The Dark Knight Rises Parallels between TDKR and INCEPTION

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  1. TDKR2012 A FIRE WILL RISE

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    Many of Nolan's Batman films seem to draw elements from his other films, his most recent preceding TDKR was Inception.

    PRODUCTION

    - Many of the same cast members
    - Both had portions of the film shot in Los Angeles
    - First time we saw Nolan go to countries like India/Kenya, hotter/desert-like climate

    STORY


    Bruce Wayne/Cobb are men who have become lost in their original motivations, both these men essentially retire at the end of their films (at least so we think).

    - Alfred tells Bruce Wayne to come back into the world.

    - Miles tells Cobb to come back to reality.

    Alfred/Miles meets with Bruce/Cobb at the end of their films (Cafe, and Airport), seeing as they had made it.




    Any more?
     
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  2. MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja

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    CHARACTERS

    Obvious: Marion Cotillard's character stabs someone.
     
  3. Micromind Avenger

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    :funny:

    Ra's al Ghul visits Bruce in his dream / Hallucination and helps him connect the dots (Bane's back story) which brings him to reality similar to how Saito helps Cobb to realize what is happening in the dream and how to get out.
     
  4. Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep

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    I saw a gif of Eames putting a hood over his head in the car and then CIA *****e pulling the hood off Bane's head in the plane.

    Not really a parallel though, and the same can be done with RockNRolla.
     
  5. BlackFox Warrior

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    The open endings, that are ambiguous and open to interpretation.
     
  6. PSYLENTGuardian El Pollos Hermano

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    Does Tom Hardy really have a hood on in a lot of the movies he's in? :funny:
     
  7. obin_gam Sidekick

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    nah, inceptions ending is open to interpretations, tdkrs is not.
     
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    Both films end with the protagonists in a self constructed delusional mindset where the consequences of their actions no longer matter. :oldrazz:
     
  9. Dragon_316ca Sidekick

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    Michael Caine appeared in both of the endings.
     
  10. kthevs Civilian

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    I hope you're joking. TDKR's ending is not open at all, other than the John Blake stuff.
     
  11. Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep

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    As well as portraying bald prisoners, people who've robbed post offices, etc. He only really has one role, let's be honest
     
  12. VenomShock Civilian

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    Okay, I'm sorry, but this thread as a concept seems very silly to me. Of course there will be similarities, they're made by the same director. A director who made the Batman films out of the desire to make a good film and not a good comicbook film. That's the reason they, Spider-Man 2 and Superman The Movie transcend all of the rest of them, because they want to be great movies on their own terms that use iconic characters of our time, not simply because they want to show fans their favourite characters on the big screen.

    It only makes sense that they'd stylistically be similar to another film by him. They're Chris Nolan films. I don't get why that's such a topic of interest. It should just be common sense.
     
  13. Uroboric Forms Your Move, Creep

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    So? It's just fun to see little similarities between things. It's not like hatching some ridiculous conspiracy.
     
  14. VenomShock Civilian

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    It's got nothing to do with conspiracies. That's a pretty silly response, as I said nothing hinting at the sort.

    I just think it's ridiculous to draw comparisons where it's obvious comparisons are going to be. That's like drawing comparisons between Once Upon a Time in the West and A Fistfull of Dollars. Of course they're similar, it's the same director applying his same skillset.
     
  15. Mob1423 LE-HOO...SEH-HER!

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    - The shifting room where the reactor core is beneath seemed very Inception
    - The flooding of the reactor room just as the first dream is collapsing
    - The prison stairs that lead into the water seemed to have the Paradox theme Arthur described
    - Bruce taking on Blake as a sort of Apprentice just as Cobb to the student maybe?
    - Hardy's character plays a forger, Bane forges control to the people of Gotham
    - Bruce has to confront fear in order to Rise, Cobb has to Confront Maul to overcome her
    - The fake ra's al ghul appears to die (in Batman Begins) the same way Saito dies in the first dream with the roof collapsing on him.
     
  17. kvz5 HBIC

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    I don't know why but Bane and Talia's scene at the City Hall (especially when she's fixing his mask and you see Bane shed some mantears) reminds me a lot of Mal's last scene with Cobb (Bane is Mal and Talia is Cobb).
     
  18. Greens I am Danny DeVito

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    Eh.. those are even more far-fetched than the others.
     
  19. TDKR2012 A FIRE WILL RISE

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    awesome points everyone! and ya in that post about some of the effects/setpieces used, i agree,


    Water flooding a common space (first Inception dream, reactor room flooding)

    Zero gravity/Vertical setpieces (rotating hallway, plane heist prologue)

    Airports (Inception ending/before boarding the plane, Selina Kyle leaving Gotham)
     
  20. [rono] Alien Astronaut

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    TDKR's ending was open?
    I didn't think so. It didn't show everything. But you pretty much guess it in the following scenes.
    :yay:
     
  21. DrMylesOBoogie Sidekick

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    I've seen some reviews question the point to why Matthew Modines character is even in the film. His main purpose for me is that he's there as someone for Blake to bounce off. Similar to the dynamic of Hardy/Levitt in Inception.
     
  22. TDKR2012 A FIRE WILL RISE

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    Leaps of Faith.

    Inception: in the end, Saito/Cobb must believe they will come back to reality, they must shoot themselves

    TDKR: Leap of faith, literally. Bruce must have faith that, without using the rope, fear will find him, and he will make it across.
     
  23. BlackFox Warrior

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    So other than the fact it is, it isn't:doh:
     
  24. BlackFox Warrior

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    Considering the amount of discussion and interpretation on this very board I would say so yes:up:
     
  25. kthevs Civilian

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    But all that talk is about Blake. Bruce's arc is completed. There will always be discussion because we love the character and want to see what happens to him next, but that doesn't count as open to interpretation. We just want to know stuff like if Bruce and Selina are already married when Alfred sees them, or where they're going to live, or how they can afford to be in a place like Florence even though Bruce lost his money. Does he have offshore accounts? Did she save up from her thefts? Did Bruce and Alfred compeltely part ways at the end or will they see each other again. It's that kind of stuff. By your logic, every movie is open to interpretation because we almost never know exactly what happens to the characters after the movie ends.
     

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