Planet Hulk/World War Hulk

[wobbly]

Yeah, the same way Bob Reynolds let Bruce Banner punch him out.

I guess it can be argued that Sentry somehow chose to shut down their powers so Banner could deck him (Hulk was making a big point of the importance of choice to Sentry near the end of their fight) but until a writer up and says that's what happened it looks like they simply burnt each other out briefly and in human form Reynolds is an even bigger wimp than Banner is

With the Satellite blast though, Bruce knew it was coming, even told Stark to 'do it' then stood there to take the blast knowing it was the only way to stop his out of control power.

I don't call that Stark beating him at all, but rather Hulk taking the fall on purpose for everyone's good.

 

[DACMAN]

Yeah, the same way Bob Reynolds let Bruce Banner punch him out.

If he let him punch him out why is it he said that he even attacked the HULK? He said he liked letting go.

 

[DACMAN]

I guess it can be argued that Sentry somehow chose to shut down their powers so Banner could deck him (Hulk was making a big point of the importance of choice to Sentry near the end of their fight) but until a writer up and says that's what happened it looks like they simply burnt each other out briefly and in human form Reynolds is an even bigger wimp than Banner is

With the Satellite blast though, Bruce knew it was coming, even told Stark to 'do it' then stood there to take the blast knowing it was the only way to stop his out of control power.

I don't call that Stark beating him at all, but rather Hulk taking the fall on purpose for everyone's good.

I'd say Sentry burned out. The HULK turned right back into the HULK two seconds later. It was almost as if he turned into the HULK on purpose as to not kill Sentry (they were friends and such). Pak has even said that they even came together for one brief moment.

 

[Phenomenal]

Does anyone know where it says that the Warp core explaosion gave Hulk powers?

 

[CBG]

If he let him punch him out why is it he said that he even attacked the HULK? He said he liked letting go.

I suppose that the free punches in the beginning was the motivation for Sentry to let go. And when he did, Pak said that the Sentry was more or less intoxicated with finally letting loose his power, and thus didn't really care about Hulk punching him in the face.

Does anyone know where it says that the Warp core explaosion gave Hulk powers?

Multiple sources: Handbook entry, two interviews from Pak, and that lil' robot that chronicles the events.

 

[Zenien]

I'd say Sentry burned out. The HULK turned right back into the HULK two seconds later. It was almost as if he turned into the HULK on purpose as to not kill Sentry (they were friends and such). Pak has even said that they even came together for one brief moment.

Only because Rick Jones died was he able to revert to the Hulk. The writter is outright saying that the Hulk burnt out.

 

[CBG]

That's somewhat contradictory though.

Unless you mean that the Hulk burned out his power against the Sentry.

But, since he retains the capacity to become angry (and said capacity hasn't been hampered in any way), he still possess the potential to transform into Hulk, which happened because of Rick Jones' death and Miek's betrayal.

I suppose it depends on how you take "burn out".

 

[Zenien]

It would be the equivalent of Superman getting an emergency dose of yellow sun radiation after his powers were stretched thin. The Hulks powers just work differently than a regular hero, and it took exceptional circumstances to make him this powerful to begin with.

 

[CBG]

Well, not really. Just more radiation via terrorists attempt to kill him and more anger via personal loss.

 

[Zenien]

That's a dramatic simplification.

 

[herakles]

I'd say Sentry burned out. The HULK turned right back into the HULK two seconds later. It was almost as if he turned into the HULK on purpose as to not kill Sentry (they were friends and such).

AHH NO!!!! it took Maik attempting to attack Bruce and his buddy pushing Banner out of the way only to get impealed himself and angering Banner to become Hulk again in the process!

Pak has even said that they even came together for one brief moment.

And then it WAS Banner ALL by himself!!!!

I just LOVE HOW CONVIENTLY you forgot those little things dacman!

 

[DACMAN]

That's somewhat contradictory though.

Unless you mean that the Hulk burned out his power against the Sentry.

But, since he retains the capacity to become angry (and said capacity hasn't been hampered in any way), he still possess the potential to transform into Hulk, which happened because of Rick Jones' death and Miek's betrayal.

Exactly.

 

[CBG]

Well, Bruce transformed because of Miek.

If there was no one provoking Bruce (say that only the Sentry and Hulk fought it out, and no one else is there to affect the fight whatsoever), Bruce could have:

1) walked up to Robert, and kill him by whatever means available there.

or

2) induce anger in himself and transform into Hulk again.

Either way, Robert is unconscious and entirely at Bruce's mercy.

