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I don't know if it will matter or not, but LA isn't included in those numbers because it was preempted. I don't know if any other market areas had to reschedule the showing.
 
Supershizzle said:
not bad, considering in LA we cant even see the episdoe until tonight
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I'll direct this at you and Pat, as you both seem to know how these things work. Do they just not take L.A.'s numbers into consideration, or do they calculate the ratios around/into it?
 
As far as I know, ratings are what they are for the time period in question. If a show is pre-empted in one market, oh well. That said, when the show shops its numbers to perspective sponsors (they're the peeps who count, after all) ALL numbers are tallied together to reflect the skein's viewership.
 
AgentPat said:
As far as I know, ratings are what they are for the time period in question. If a show is pre-empted in one market, oh well. That said, when the show shops its numbers to perspective sponsors (they're the peeps who count, after all) ALL numbers are tallied together to reflect the skein's viewership.
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So that would have taken into account all the people in L.A. watching the basketball or do you think L.A. would not have been included?
 
avidreader said:
So that would have taken into account all the people in L.A. watching the basketball or do you think L.A. would not have been included?
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No, I'm pretty sure the Lakers' game's ratings would not have been lumped into SV's ratings.
 
AgentPat said:
No, I'm pretty sure the Lakers' game's ratings would not have been lumped into SV's ratings.
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Okay, thats what I thought. So in a city with quite a few million people you would think that Smallville's total viewership would be over 5,000,000.
 
avidreader said:
Okay, thats what I thought. So in a city with quite a few million people you would think that Smallville's total viewership would be over 5,000,000.
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I think they made a mistake putting it up against the Laker game tonight. They should have just moved it to this past Wednesday IMO. The Lakers are MUCH bigger than the Clippers.

It's a good thing I have TIVO.
 
Pickle-El said:
I think they made a mistake putting it up against the Laker game tonight. They should have just moved it to this past Wednesday IMO. The Lakers are MUCH bigger than the Clippers.
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I've been reminded by my son several times in the last day that there is a Laker game on tonight. Luckily here in SD we got Smallville on its usual time last night. Mind you, our WB channel doesnt have any sports in its programming.

It's a good thing I have TIVO.
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They are the best arent they?
 
Primetime Thursday Ratings:
CBS Rules; NBC a Typically Distant No. 2

Thursday 5/04/06

Household Rating/Share
CBS: 13.5/21, NBC: 7.0/11, ABC: 4.5/ 7, Fox: 3.6/ 5, WB: 3.0/ 5, UPN: 1.9/ 3

-Percent Change From the Comparable Year-Ago Evening (Thursday 5/05/05):
WB: +50, CBS: - 6, ABC: -22, Fox: -25, NBC: -29, UPN: -46

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Fast National Ratings (Live Plus Same Day data).

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 20.70 million, NBC: 8.90, ABC: 5.69, Fox: 5.08, WB: 4.14, UPN: 2.49

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 6.7/18, NBC: 3.9/11, Fox: 2.3/ 7, ABC: 2.0/ 6, WB: 1.7/ 5, UPN: 1.1/ 3

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Survivor Panama – Exile Island (CBS), CSI (CBS), Without A Trace (CBS)

-Fading Fast:
American Inventor (ABC), ER (NBC)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
Love, Inc. (UPN), The O.C. (Fox), Eve (UPN), Cuts (UPN), Primetime Live (ABC)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
In another clean Thursday sweep, CBS ruled with an iron fist courtesy of Survivor Panama – Exile Island (Overnights: 9.9/16; Viewers: 17.26 million; A18-49: 5.9/18), CSI (Overnights: 17.2/25; Viewers: 25.75 million; A18-49: 8.2/22), and Without A Trace (Overnights: 13.3/21; Viewers: 19.09 million; A18-49: 5.9/16). I think it’s safe to presume that whoever lands in the bottom two with Terry (is this guy unreal, or what?) will win the cool million on Survivor. His arrogance is likely to cost him at the end, don’t you think? Go Cerie!

As a reminder, results from last night among total viewers and adults 18-49 are based on the fast nationals.

