Prometheus - Part 3

[CelticPredator]

I love the Space Jockey. I do, I do, I do...OOOOOOooOOOOO!

 

[chamber-music]

Blade Runner wasn't successful when it was first released for a number of reasons.

The studio advertised Blade Runner as a action adventure movie which it wasn't
so people expected Harrison Ford to be like Han Solo or Indiana Jones (Raiders was relased the year before Blade Runner) which Deckard wasn't.

There had been a number of sci fi movies released around the same time including The Thing and Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan but most of all E.T which dominated the box office whole Summer of 1982.

Sci Fi Noir or Tech Noir movies often struggled initially with audiences. Brazil and Dark City both didn't do amazing when they opened but have gone on to be seen as cult classics.

Anyway that Space Jockey head/helmet just looks like the one we saw in the trailer

 

[dude stannis]

Yeah, The Terminator and The Matrix are definitely exceptions, not the rule.

I think I read somewhere that James Cameron hoped people would walk away from The Terminator wanting more tech noir. Instead we got Arnold Schwarzenegger gunning people down in extremely one sided gun fights. Not that I'm complaining.

 

[The Morningstar]

Noir in general just isn't that popular any more. Well, hasn't been since probably the 70s.

 

[Marvolo]

Noir in general just isn't that popular any more. Well, hasn't been since probably the 70s.

Sin city was quite popular noir film.

 

[chamber-music]

Not to turn this into another Batamn discussion but Christopher Nolan says all his movies are noirs. Memento, Insomnia and Inception are for sure.

 

[Kane52630]

It's always been popular, elements of noir have been used for a long time. You can look at Drive or The Dark Knight for example.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

New Prometheus Mask Design Offers Potential Spoilers

Spoiler

These look just like Morpheus' helm.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Holy ****!

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Right? I actually watched Alien only a few nights ago and the Jockey's head doesn't look anywhere near as similar to the helm it does in those photos...

 

[The Morningstar]

Not to turn this into another Batamn discussion but Christopher Nolan says all his movies are noirs. Memento, Insomnia and Inception are for sure.

I would only say Memento and Insomnia are noir's. His Batman films and Inception? Not so much.

It's always been popular, elements of noir have been used for a long time. You can look at Drive or The Dark Knight for example.

I wouldn't consider TDK a noir film at all. And Drive is awesome, but not popular.

I meant noir isn't that popular in the mainstream.

 

[Kane52630]

There's all kinds of film noir and The Dark Knight counts as neo-noir.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea I know, but I just wouldn't count TDK as a neo-noir.

 

[Kane52630]

...meh.


I dig the Prometheus mask design.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea anyway... Prometheus. It's so cool to see the Space Jockey again. I wonder the one we see in the trailer is THE Space Jockey?

 

[DACrowe]

It's always been popular, elements of noir have been used for a long time. You can look at Drive or The Dark Knight for example.

Noir is style of filmmaking that came from post-WWII anxieties (or during the war if you count the earliest noir films like Double Indemnity and The Maltese Falcon). A since of nihilism or fatalism, that humanity is doomed in the increasingly urbanized world. The movement began in the mid-1940s and ended in the late 1950s.

The term "film noir" did not come in existence to categorize this style of film and drama until French filmmakers saw it in the 1970s. There wasn't even a name for it until then. In the '70s and early '80s there was a resurgence of it because the first film school generation wanted to emulate it and remake that feeling. That's when you saw Chinatown, The French Connection, The Conversation, Taxi Driver, Body Heat, Blade Runner, etc.

It kind of has faded as the generation obsessed with the cynical underbelly of their parent's generation has faded in controlling the tastes of moviegoers. Sure The Matrix, Tim Burton's Batman and The Terminator all had elements of noir, but they were more science-fiction or action movies first. Occasionally we'll get an LA Confidential or Seven or Minority Report or Memento. But as a whole, it's just not popular anymore, I'm sorry to say.

 

[The Morningstar]

Ahhh LA Confidential, how I love thee.

 

[CelticPredator]

Sin City...heh. My first real look into Noirity.

 

[The Morningstar]

Sin City is awesome.

 

[CelticPredator]

Everyone hates it now.


I don't care. That movie blew me away in 2005. It was incredibly intense for me. With the ball ripping and ****.

Afterwards I went to midnight madness for the Star Wars Episode III toys. Good night actually.,

 

[corby]

This is awesome.

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[The Morningstar]

haha that is brilliant. Love the tag line.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Blade Runner wasn't successful when it was first released for a number of reasons.

The studio advertised Blade Runner as a action adventure movie which it wasn't
so people expected Harrison Ford to be like Han Solo or Indiana Jones (Raiders was relased the year before Blade Runner) which Deckard wasn't.

Bingo! This is exactly why I didn't care for Blade Runner as a teenager when it first came out. Needless to say, my opinion of the film has changed since then.

Funny thing, one of the things I did like when I first saw the movie was the noir-ish voice-over! You know, the voice-over everyone, including Ridley Scott hates.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Ford sounds like he did it in his sleep.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Ford sounds like he did it in his sleep.

That's because he intentionally no-sold it.

"When we started shooting it had been tacitly agreed that the version of the film that we had agreed upon was the version without voiceover narration. It was a ****ing nightmare. I thought that the film had worked without the narration. But now I was stuck re-creating that narration. And I was obliged to do the voiceovers for people that did not represent the director's interests. I went kicking and screaming to the studio to record it."

"What I remember more than anything else when I see Blade Runner is not the 50 nights of shooting in the rain, but the voiceover ... I was still obliged to work for these clowns that came in writing one bad voiceover after another.