Predict when the 2nd trailer will be out

[Willie Lumpkin]

Grimm Salvage
Cornfields
Reed wide-eyed in the Baxter Building as an adult (not child)
'Pods' taking explorers to the N-Zone (for two distinct missions)
Ben playing baseball
Generals sitting around a conference table with schematics for the pods
People in spacesuits clawing at the ground
Ben breaking out of a block of rock
Containment suits
Doom walking down a hallway filled with soldiers
Doom strapped to a table

Everything in the trailer

. . . were things that weren't in UFF.

 

[Dasher10]

The Fantastic Four trailer revealed a lot actually if you know what your looking at

About plot or that it's based on UFF? Yes. About characterization? No.

With FF, character is more important than plot. I want to know if Trank got the characters right. None of the cast have said anything about what their characters are like. We just got little tidbits like Sue is adopted and Doom starts as a programmer but that's still plot related and has nothing to do with their character. I'd want to see somebody describe their character's personality in three words. That's all I'm asking for which isn't much.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Grimm Salvage
Cornfields
Reed wide-eyed in the Baxter Building as an adult (not child)
'Pods' taking explorers to the N-Zone (for two distinct missions)
Ben playing baseball
Generals sitting around a conference table with schematics for the pods
People in spacesuits clawing at the ground
Ben breaking out of a block of rock
Containment suits
Doom walking down a hallway filled with soldiers
Doom strapped to a table

Everything in the trailer

. . . were things that weren't in UFF.

I saw somethings differently.

Cause in the UFF Franklin was the head of the Think Tank recruiting Reed and here he's overseeing the mission so he's likely heading the Baxter Institute.

Doom was already a scientist in the Think Tank so him being in the suits means he's apart of the Baxter Institute like the UFF.

And the Think Tank UFF was a militarized government institute unlike the 616 so seeing the military made me think it shares that with Ultimate version.


I could be wrong. Same way people assumed Doom was going to get powers in the same accident as the 4 yet the two missions point to something else.

 

[pavlov]

Grimm Salvage
Cornfields
Reed wide-eyed in the Baxter Building as an adult (not child)
'Pods' taking explorers to the N-Zone (for two distinct missions)
Ben playing baseball
Generals sitting around a conference table with schematics for the pods
People in spacesuits clawing at the ground
Ben breaking out of a block of rock
Containment suits
Doom walking down a hallway filled with soldiers
Doom strapped to a table

Everything in the trailer

. . . were things that weren't in UFF.

Oh, I thought we were talking about the essential similarities.

Again, this is film. I don't know why some people are expecting a page by page interpretation from comicbook to film. It's like saying movie Wolverine isnt really Wolverine because his claws come out between the knuckles and not out of them.

 

[psylockolussus]

Exactly!

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I saw somethings differently.

Cause in the UFF Franklin was the head of the Think Tank recruiting Reed and here he's overseeing the mission so he's likely heading the Baxter Institute.

Doom was already a scientist in the Think Tank so him being in the suits means he's apart of the Baxter Institute like the UFF.

And the Think Tank UFF was a militarized government institute unlike the 616 so seeing the military made me think it shares that with Ultimate version.

I could be wrong. Same way people assumed Doom was going to get powers in the same accident as the 4 yet the two missions point to something else.

I don't doubt that the film shares some of these boring elements with UFF, but I'm talking about the look and the feel. As with the real FF, the best parts of UFF are the superhero elements - the amazing powers, the adventure, action and spectacular VISUALS.

There was nothing visually spectacular about this trailer. I've never read a comic book because it had a shadowy government agency. That's just an unfortunate cliche' that comic book readers often get stuck with.

I read comic books to see superheroes and 90% of UFF ( the best parts ) were superheroes being superheroes. But we didn't see any superheroes in the trailer.

Maybe we'll eventually get superheroes in our superhero film, but the trailer didn't give us any, so I'll just have to hope the next trailer is MUCH better.

Can a UFF fan really be excited by a film that may stretch the first 10 boring pages into a 2 hour film? Even if this was 616 based, I wouldn't be interested in two hours worth of a 616 origin. Origins aren't what comic books are about. That's just backstory that needs to happen before the fun stuff we all want to see.

There's a reason Stan L. And Jack K. only spent a couple pages on the FF origin - a reason that these film-makers don't seem to understand.