NBC finished second in every half-hour courtesy of two episodes (original and repeat) of the soon-to-conclude Will & Grace (8 p.m. – Overnights: 6.2/10; Viewers: 6.98 million; A18-49: 2.7/ 9 / 8:30 p.m. R – Overnights: 6.1/ 9; Viewers: 6.79 million; A18-49: 2.9/ 9), My Name Is Earl (Overnights: 6.6/10; Viewers: 8.68 million; A18-49: 4.0/11), The Office (Overnights: 5.5/ 8; Viewers: 7.53 million; A18-49: 3.6/ 9), and fading ER (Overnights: 8.9/14; Viewers: 11.72 million; A18-49: 5.0/13). For comparative purposes, ER on the year-ago evening (May 5, 2005) averaged a 12.9/20 in the overnights, with 15.66 million viewers and a 7.1/19 among adults 18-49 according to the final nationals. Please, NBC, bill ER as the final season in 2006-07 and let the medical drama go out with some dignity.

ABC, unfortunately, has sprung a leak with the once promising American Inventor. An 8 p.m. installment of the reality/competition opened with a 3.9/ 6 in the overnights (#3), 5.30 million viewers (#3), and a 1.8/ 5 among adults 18-49 (#5). That led into the regularly scheduled installment at an also modest (and third-place) 4.8/ 7 in the overnights, 6.52 million viewers, and a 2.6/ 7 among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m. Obviously, we all knew the inventor with the baby safe car seat would be picked over the two bathroom related items!

A last minute edition of Primetime Live (in place of the yanked Commander in Chief) capped off the evening for ABC with a last-place 4.7/ 7 in the overnights, 5.26 million viewers, and a 1.7/ 4 among adults 18-49 at 10 p.m.

Fox, meanwhile, remained out of the Thursday loop with its combination of two episodes of the soon-to-end That ‘70s Show (Overnights: #4, 3.7/ 6; Viewers: #4, 5.13 million; A18-49: #3, 2.4/ 8 from 8-9 p.m.), and all-but-forgotten serial The O.C. (Overnights: #4, 3.5/ 5; Viewers: #4, #4, 5.02 million; A18-49: #4, 2.2/ 6).

The WB, as usual, stood well above last-place UPN with dramas Smallville (Overnights: #5, 3.2/ 5; Viewers: #5, 4.44 million; A18-49: #4, 1.9/ 6), and the season-finale of the compatible Supernatural (Overnights: #5, 2.8/ 4; Viewers: #5, 3.83 million; A18-49: #5, 1.6/ 4). Although nothing has been officially announced, expect Smallville and Supernatural to occupy upcoming The CW’s Thursday line-up next season.

Only UPN’s Everybody Hates Chris, as usual, generated any interest on Thursday with a 2.8/ 5 in the overnights, 3.26 million viewers, and a 1.3/ 4 among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. (last in all three categories). That led into significantly weaker sixth-place finishes for Love, Inc. (Overnights: 1.7/ 3; Viewers: 2.20 million; A18-49: 0.9/ 3), Eve (Overnights: 1.6/ 2; Viewers: 2.30 million; A18-49: 1.0/ 3), and Cuts (Overnights: 1.5/ 2; Viewers: 2.19 million; A18-49: 1.0/ 3) from 8:30-10 p.m.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data
 
^^^Sweetness, I always like hearing good news.

We need to get a petitions together for them to up the SFX budget again.:( ;)
 
LarryLegend said:
It should be drawing more. They need to promote it better.
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I have a feeling The WB wont be spending much money on promoting when they are about to close their doors.

I think those ratings are actually pretty good when you compare them with say Fox and the WB was the only network to achieve growth from the same time last year.
 
avidreader said:
Primetime Thursday Ratings:
CBS Rules; NBC a Typically Distant No. 2

Thursday 5/04/06

Household Rating/Share
CBS: 13.5/21, NBC: 7.0/11, ABC: 4.5/ 7, Fox: 3.6/ 5, WB: 3.0/ 5, UPN: 1.9/ 3

-Percent Change From the Comparable Year-Ago Evening (Thursday 5/05/05):
WB: +50, CBS: - 6, ABC: -22, Fox: -25, NBC: -29, UPN: -46

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Fast National Ratings (Live Plus Same Day data).

