Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Great teaser... the guy playing Bruce Lee is uncanny. So spot on.
 
I think Bruce Lee actor nailed mannerisms and body language. Couple with the wardrobe it really sells the portrayal. Maybe the wig is a bit too long, though. Of course they've chosen the best angle, but Mike Moh doesn't really look like him.
 
Is Manson really more touchy than Hitler?


I don’t think I can say how much more or less “touchy” Manson is as a subject matter than Hitler and the nazis but I do trust Tarantino to understand that there’s a certain distance between pop culture and one and the other. Basterds really hinges on history’s ease with pointing Hitler out as the THE villain and his decades worth of media appropriation.

Manson is something else entirely, I think. As PinkRanger said, there’d have to be some artistic purpose to a historical revision as bold and incendiary as Tate surviving or even killing Manson herself... but I just don’t see one that’s particularly satisfying to me as a justification.
 
I don’t think I can say how much more or less “touchy” Manson is as a subject matter than Hitler and the nazis but I do trust Tarantino to understand that there’s a certain distance between pop culture and one and the other. Basterds really hinges on history’s ease with pointing Hitler out as the THE villain and his decades worth of media appropriation.

Manson is something else entirely, I think. As PinkRanger said, there’d have to be some artistic purpose to a historical revision as bold and incendiary as Tate surviving or even killing Manson herself... but I just don’t see one that’s particularly satisfying to me as a justification.

I get that, and i'd say she'll probably die the same way she did in real life, but it's pretty hard to determine if there's a justification for a change like that when we barely know anything about the story. It could serve the narrative as far as we know and something like making a fictionalized version of a sympathetic person survive and killing a, let's say, fictionalized version of a very unsympathetic person in it's doesn't sound that much taboo for me, especially coming from Tarantino. Not that I particularly think it will happen, but I wouldn't be too attached to actual history when speculating about this movie.
 
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Lee was insanely full of himself but it didn't detract from his likeability.
 
That teaser was great! I busted up laughing at Pitt's line to Bruce Lee hahahahahahaha.

Wow, just looked up the cast and found out the TV Spider-Man, Nicholas Hammond is in this, haha. I love how Tarantino always digs up these obscure actors from the past for his films.
 
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Before more folks jump to conclusions, lettuce not forget...Sharon Tate's own sister approved the script.

I for one have no beef with a what if scenario around Tate. This entire film is already a what if scenario to begin with, but hoping she survives.
 
I get the feeling she doesn't die because this appears to be already fairly fictionalized if it only takes place in the summer of '69 (she was pregnant that summer, tragically so when she was murdered within weeks of her due date).

My guess it is a celebration of Sharon Tate and what she represented about the "Youth Generation" at that time. Either she survives or we simply don't talk about the murders at all (or at the least don't show them). My guess is trying to reclaim Sharon Tate for her life instead of her death is why her sister approved.

As for Manson, I am fine with him getting killed off in this film. I don't know if they'd do it, but they're obviously shooting at the farm Manson's cult lived on (you see Pitt's character riding a horse through it), so it's easy to imagine a "manslaughter" situation occurring. Yes, there would need to be a thematic logic to it, which in the case of Basterds was the power of cinema doing what we wish we could've done ourselves in '44. But Hitler orchestrated and planed the murder of millions and millions of people. If folks are okay with Tarantino changing his fate in history, I don't see why it's offensive with Manson too. Maybe Sharon killing him is too far, but I wonder if she will represent the era as so many have retroactively made her be the symbol of? If so, maybe the theme might just be let's not focus how this world ended but why it was wonderful when it was there.
 
So if Sharon Tate lives, maybe Bruce Lee lives too and he presents us with an alternate 2019 Hollywood at the end.
 
Dicaprio and Pitt are her neighbors, which should be interesting. They would've gotten an invite that night.

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