with a touch of that 'aw shucks' style when it comes to Superman and it looks like he's balancing it out nicely.

Pretty sure you are actually in the mainstream regarding Maguire as Peter.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I don’t know, I feel like everyone hates Tobey now but not when the first two movies came out. I think the third film and finding out how much of an A-hole he is (or was) in real life really soured a lot of people on him. Not saying that everyone loved him back in the day but I feel like people were a lot more positive on him pre-SM3.

 

[donuts]

Tobey is the goat!

 

[flickchick85]

I don’t know, I feel like everyone hates Tobey now but not when the first two movies came out.

That’s largely because he was all we had lol. Now that people have options to choose from, he’s less of a fave.

 

[flickchick85]

To be fair, I do think Smallville and Superman & Lois went some way to adding more depth to him as a character too, and not necessarily being this stoic and sometimes serious individual as he was presented (in some ways) in the only 2 major solo Superman films of the 2000s, Superman Returns and Man of Steel. But I guess their audience reach is only so much compared to a cinematic audience.

Yes, although I’d argue he was extremely boring in Smallville as well because Tom Welling has zero emotional range, but regardless, movies just have a much wider mainstream reach than TV shows, outside of those rare TV phenoms like Game of Thrones or Friends.

 

[donuts]

The thing about Smallville is that the series was goofy, charming teen superhero fun (with a great villain duo and supporting cast), that you didn't really care how little the star actually had going for him.

 

[jetage]

No people really did care how little talent Welling had, and how little he brought to the character.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah for the record I’m not saying Smallville The Show was boring - it was many things but not that lol - just that it didn’t do much to change the perception that Superman himself was boring, as he was literally the most boring character/performance on the whole show.

 

[donuts]

No people really did care how little talent Welling had, and how little he brought to the character.

Dunno, I remember it being fairly popular as a cheesy superhero teen show for the first couple of seasons, then general audiences stopped caring and die hard DC fans kept watching because of the comic easter eggs and characters appearing on the screen.

Personally, it lost me together with the general audiences (after 3 or so seasons?). It was a fairly fun pre-Superman teen take. The moment they tried to make it "more Superman" it lost its appeal for me.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

"Newest" superhero. To me, it's always been crucial that Superman was the first, and other superheroes came after him and most of them tried to idolize him. Realistically, Superman shouldn't be considered a surprise to people if they've already had encounters with aliens and other metahumans, plus Green Lantern which technically alien since the Green Lantern corps comes from outer space. Still, the fact that Superman is a "new" superhero and called "Superman"...well...to most average comic book movie goers don't even know that Superman was the first, particularly the ones that think Superman is lame, but it's a wonder they think the name is unoriginal when, Superman, was in fact, the original superhero.

Superman is arguably where the trend and term "superhero" came from, before the Green Hornet was even considered a superhero, he was only a crime fighter. If not for Supes, there may not have even been a Batman, and undoubtedly there would not have been a Shazam/Captain Marvel, Spider-Man and other heroes alike.

Even if Superman is not the first superhero in this movie (which I take personally moreover actually hate it) what is most important above all, I think, is that Superman has to be portrayed as the ultimate superhero. He needs to be the beacon. I'm not saying anyone has to like Superman better--to each their own--regardless of Batman's popularity, we lived in a time (starting in 2005 and 2013 onwards) where people thought the famous 'no killing' rule came from Batman, and thanks to Zack Snyder's Man of Steel, new generations were led to believe that Superman does kill, moreover never had any such morals such as the no killing ethic. That has really bothered me so much.

The fact that Batman--whether you thought of him as cooler than Supes or not--was ranked and voted as the 'best' superhero and morally superior and more ethical than Superman, was absurd. More popular, maybe, but morally superior than Superman?? Bull. $#&%. The problem with Snyder was that he only seemed to highlight Superman's physicality more than anything else--without exploring Clark's humanity, morals or ethics at all-like truth and justice. He just seemed to be portrayed as an incredibly powerful being without a specific purpose, but could cause a ton of damage and destruction.

There was a young guy I once knew who was a huge Superman fan, but didn't like Man of Steel, and debated with me that Superman actually does kills-which I said "No, he doesn't!" and he then showed me a clip on Youtube from the animated adaptation of, "Superman Vs The Elite"...but then I asked him, "Did you not watch the entire film?" He said, "No." I told him, "But Superman didn't kill them! (the Elite) That was the whole point of the story!"

Back to the subject of the new movie--out of curiosity, how long has Superman existed in this world already? It seems we were all previously led to believe it had been 2-3 years, but now it looks like he has only been a superhero for a few weeks, or a few months?? It might make sense in the case with Lex Luthor who clearly hates Superman's guts, so why would Luthor wait after so many years to try and destroy Superman's reputation and killing him.

The basic structure of DC comics is that it's impossible for Superman to be first superhero.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Dunno, I remember it being fairly popular as a cheesy superhero teen show for the first couple of seasons, then general audiences stopped caring and die hard DC fans kept watching because of the comic easter eggs and characters appearing on the screen.

Personally, it lost me together with the general audiences (after 3 or so seasons?). It was a fairly fun pre-Superman teen take. The moment they tried to make it "more Superman" it lost its appeal for me.

I was into it for a while but I checked out after the whole “Adam Knight” fiasco.

 

[Sawyer]

I watched Smallville the whole way through and, flaws and all, I can still enjoy it.

My biggest criticism is that it never knew when it was time to put away the things that no longer served the series well.

“No tights, no flights?” Fair enough for a young Superman show if you don’t want him to run around being Superboy. Make it about his self discovery. That makes sense in season one, but when we’re in season 8/9/10 and he’s working in Metropolis, running around with an S on his chest, letting people call him “the Blur”?? … mother****er, just be Superman already.

Lana Lang? Perfectly understandable love interest for the high school years. But when Lois enters the picture in S4, why the **** is Clark still pining after this woman in season EIGHT?? And why do they have to be forced apart (thus making Lois seem like a consolation prize) rather than just parting as friends?

I think there was just a point where the show was afraid to really evolve, even though is desperately needed to.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I watched Smallville the whole way through and, flaws and all, I can still enjoy it.

My biggest criticism is that it never knew when it was time to put away the things that no longer served the series well.

“No tights, no flights?” Fair enough for a young Superman show if you don’t want him to run around being Superboy. Make it about his self discovery. That makes sense in season one, but when we’re in season 8/9/10 and he’s working in Metropolis, running around with an S on his chest, letting people call him “the Blur”?? … mother****er, just be Superman already.

Lana Lang? Perfectly understandable love interest for the high school years. But when Lois enters the picture in S4, why the **** is Clark still pining after this woman in season EIGHT?? And why do they have to be forced apart (thus making Lois seem like a consolation prize) rather than just parting as friends?

I think there was just a point where the show was afraid to really evolve, even though is desperately needed to.

The show was originally supposed to last only 6 or 7 seasons and was forced to go longer because it was a cash cow.