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Eehhh GDT gdt could still do a media black out. Don't forget that these pics could've been taken early during shooting.
Plus if they really want to make make the internet explode with anticipation , just release a pic of the monsters
 
Am I the only one incredibly leery of the concept of a $250 M Guillermo Del Torro film? I think he's a genius, but I also think he's proven that he's not an incredibly commercially viable director. The Hobbit seemed like his big chance to go from cult favorite/ well respected director to big name. This just doesn't have that same potential imo.

You can all shoot me now. I know you're going to.
 
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Basically it has to be one of those things that everyone gets into, more or less like Whedon and Avengers. Yes, I have to use that as the scale to measure these types of flicks now. If everyone from 8-88 can get into it, and I mean everyone on the planet, it could more than likely do what it needs to financially. It's not based on a previous property but borrows the concept from a lot of them so we have to see.

This will be the flick that will decide if other studios want to give the go ahead to adaptations like Voltron, Robotech,and Gundam.
 
Basically it has to be one of those things that everyone gets into, more or less like Whedon and Avengers. Yes, I have to use that as the scale to measure these types of flicks now. If everyone from 8-88 can get into it, and I mean everyone on the planet, it could more than likely do what it needs to financially. It's not based on a previous property but borrows the concept from a lot of them so we have to see.

This will be the flick that will decide if other studios want to give the go ahead to adaptations like Voltron, Robotech,and Gundam.

Basically, if this film doesn't have amazing word of mouth, we're looking at John Carter 2013 here.
 
If you wanna be all simple about it, then yeah.

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You guys act like whether a movie makes money or not is all that matters.

We're talking about the guy who made Pan's Labyrinth, The Devil's Backbone, Hellboy 1 and 2, and Don't Be Afraid of the Dark. Those are all amazing films worthy of the highest admiration. I am stoked, especially since this is a director most known for his artistic vision and design. He's going to apply that to mechs fighting giant monsters? I'm probably going to be blown away.

I hope it is profitable because that means they will let him keep making big budget blockbusters but much like with Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World, just because people don't watch something doesn't mean it's not a great movie. Heck, that applies to John Carter as much as anything else.
 
You guys act like whether a movie makes money or not is all that matters.

We're talking about the guy who made Pan's Labyrinth, The Devil's Backbone, Hellboy 1 and 2, and Don't Be Afraid of the Dark. Those are all amazing films worthy of the highest admiration. I am stoked, especially since this is a director most known for his artistic vision and design. He's going to apply that to mechs fighting giant monsters? I'm probably going to be blown away.

I hope it is profitable because that means they will let him keep making big budget blockbusters but much like with Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World, just because people don't watch something doesn't mean it's not a great movie. Heck, that applies to John Carter as much as anything else.

Money isn't everything, if you don't care about seeing similar movies/ sequels.
 
and since when was don't be afraid of the dark considered an amazing film? I remember some less than stellar reception, also, del toro didn't direct that, it probably would have been much better than.
 
I think there will have been greater crimes than a great movie not being driven into oblivion with sequels and rip-offs, frankly...

That said, I don't think this one will have a problem making a sizable profit, so people who want that future, whatever, Robotech movie, will probably get it eventually. Even if it failed I don't think that would cause a moratorium on movies with giant robots. It's not exactly like John Carter where people are simply confused about what they are seeing in the trailer.

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and since when was don't be afraid of the dark considered an amazing film? I remember some less than stellar reception, also, del toro didn't direct that, it probably would have been much better than.

It was written by him and I assume he was in on the art design. It's a great film, what didn't you like about it? You're confusing people seeing it with it being good--I don't think it was a big blockbuster but it was still a great movie. There was no bad critical reception so you must be talking box office numbers...they're not the same thing. That said, I think it is one of those movies that "broke even" or made the minimum profit. I don't expect a sequel, but there's nothing wrong with the movie. It's good.
 
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Well other than Blade 2, GDT's most successful work was the Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth, his foreign language films.

Hellboy and Hellboy 2 both weren't substantial performers. Hopefully with the style they go for here audiences will dig it. I don't think we've ever seen a Hollywood movie in this type of subgenre before of this size.
 
Call me bold or silly depending on how you feel about it, but I do honestly feel like this movie not can, but will be a huge hit.

If they really are going for what they've been talking about with mech and monsters the size of skyscrapers, it's going to be a sight to behold, and that alone could make it an event movie.
 
if the GA thinks it's like transformers, it could be a hit.
 
i think battleship was like transformers and bombed. i think only Bay movies can look like Bay movies and make money.

this will be different IMO:
 
Call me bold or silly depending on how you feel about it, but I do honestly feel like this movie not can, but will be a huge hit.

If they really are going for what they've been talking about with mech and monsters the size of skyscrapers, it's going to be a sight to behold, and that alone could make it an event movie.
That's exactly how I feel.
 
Damn it I wish I new Ron, he seems like a real cool dude.

On the subject of this movie's chance at success, I think it will look pretty unique and the scale of the monsters and mech alone will just attract curiosity. The rest depends on the story and writing which GDT is usually solid with as well.
 
