Plot hole? (Spoilers)

[random_havoc]

So why would kill monger have bothered with the whole thing at the casino? Our the robbery?

If he already has access to Klaw which is his ticket into Wakanda, what was the point? I can't think of anything he gained. Other than an excuse for some cool scenes.

 

[AlluAllu]

That is indeed pretty weird. But the events made T'Challa look bad because he failed to secure Klaue. Maybe that's what he wanted all along.

 

[Flash525]

That's something conveniently left out of the film; when T'challa becomes aware of killmonger, and in turn realises that he is the one who freed Klaw, why doesn't he challenge that? Killmonger was only accepted into Wakanda because he presented Klaws corpse; T'challa didn't call him out on aiding Klaws escape in the first place?

 

[King_Nomarch]

It was to make T'Challa look bad because he succeeded where two Kings failed.

 

[wampa1]

I think it was to sow the seeds the doubt in T'Challa's abilities as King / Black Panther among the Wakandans by having him fail. It's arguably not followed through as much as perhaps it should have been but that was my take.

 

[chaseter]

Who told Killmonger about the new suit stored in the necklace and why wouldn’t Shuri steal both once they are accosted...they’re necklaces?

 

[Winterfell]

Who told Killmonger about the new suit stored in the necklace and why wouldn’t Shuri steal both once they are accosted...they’re necklaces?

He won fair and square so he was begrudgingly given the suit most likely.

She stole the necklace? I thought she had it on her because it was the only thing she had left of her bros.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Who told Killmonger about the new suit stored in the necklace and why wouldn’t Shuri steal both once they are accosted...they’re necklaces?

She referred to a design team in the story. I assume there was more than just Shuri who was aware of things.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Also, the one was coded for T'Challa. I don't think they ever coded the other one at all.

 

[Boy Scout]

So why would kill monger have bothered with the whole thing at the casino? Our the robbery?

I think the whole thing was done to 1) gain Klaw’s trust, so that he could have access to him and knowledge of his methods and partners in case he escaped the first murder attempt and 2) see if there was anything about Wakanda, the royal family, or vibranium that his father’s journal didn’t mention.

 

[NHawk19]

The scene allowed Killmonger to draw out Black Panther and assess what he was up against and in the end it built up his credibility when he succeeded where T'Challa and the other kings had failed.

What I find interesting is that the people take to him especially W'Kabi. Killmonger's father was the one who caused the incidents with Klaw in the first place. 10 minutes in you're trusting the son of a traitor . . . .

 

[B]

Something I didn't understand, was why did Killmonger break Klaw out of custody only to then kill him?

Killmonger knew where Wakanda was obviously as he still finds his way there after Klaw's been killed & he's Wakandan so why would they have refused him entry?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Something I didn't understand, was why did Killmonger break Klaw out of custody only to then kill him?

Killmonger knew where Wakanda was obviously as he still finds his way there after Klaw's been killed & he's Wakandan so why would they have refused him entry?

He was using him as a peace offering to get himself not killed on site.

 

[B]

He was using him as a peace offering to get himself not killed on site.

Why would he have been killed on sight though?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Why would he have been killed on sight though?

He's an outsider. Clearly Wakanda had a harsh history on people getting into Wakanda.

 

[B]

He's an outsider. Clearly Wakanda had a harsh history on people getting into Wakanda.

He's still Wakandan though & had that mark on his lower lip that seemed to prove he was Wakandan enough to challenge the King for the throne.

 

[Spider-Fan]

He's still Wakandan though & had that mark on his lower lip that seemed to prove he was Wakandan enough to challenge the King for the throne.

Yes he had the mark, but no guarantee of being killed before being able to show that. Further, handing over Klaw gained him loyalty before he was in the throne room. If he had just showed up without him, there would not have been any reason to show him loyalty. Think of it as he is showing up to the Casino with a bag full of cash. He is trying to win people over before he goes any further.

 

[B]

Yes he had the mark, but no guarantee of being killed before being able to show that. Further, handing over Klaw gained him loyalty before he was in the throne room. If he had just showed up without him, there would not have been any reason to show him loyalty. Think of it as he is showing up to the Casino with a bag full of cash. He is trying to win people over before he goes any further.

Why would they be just killing people though on sight like savages who approach Wakanda? Let alone those that speak the language & claim to be from the country without any form of questioning. They gave him the time to explain what was in the bag, so surely they'd have given him to identify himself before either welcoming him or turning him away.

