Queens Elementary School Adopts All-Vegetarian Menu

[Spider-Who?]

Well we can't be informed of all the things that exist.

But we CAN keep ourselves from forming opinions and making arguments touted as fact when we are not informed enough to say such things - you had no idea about the Eskimo topic, yet you fired off "facts" to cement your point, totally irregardless of the actual facts. You need to ask yourself: "What ELSE am I saying that I don't really know for certain?"

I meant that meat has too much protein and fat for us who live in normal environments to be of any good. Too much protein harms us. That's a fact and you can't say I can measure how much protein I eat from an animal. It is practically impossible.

First you say "meat has too much protein." Then IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH you say that it's "impossible" to measure the protein in meat. Which is it? I'll save you time: both of those statements are remarkably false.

Secondly, the point you tried to ignore by making those fun little claims is the fact that you believe that a vegetarian diet is all humans need - that it's the perfect amount of nutrition, the only right choice. But even by your own admission, Eskimo's needed a diet of meat in order to survive. It doesn't matter that they live in a cold climate...this truth negates your claim, plain and simple. There are 7 billion people in the world. All with different dietary needs based on numerous factors including health, age, genetics, location/climate. It's totally asinine to say that an all vegetable diet is all ANYONE needs, especially when the fallacy in that statement is so obvious.

When did I insulted anyone or treated him in a hostile way? I am just responding posing my view of things.

What? How did you get accusations of insults and hostility out of this: "You may not force your will on people personally, but you surely are content with others imposing a notion you agree with. There is very little difference between the two."

In other words, you claim that you aren't out to force people to become vegans, yet you proudly applaud a system that would. It's like saying "I don't go out and picket with them, but I applaud Westboro Baptist Church's message." (note: I'm by no means comparing you or your diet to WBC, I'm merely using them as an example to get the point across).

They have plenty of choices out of school to eat whatever they want. It's not like they forced them not to eat meat for the rest of their lives.

Many poor kids, sadly, are only able to each lunch at school thanks to financial aid programs offering school lunches at discount price, or even free. Does their inability to choose their meals not matter? What about kids with illnesses that require a certain diet, one that isn't met by the schools new reduced menu? I'm by no means saying healthy food is bad, nor that schools should continue to offer unhealthy food - what I'm saying is that eliminating a major portion of the food pyramid is not the appropriate action.

 

[Breogan]

Haha, I was gonna say the same thing. At most schools, are they even really serving actual meat?

School cafeteria hotdogs are made from pig toenails and hair, maybe that counts as a vegetable?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I think my school is vegetarian too because the meat they are cooking sure as hell isn't real.

When you put it that way, nevermind about complaining about no meat.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

When I look at a cow all I see is a big slab of beef wrapped in a leather jacket.

 

[Lantern Venom]

When I look at a cow all I see is a big slab of beef wrapped in a leather jacket.

I refer to cows as "hamburgers in training".

 

[zeroapoc]

 

[Lantern Venom]

LMBO!!

 

[Alex_Spider]

When I look at a cow all I see is a big slab of beef wrapped in a leather jacket.

I refer to cows as "hamburgers in training".

Humanity at its best. So, you find the violent deaths of baby pigs and calves amusing? Wouldn't be so funny anymore if you took their place.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

If it makes you feel any better, I'm a cannibal.

 

[zeroapoc]

Humanity at its best. So, you find the violent deaths of baby pigs and calves amusing? Wouldn't be so funny anymore if you took their place.

Yep. I found that amusing. I won't be taking their place and there's nothing you can do about it. t:

 

[<(o_o)>]

Humanity at its best. So, you find the violent deaths of baby pigs and calves amusing? Wouldn't be so funny anymore if you took their place.

Animals were created to be food first & friends second.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Yep. I found that amusing. I won't be taking their place and there's nothing you can do about it. t:

lol. Maybe if I adopted a superhero persona that freed animals and punished meat eaters then I could do something...This is a job for "Vegan-Man"

 

[zeroapoc]

See ya then.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Humanity at its best. So, you find the violent deaths of baby pigs and calves amusing? Wouldn't be so funny anymore if you took their place.