Am I the only one incredibly leery of the concept of a $250 M Guillermo Del Torro film? I think he's a genius, but I also think he's proven that he's not an incredibly commercially viable director.

No, you're not. I love the guy, but I'm still surprised he's been awarded this kind of budget and relative freedom. It wasn't based on previous box office performance.

This will be the flick that will decide if other studios want to give the go ahead to adaptations like Voltron, Robotech,and Gundam.

Yes.

You guys act like whether a movie makes money or not is all that matters.

We're talking about the guy who made Pan's Labyrinth, The Devil's Backbone, Hellboy 1 and 2, and Don't Be Afraid of the Dark. Those are all amazing films worthy of the highest admiration.

1. When you're spending as much as you are here, it does.
2. First two for sure, the rest, the Hellboys, fine work, but the last (which he only produced), highly debatable.

Money isn't everything, if you don't care about seeing similar movies/ sequels.

In the case of this project, it sure does matter.

Well other than Blade 2, GDT's most successful work was the Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth, his foreign language films.

Hellboy and Hellboy 2 both weren't substantial performers. Hopefully with the style they go for here audiences will dig it. I don't think we've ever seen a Hollywood movie in this type of subgenre before of this size.

Yes, yes, and yes.

Interesting times ahead...

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I think it's a valid point. Besides Blade 2, most of Del Toro's bigger budget studio work has not hit it out of the park.

There was some good stuff in the Hellboy movies but I found them quite lacking in other areas. IMHO, Del Toro never really quite nailed the tone and I think the other thing that bothered me was the romance between Liz and Hellboy. I just never really bought into it, not to mention Hellboy also being so childish. Del Toro instead of making Hellboy into average joe made him into more of a big teenager and it was just weird.

I think this looks like a super cool movie and all and I want it to be a success but Del Toro has never been on a movie this big or expensive before. You don't have any established branded characters like with The Avengers. And yeah we are basically talking about John Carter/Battleship size budget here.
 
I think it's a valid point. Besides Blade 2, most of Del Toro's bigger budget studio work has not hit it out of the park.

There was some good stuff in the Hellboy movies but I found them quite lacking in other areas. IMHO, Del Toro never really quite nailed the tone and I think the other thing that bothered me was the romance between Liz and Hellboy. I just never really bought into it, not to mention Hellboy also being so childish. Del Toro instead of making Hellboy into average joe made him into more of a big teenager and it was just weird.

I think this looks like a super cool movie and all and I want it to be a success but Del Toro has never been on a movie this big or expensive before. You don't have any established branded characters like with The Avengers. And yeah we are basically talking about John Carter/Battleship size budget here.


Battleship failed because A) It was terrible and B) Because the fact that it was based off of a board game is instantly eye roll worthy.

John Carter failed to generate interest largely because it was terribly marketed, for one thing it is titled "John Carter," about the most generic thing they could muster. Add in also there was a narrative in the media about this film probably being a failure before it was even released. I've heard from tons of people that they were given the impression that the film was bad just because of all of the rumors of a troubled production and that it was doomed to fail, only to end up thinking it was at least decent.

Also before advertising costs this film has a budget of 150 million, by no means a small film but its not exactly the most expensive film ever made.

Del Toros movies have never been hugely successful but he's also never really made a large movie. I doubt anyone ever really expected Hellboy to make 500 million dollars or something.
 
Considering this has no A-listers and they're gunning for a summer release, it will have to rely on script, heart, and vfx to get some Avengers-like notoriety. The biggest name in the cast is probably Elba, with maybe Perlman a close second.
 
Del Toro hasn't precisely received a huge budget project. This is his first, I believe. Films like Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth and Blade 2 featured mid-sized budgets.
 
I think it's a valid point. Besides Blade 2, most of Del Toro's bigger budget studio work has not hit it out of the park.

There was some good stuff in the Hellboy movies but I found them quite lacking in other areas. IMHO, Del Toro never really quite nailed the tone and I think the other thing that bothered me was the romance between Liz and Hellboy. I just never really bought into it, not to mention Hellboy also being so childish. Del Toro instead of making Hellboy into average joe made him into more of a big teenager and it was just weird.

I think this looks like a super cool movie and all and I want it to be a success but Del Toro has never been on a movie this big or expensive before. You don't have any established branded characters like with The Avengers. And yeah we are basically talking about John Carter/Battleship size budget here.


Battleship failed because A) It was terrible and B) Because the fact that it was based off of a board game is instantly eye roll worthy.

John Carter failed to generate interest largely because it was terribly marketed, for one thing it is titled "John Carter," about the most generic thing they could muster. Add in also there was a narrative in the media about this film probably being a failure before it was even released. I've heard from tons of people that they were given the impression that the film was bad just because of all of the rumors of a troubled production and that it was doomed to fail, only to end up thinking it was at least decent.

Also before advertising costs this film has a budget of 150 million, by no means a small film but its not exactly the most expensive film ever made.

Del Toros movies have never been hugely successful but he's also never really made a large movie. I doubt anyone ever really expected Hellboy to make 500 million dollars or something.
 
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