 

[pavlov]

Seeing Human Torch and Sue flying together looked pretty spectacular to me and to quite a few other people.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Seeing Human Torch and Sue flying together looked pretty spectacular to me and to quite a few other people.

All I saw (after seeking it out because it wasn't actually included on the official trailer) was a blur.

Johnny jumping off the roof in the first FF teaser trailer was cool. The truck crashing into The Thing was cool. Sue blasting Doom with a force-field was cool.

A blur is just a blur unless your mind makes more of it than you're shown.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Oh, I thought we were talking about the essential similarities.

Again, this is film. I don't know why some people are expecting a page by page interpretation from comicbook to film. It's like saying movie Wolverine isnt really Wolverine because his claws come out between the knuckles and not out of them.

Hallelujah. Ive seen nitpicking but damn.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Hallelujah. Ive seen nitpicking but damn.

Aren't you the one who is nitpicking every detail of movies that aren't made by Fox? And don't make me quote you here, because it will embarrass you.
Shazaam, I've seen double standards, but damn.

All I saw (after seeking it out because it wasn't actually included on the official trailer) was a blur.

waitaminute, Clark Kent is in the movie?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Hallelujah. Ive seen nitpicking but damn.

I don't think wanting something that looks like the Fantastic Four or at least Ultimate Fantastic Four in a trailer that calls itself 'Fantastic Four' is 'nitpicking'.

What are some of your favorite elements of UFF? Did you see those elements in the trailer?

If your favorite part of UFF was Franklin Storm, congratulations, you got a glimpse of him.

But who in their right mind would consider Franklin Storm a highlight of UFF?

I've seen people claiming they liked UFF Doom . . . but we didn't see UFF Doom. I've seen people saying they liked UFF Moleman . . . but we didn't see UFF Moleman. And the brief glimpse we had of the four in their 'containment suits' certainly didn't look like the UFF Fantastic Four.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Raise your hand if you read UFF and said to yourself: "I really like these cornfields, spacesuits and people with sullen expressions. I hope they make it into the movie."

 

[Flint Marko]

Oh, I thought we were talking about the essential similarities.

Again, this is film. I don't know why some people are expecting a page by page interpretation from comicbook to film. It's like saying movie Wolverine isnt really Wolverine because his claws come out between the knuckles and not out of them.

Hallelujah. Ive seen nitpicking but damn.

Other than the N-zone, what elements do you see in the trailer that remind you of the UFF? You refer to this as nitpicking but in truth I don't see even general elements that are reminiscent of the UFF.

 

[starscream22]

Other than the N-zone, what elements do you see in the trailer that remind you of the UFF? You refer to this as nitpicking but in truth I don't see even general elements that are reminiscent of the UFF.

Good, people claiming this was UFF were taking liberties anyway. The overall consensus was that this is more Chronicle Part 2 than anything "Fantastic" to began with. And since Pavlov n friends can't really defend this accusation w/o moving the goal post ("wait and see this, no wait and see that...") I say we leave it at that.

So Chronicle 2 it is....... BOOOOOO!

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Other than the N-zone, what elements do you see in the trailer that remind you of the UFF? You refer to this as nitpicking but in truth I don't see even general elements that are reminiscent of the UFF.

You mean you missed this:

and this:

and this:

and this:

and this:

and this:

Maybe all that was hidden in the blur.

UFF may not be as good as 616, but it was never visually boring (and I wouldn't call it 'grounded and gritty'). That trailer was visually boring and didn't show us anything vaguely 'Fantastic'.

I used to be disappointed that this was based on UFF, but now I wish it was more faithful to UFF, and gave us something a lot more interesting and fun than what we saw in that dull trailer.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think part of the game Fox is playing is they're telling everyone this is based on UFF, and since nobody read UFF and nobody really likes it, they think they can get away with giving us something that doesn't look like 616 or UFF.

But I'm not letting them off the hook that easy. If they're not going to give us something fantastic, they're not sticking to the source material . . . ANY source material.

 

[Dasher10]

At least it's not as gritty as the Power Rangers fan film that just got released. Did anyone see that? That's what I feared the trailer would look like.

 

[psylockolussus]

All I saw (after seeking it out because it wasn't actually included on the official trailer) was a blur.

Johnny jumping off the roof in the first FF teaser trailer was cool. The truck crashing into The Thing was cool. Sue blasting Doom with a force-field was cool.

A blur is just a blur unless your mind makes more of it than you're shown.