I guess your right though as it did win over W'Kabi's loyalty as he wanted Klaw dead, to me though it would have made more sense if he needed Klaw to show him where Wakanda was, then once they're in Wakanda or once he knows where it is, then kill him before turning the corpse over as a gift/offering.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Why would they be just killing people though on sight like savages who approach Wakanda? Let alone those that speak the language & claim to be from the country without any form of questioning. They gave him the time to explain what was in the bag, so surely they'd have given him to identify himself before either welcoming him or turning him away.

I guess your right though as it did win over W'Kabi's loyalty as he wanted Klaw dead, to me though it would have made more sense if he needed Klaw to show him where Wakanda was, then once they're in Wakanda or once he knows where it is, then kill him before turning the corpse over as a gift/offering.

The MCU has made a huge point of showing getting out of Wakanda is a big deal. That says people very seldom leave there. What else would we assume happens to them?

I think the gifting worked better for me.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Why would they be just killing people though on sight like savages who approach Wakanda? Let alone those that speak the language & claim to be from the country without any form of questioning. They gave him the time to explain what was in the bag, so surely they'd have given him to identify himself before either welcoming him or turning him away.

I guess your right though as it did win over W'Kabi's loyalty as he wanted Klaw dead, to me though it would have made more sense if he needed Klaw to show him where Wakanda was, then once they're in Wakanda or once he knows where it is, then kill him before turning the corpse over as a gift/offering.

I would throw out the kill border crosser on sight and keep that it was his ticket to having a royal audience and giving his claim to be a legal challenger for the throne.

And I agree it was also so he would have a tribal base for the challenge as was not alone without someone to speak in support of him so that the new king could not ignore him like the previous king did.

 

[Spiderine]

So why would kill monger have bothered with the whole thing at the casino? Our the robbery?

If he already has access to Klaw which is his ticket into Wakanda, what was the point? I can't think of anything he gained. Other than an excuse for some cool scenes.

Kilmonger was originally working with Everett. It was all supposed to be a set up. Everett was buying the Vibranium. Of course Monger had his own plans. Kill Klaw claim the body and take it to Wakanda and make Tchalla look like a failure. Gain some support and claim the throne. He believed he could beat him in combat.

But Kilmonger was one of Everett boys.

 

[DeadStroke]

The scene allowed Killmonger to draw out Black Panther and assess what he was up against and in the end it built up his credibility when he succeeded where T'Challa and the other kings had failed.

What I find interesting is that the people take to him especially W'Kabi. Killmonger's father was the one who caused the incidents with Klaw in the first place. 10 minutes in you're trusting the son of a traitor . . . .

He never knew he was the son of a traitor. Only T'Chaka and Zuri knew the secret. T'Challa refused to out N'Jobu as a traitor to protect his uncle's legacy as well.

 

[Zyraquis]

So why would kill monger have bothered with the whole thing at the casino? Our the robbery?

If he already has access to Klaw which is his ticket into Wakanda, what was the point? I can't think of anything he gained. Other than an excuse for some cool scenes.

My simple mind when I was seeing the movie is that Erik needed a private jet with Klaue around so he could kill him, take the body on board and fly right to the doorstep of the border tribe. I reckoned checking in a dead body on Air Wakanda could raise more issues than an overweight charge. Or killing Klaue somewhere else, charter a plane, then transport the body to the plane could be rather troublesome.

He might also need the vibrainum-for-diamond trade to happen to finance the logistics, like chartering the plane. That tiny little old plane was not going to fly direct from Busan to Africa, a refuel and two would have to be arranged somewhere else, in the dark without anyone asking too many questions, since he was probably wanted by the Interpol already for the London museum massacre stunt and with a dead body on the plane.

I don’t know, I’m not going to overthink this one since there could be many explanations.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

Something I didn't get was how do you reconcile the portrayal of Wakanda's foreign relations/public image with their portrayal in Civil War.

Wakandan aid workers were in Lagos, they were killed, which spurred T'Chakka to back the Sokovia Accords. The aid workers was a burgeoning effort for Wakanda to be less isolationist. Also, sending aid to other countries isn't something a supposed "poor" country would/could be doing.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Something I didn't get was how do you reconcile the portrayal of Wakanda's foreign relations/public image with their portrayal in Civil War.

Wakandan aid workers were in Lagos, they were killed, which spurred T'Chakka to back the Sokovia Accords. The aid workers was a burgeoning effort for Wakanda to be less isolationist. Also, sending aid to other countries isn't something a supposed "poor" country would/could be doing.

But it does happen, especially with major religions in competition. With actual low level wars going on many poor but relatively stable countries have their citizens across international borders teaching and running medical and public works ministries