 

[Fading]

It's simple, we always see heroes go that extra mile. Spiderman gets his arm broke, he's tired from 10 hours of straight fighting, he can barely move a finger, then bam Green Goblin shoots Aunt May and Spidey's on his feet ignoring the pain because of his rage and he beats Gobby.

It's the same here, either Sentry shut down both of their powers with that burst, or they simply burnt eachother out. Then once in human form Reynolds was knocked out. Hulk only transformed back at the sight of a very long time friend being impaled, and the revalation that his new friend helped with the destruction of the planet he was ruled, and the death of his wife and unborn child as well. Hulk was instantly angered and transformed back, it doesn't mean he wasn't burnt/worn out from the previous fight.

Just as if Bruce had been knocked out instead and Sentry's wife

Spoiler

haven't read the most recent mighty yet, but I mean IF she was still alive, pretty sure she's dead after the last one I read heh

and she was impaled instead and it was revealed Miek actually created Void or some weird **** like that, I have a feeling we would have seen Sentry push past the pain and "Hulk out" too and go berzerk. Hulk was treated to a traumatic truth and the death of a friend, I'd be more surprised if after that he stayed as Bruce and started trying to slap Miek or something.

 

[CBG]

Well, while Sentry was too "intoxicated" with the feeling of having finally let loose, he practically allowed the Hulk to land several punches directly to his face.

 

[Darthphere]

If he let him punch him out why is it he said that he even attacked the HULK? He said he liked letting go.

Why do you think Bob thanked Bruce before he got decked? Do you Hulk fans know ANYTHING about context?

 

[herakles]

Why do you think Bob thanked Bruce before he got decked? Do you Hulk fans know ANYTHING about context?

What else do you expect from a Hulk fanboy???

 

[Darthphere]

You're right, my mistake.

 

[herakles]

I just that on 08 JMS write a angle with Thor vs Hulk! With the way Thor is written we actually see Thor fight his fight and not Hulk's??? If that is the case then Thor wins hands down!!

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Only because Rick Jones died was he able to revert to the Hulk. The writer is outright saying that the Hulk burnt out.

What does that stoopid writer know compared to DACMAN!?!t:

 

[Fading]

I just that on 08 JMS write a angle with Thor vs Hulk! With the way Thor is written we actually see Thor fight his fight and not Hulk's??? If that is the case then Thor wins hands down!!

I'd like to see a Thor vs. Hulk now myself. Hulk has won the majority of their fights, but I honestly don't see that happening now. It seems like Thor's being written to be smarter with his powers, not that he hasn't in the past, but he seems more willing to use whatever suits the moment rather than rushing in head on into a guy like Hulk.

Plus we've seen him lift Asgard with ease, and he caused a massive rift with a single pound on the ground, enough to seperate two waring ppl's. So IMO Thor's finally being written right again and is a different beast. Of course we'd have to see where Hulk's standing on the power scale now, I doubt Tony's device left Hulk with any of the residual radiation from the explosion since it outright powered him down, so Hulk should be back to normal savage levels.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Yeah, but years from now, Hulk fanboys will say,
"Yeah... but Thor only mercilously butchered the RED Hulk... so that doesn't count! HULK!!!11111!!!"

 

[herakles]

Yeah, but years from now, Hulk fanboys will say,
"Yeah... but Thor only mercilously butchered the RED Hulk... so that doesn't count! HULK!!!11111!!!"

HAHAHAHA

That is one to the true statements I've seen so far!!!!t:

 

[Phenomenal]

Multiple sources: Handbook entry, two interviews from Pak, and that lil' robot that chronicles the events.

You got the interviwes from Pak on this?

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Doun't count your chicks before they hatch....

You guys have a profound hatred almost of the Hulk but as much as a few out here exagerate Hulk's power levels quite a few take it the other way.

You justify Sentry's LOSS in the same way as others have justified Hulk's losses in the past.

This fight ended with the Hulk the victor. The writers meant to have it that way. Yes it took all his power to do so but he did in the end meaning and solely based on that comic the Sentry and the Hulk are equal (given they both burnt out and as it was a Hulk story, Banner punched out Reynolds) and a writer could make either one win or lose on any given day. Of course, this goes completely against Jenkin's story and is almost a retcon of it.

Regarding Thor vs the Hulk, there really is no justification for it and my theory is that Thor dumbs down for that fight every time because he wants to test his strength againstn someone who he knows is not really a villain, just misguided at times. If Thor used all his present powers he should be close if not beyond silver surfer level but against Hulk you will never see him doing so and as such he becomes defeatable.