Hopefully, it's as humane as possible, but the primary function of animals since the beginning of time has been to sustain humans.

lol. Maybe if I adopted a superhero persona that freed animals and punished meat eaters then I could do something...This is a job for "Vegan-Man"

Odds are you'd be too weak to win a lot of fights. I know there are a few exceptions, but they only prove the rule. The evidence is overwhelming that the body can't sustain it's strength and recovery levels without all of the major food groups.

 

[dark_b]

Alex.

meat has a lot energy. a lot calories compared to vegetables. lets say 1000 calories. how much vegetables and meat do you have to eat to get 1000 calories inside the body. now compare this with 1000 calories of vegetables. now the question is if people have big enough guts to be able to eat so much vegetables every week and every month and have enough evergy to work. not at a table. some work outside with their body.

is there enough space on the planet to have so much vegetables for every human. since if we stop eating meat we need to get calories from other sources.

you know whats scary? vegetarian are just saying that we should stop eating meat. they dont have a solution. they dont think wide enough. they are just thinking '' how can i get enough food for my family and friends. '' the world is bigger and not everyone is working 8 hours on the computer. some need 2500-3000 calories for work.


in debates like this it gets funny when someone asks. '' what about bodybuilders and athletes. some dont eat meat. they are vegetarians'' they eat a lot of protein powder and shakes. where does this come from? some are on steroids and a lot of drugs. athletes who training and winning. so we should stop eating meat and start consuming protein sources from bodybuilding and sport stores?

 

[Alex_Spider]

Hopefully, it's as humane as possible, but the primary function of animals since the beginning of time has been to sustain humans.

But the conditions in the majority of slaughter houses are not humane at all. It's more like a middle ages "Dante's Hell" depiction where horrors take place you wouldn't even imagine. Personally I cannot accept eating meat and living in a world where these things take place.

And I can accept that in past ages animals provided a needed nutrition for humans to survive where there wansn't many plants around, but that is not the same with the industrialized mass breeding in small confined filthy farms where baby calves are violently separated from mothers and then put to death. This is crazy and sick.

Odds are you'd be too weak to win a lot of fights. I know there are a few exceptions, but they only prove the rule. The evidence is overwhelming that the body can't sustain it's strength and recovery levels without all of the major food groups.

You are wrong. Everything meat has, it is abundant in plants and fruits. There is no reason to kill a single animal. And what do you define as "major" food groups. Should we also eat snakes, insects, dogs like they do in the East.

Alex.

meat has a lot energy. a lot calories compared to vegetables. lets say 1000 calories. how much vegetables and meat do you have to eat to get 1000 calories inside the body. now compare this with 1000 calories of vegetables. now the question is if people have big enough guts to be able to eat so much vegetables every week and every month and have enough evergy to work. not at a table. some work outside with their body.

is there enough space on the planet to have so much vegetables for every human. since if we stop eating meat we need to get calories from other sources.

you know whats scary? vegetarian are just saying that we should stop eating meat. they dont have a solution. they dont think wide enough. they are just thinking '' how can i get enough food for my family and friends. '' the world is bigger and not everyone is working 8 hours on the computer. some need 2500-3000 calories for work.


in debates like this it gets funny when someone asks. '' what about bodybuilders and athletes. some dont eat meat. they are vegetarians'' they eat a lot of protein powder and shakes. where does this come from? some are on steroids and a lot of drugs. athletes who training and winning. so we should stop eating meat and start consuming protein sources from bodybuilding and sport stores?

Look I don't want to repeat myself all the time. The evidence I have from PhD's doctors is pointing towards a plant based food and explain how meat is total obsolete. I accept that there are counter arguments though. You are free to accept them for your self. I just don't buy them.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Vegans are a lot like lesbians. They don't want meat in their mouths, either.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Vegans are a lot like lesbians. They don't want meat in their mouths, either.

I know. Vegans are totally weirdos

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Not at all.

 

[terry78]

How long is this bit going to go on?

 

[Alex_Spider]

How long is this bit going to go on?

This what exactly?

 

[Evelisse]

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[Burgundy LaRue]

This entire thread once again proves that having a serious discussion about anything with anyone is a waste of time. *half-joking*

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I think the worst job in the world would be to work at a slaughterhouse. My friend did a summer at one and came out a vegetarian. That was 10 years ago and he's still a veggie.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I think the worst job in the world would be to work at a slaughterhouse. My friend did a summer at one and came out a vegetarian. That was 10 years ago and he's still a veggie.

I used to be a camera assistant at Playboy much to the same effect.