A blur.... seriously? Yeah it went pretty fast if you watch it in theater but it still looked pretty fant4stic. I think thats just nitpicking to another degree.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

A blur.... seriously? Yeah it went pretty fast if you watch it in theater but it still looked pretty fant4stic. I think thats just nitpicking to another degree.

Okay. You think it's 'nitpicking'. I think it's seeing the trailer to a film I've been looking forward to and realizing none of the elements I'd like to see were there. And that's a big deal to me - not a minor, niggling detail.

So what are your favorite, key elements of UFF? What did you see in the trailer that convinced you those key elements will be in this film?

 

[Flint Marko]

Okay. You think it's 'nitpicking'. I think it's seeing the trailer to a film I've been looking forward to and realizing none of the elements I'd like to see were there. And that's a big deal to me - not a minor, niggling detail.

So what are your favorite, key elements of UFF? What did you see in the trailer that convinced you those key elements will be in this film?

I'd be interested to know as well. I see several folks defending the film, and that's all well and good, but I want to know what exactly about the trailer resonated with them in terms of keeping faithful to the spirit of their comic book counterparts. I'm not talking about slavish accuracy, I mean being a "celebration of the Fantastic Four comic" that Kinberg claimed it was. Are you seeing any of that in the trailer, and if so, in what elements? Again, I'm seriously asking and not trying to stir the pot because I see next to nothing discussed about the trailer itself when trying to defend it's adhesion to the source material.
If you're a huge fan of the FF you would want the movie to reflect what it is you love about the characters and the world they inhabit. I see hardly anything in this trailer to reflect that, but if you do, please let me know what I missed.

 

[psylockolussus]

Raise your hand if you read UFF and said to yourself: "I really like these cornfields, spacesuits and people with sullen expressions. I hope they make it into the movie."

 

[pavlov]

Okay. You think it's 'nitpicking'. I think it's seeing the trailer to a film I've been looking forward to and realizing none of the elements I'd like to see were there. And that's a big deal to me - not a minor, niggling detail.

So what are your favorite, key elements of UFF? What did you see in the trailer that convinced you those key elements will be in this film?

Key elements, you say ( so no cornfield stuff):

1.) this is going to be a modern retelling much like in the UFF
2.) the roster will be younger much like in the UFF
3.) Doom will have a shared origin with the F4 much like in the UFF
4.) Sue will be a scientist of some sort much like in the theUFF
5.) Ben and Reed will be childhood friends much like in the UFF
6.) they go to the N Zone instead of outerspace much like in the UFF
7.) Dr. Storm works for Baxter Institute much like in the UFF

I can go on and on.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Key elements, you say ( so no cornfield stuff):

1.) this is going to be a modern retelling much like in the UFF
2.) the roster will be younger much like in the UFF
3.) Doom will have a shared origin with the F4 much like in the UFF
4.) Sue will be a scientist of some sort much like in the theUFF
5.) Ben and Reed will be childhood friends much like in the UFF
6.) they go to the N Zone instead of outerspace much like in the UFF
7.) Dr. Storm works for Baxter Institute much like in the UFF

I can go on and on.

These may be shared elements, but are these the things that made you like UFF and the things that made UFF better than other comic books?

You're saying that when you picked up a copy of UFF these are the things that made you say: "Wow! This is something special!"?

You didn't like seeing superheroes battling supervillains in spectacular and fantastic settings? Instead you liked seeing a guy named Dr. Storm working at the Baxter Institute? You said: "I'm really enjoying this comic book because it has two 12 year-olds in it?" You said: "Oh look, this character named Susan Storm is a scientist. That's something I always hoped to see in a comic book and I hope in the future something as amazing as that will be included in a film."?

I know real live women who are scientists, but I don't want to read comic books about them or see movies about them. I want to read comic books about amazing things and I want to see amazing things in films based on those comic books. This trailer didn't show us anything amazing.

 

[psylockolussus]

As you said a dozen times.

Anyway if the 2nd trailer is not attached to Avengers 2. I definitely expect it to be attached to Spy which is another film that I am looking forward to.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

As you said a dozen times.

Okay. I'll shut up. I just want someone to explain to me what is special about this trailer and why they think this film (based on what we've seen) will capture elements of the Fantastic Four and/or UFF . . . because it was damn boring to me and looked nothing like either comic book run.

But it seems no one can answer that simple question, so I give up.