Pyro vs. Human Torch

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Just for kicks and fun, who would win?

Torch creates fire and can blast it, and withstand it. I'm sure ppl will post some impressive feats on Torch.

Pyro control's fire, but Torch could roast him with a direct attack. Also lacks compared to Torch on impressive feats.

The fight comes not with power as Pyro needs something to make fire for him and Torch when flamed on is on fire literally. The question comes tho just how good is Pyro's flame controlling ability. Can he turn back any of Torch's attacks and use them against him, and can he manipulate the fire directly on Torch's body and make him flame off? Also who has better control over all of Torch's attacks, can Pyro take each and every blast Torch throws at him and just turn them into some firebird or something and send them right back, or does Torch's control over flame trump that?

When Pyro had the legacy virus (he's dead now btw right? If so then this fight counts when he was alive), a comment was made in the 'Search for Xavier' arc that Pyro's power had never been so ferocious before, so maybe theres more power than he's shown. Anyway, think I'm going with Torch, Pyro has done some powerful things before but Torch can prob just keep pumping out the fire and Pyro would burn out before Torch I think.

 

[juggster-rules]

pleasssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee HT takes out pyro in a sec.

 

[Morg]

Pyro can't create his own fire so gets owned by Human Torch

 

[juggster-rules]

Pyro can't create his own fire so gets owned by Human Torch

yup. even if pyro shoots at HT with his flamethrower wont do jack to him. he can absorb fire of course

 

[Fading]

Well, I'm more talking if Pyro can control the flames torches. I know he can't create his own, but could he control what Torch shoots at him, or does Torch's control over fire trump that?

Agreed tho Torch still takes it.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Torch.He`s much more powerful,and the fact proven above that he cant make his own fire makes him no challange.

 

[Phrostyphlame]

YEah the human torch will own pyro but whos to say pyro can't manipulate fire so does that mean that he can manipulate the human torch maybe even control him or can pyro send back the HT attacks you have to see this one to really decide on it you should think twice about pyro b4 u really say he will get owned really bad because with going flame on then HT isn't nutttin

 

[The Question]

Pyro. The Human Torch generates flame, but he can't control it. Pyro can manipulate the fire generated by Johnny and use it to hurt others, even if he can't use it to hurt Johnny himself. Hell, might be a cool story to have Pyro kidnap Johnny and use the massive ammounts of fire that he generates as a sort of doomsday weapon on behalf of the Brotherhood.

 

[unstoppable]

YEah the human torch will own pyro but whos to say pyro can't manipulate fire so does that mean that he can manipulate the human torch maybe even control him or can pyro send back the HT attacks you have to see this one to really decide on it you should think twice about pyro b4 u really say he will get owned really bad because with going flame on then HT isn't nutttin

welcome to the HYPE

 

[Phrostyphlame]

i dont think so who wants to see that how will he kidnapp him kinda dumb idea but pyro has a definite chance against him but the human torch mite still awn his ass

 

[unstoppable]

this could go anyway

pyro may be able to use HT power against him but he can do the same to pyro

 

[Phrostyphlame]

change my mind i think pyro will get HT by a little because if he can control him how can the HT beat pyro unless they result in hand to hand combat

 

[The Question]

this could go anyway

pyro may be able to use HT power against him but he can do the same to pyro

No, he can't. The more Johnny uses his powers, the more amunition he gives Pyro.

 

[Phrostyphlame]

right HT can only genrate flames not control someone elses he will probably lose deal with it

 

[The Question]

right HT can only genrate flames not control someone elses he will probably lose deal with it

Please, use punctuation. This isn't instanmessenger or an online game. You can take your time to do so.

 

[Phrostyphlame]

That was a great little thingy u jus wrote thanks father.(if it bothers u sooo much

 

[unstoppable]

No, he can't. The more Johnny uses his powers, the more amunition he gives Pyro.

No that's not what I mean

Example. say Johnny shoots a fireball at Pyro,Pyro seeing this redirects it right back at him Johnny sees this and redirects it or takes it like a man
we need to know how hot pyro can go before judging anything

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The Human Torch has the same sort of control over fire that Pyro has and is completely immune to fire and heat no matter the source. There is nothing that Pyro can do to the Torch. Even if he can control the flame better than the Torch he still can't win.

 

[The Question]

No that's not what I mean

Example. say Johnny shoots a fireball at Pyro,Pyro seeing this redirects it right back at him Johnny sees this and redirects it or takes it like a man
we need to know how hot pyro can go before judging anything

Johnny can't redirect it. He can only duck or get hit by it.

The Human Torch has the same sort of control over fire that Pyro has and is completely immune to fire and heat no matter the source. There is nothing that Pyro can do to the Torch. Even if he can control the flame better than the Torch he still can't win.

Johnny can't control fire. He can only generate it.

 

[Morg]

The Question, pretty sure I recall Torch controlling other flames, once in a house fire I believe, can't recall the issue number at this time and Torch has more control over his flame, doubt Pyro can use it.

 

[Cyclops]

Then how does he generate flame nets or cages of fire? Johnny does have control over the shape of the fire he creates. It's been established.

As for a match between Pyro and the Torch, Pyro is HOPELESSLY outclassed. As Pyro doesn't generate flames, he lacks Johnny's invulnerability to heat. Johnny's got this one in the bag with ease.

 

[unstoppable]

Johnny can't redirect it. HE probably could


Johnny can't control fire. He can only generate it.I've seen him sitting around making shapes of flame from his fingertips[/quote]

 

[The Question]

Then how does he generate flame nets or cages of fire? Johnny does have control over the shape of the fire he creates. It's been established.

I always thought that was a sort of sky writing, except with flaming gas instead of regular gas.

As for a match between Pyro and the Torch, Pyro is HOPELESSLY outclassed. As Pyro doesn't generate flames, he lacks Johnny's invulnerability to heat. Johnny's got this one in the bag with ease.

Except, even if Jphnny can control fire to some degree, it's been pretty well shown that Pryo is vastly superior to him in this regard. Johnny fires a torrent of fire at Pyro, it bends around him. Really, judging by how much heat and fire Johnny can generate when he pushes himself, just being in the same room with him makes Pyro one of the most powerful people around.

I've seen him sitting around making shapes of flame from his fingertips

I've never seen him do anything of the sort.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The Civil War image of Johnny standing by the car with the flame umbrella over his head.

 

[unstoppable]

I've never seen him do anything of the sort.

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