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 20.70 million, NBC: 8.90, ABC: 5.69, Fox: 5.08, WB: 4.14, UPN: 2.49

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 6.7/18, NBC: 3.9/11, Fox: 2.3/ 7, ABC: 2.0/ 6, WB: 1.7/ 5, UPN: 1.1/ 3

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Survivor Panama – Exile Island (CBS), CSI (CBS), Without A Trace (CBS)

-Fading Fast:
American Inventor (ABC), ER (NBC)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
Love, Inc. (UPN), The O.C. (Fox), Eve (UPN), Cuts (UPN), Primetime Live (ABC)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
In another clean Thursday sweep, CBS ruled with an iron fist courtesy of Survivor Panama – Exile Island (Overnights: 9.9/16; Viewers: 17.26 million; A18-49: 5.9/18), CSI (Overnights: 17.2/25; Viewers: 25.75 million; A18-49: 8.2/22), and Without A Trace (Overnights: 13.3/21; Viewers: 19.09 million; A18-49: 5.9/16). I think it’s safe to presume that whoever lands in the bottom two with Terry (is this guy unreal, or what?) will win the cool million on Survivor. His arrogance is likely to cost him at the end, don’t you think? Go Cerie!

As a reminder, results from last night among total viewers and adults 18-49 are based on the fast nationals.

NBC finished second in every half-hour courtesy of two episodes (original and repeat) of the soon-to-conclude Will & Grace (8 p.m. – Overnights: 6.2/10; Viewers: 6.98 million; A18-49: 2.7/ 9 / 8:30 p.m. R – Overnights: 6.1/ 9; Viewers: 6.79 million; A18-49: 2.9/ 9), My Name Is Earl (Overnights: 6.6/10; Viewers: 8.68 million; A18-49: 4.0/11), The Office (Overnights: 5.5/ 8; Viewers: 7.53 million; A18-49: 3.6/ 9), and fading ER (Overnights: 8.9/14; Viewers: 11.72 million; A18-49: 5.0/13). For comparative purposes, ER on the year-ago evening (May 5, 2005) averaged a 12.9/20 in the overnights, with 15.66 million viewers and a 7.1/19 among adults 18-49 according to the final nationals. Please, NBC, bill ER as the final season in 2006-07 and let the medical drama go out with some dignity.

ABC, unfortunately, has sprung a leak with the once promising American Inventor. An 8 p.m. installment of the reality/competition opened with a 3.9/ 6 in the overnights (#3), 5.30 million viewers (#3), and a 1.8/ 5 among adults 18-49 (#5). That led into the regularly scheduled installment at an also modest (and third-place) 4.8/ 7 in the overnights, 6.52 million viewers, and a 2.6/ 7 among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m. Obviously, we all knew the inventor with the baby safe car seat would be picked over the two bathroom related items!

A last minute edition of Primetime Live (in place of the yanked Commander in Chief) capped off the evening for ABC with a last-place 4.7/ 7 in the overnights, 5.26 million viewers, and a 1.7/ 4 among adults 18-49 at 10 p.m.

Fox, meanwhile, remained out of the Thursday loop with its combination of two episodes of the soon-to-end That ‘70s Show (Overnights: #4, 3.7/ 6; Viewers: #4, 5.13 million; A18-49: #3, 2.4/ 8 from 8-9 p.m.), and all-but-forgotten serial The O.C. (Overnights: #4, 3.5/ 5; Viewers: #4, #4, 5.02 million; A18-49: #4, 2.2/ 6).

The WB, as usual, stood well above last-place UPN with dramas Smallville (Overnights: #5, 3.2/ 5; Viewers: #5, 4.44 million; A18-49: #4, 1.9/ 6), and the season-finale of the compatible Supernatural (Overnights: #5, 2.8/ 4; Viewers: #5, 3.83 million; A18-49: #5, 1.6/ 4). Although nothing has been officially announced, expect Smallville and Supernatural to occupy upcoming The CW’s Thursday line-up next season.

Only UPN’s Everybody Hates Chris, as usual, generated any interest on Thursday with a 2.8/ 5 in the overnights, 3.26 million viewers, and a 1.3/ 4 among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. (last in all three categories). That led into significantly weaker sixth-place finishes for Love, Inc. (Overnights: 1.7/ 3; Viewers: 2.20 million; A18-49: 0.9/ 3), Eve (Overnights: 1.6/ 2; Viewers: 2.30 million; A18-49: 1.0/ 3), and Cuts (Overnights: 1.5/ 2; Viewers: 2.19 million; A18-49: 1.0/ 3) from 8:30-10 p.m.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data
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heh thats awsome news!
Oh, and I can't hate...Everybody Hates Chris is a very funny show.v:up:
 
MAY 12, 2006
The Programming Insider

Marc Berman

Note: The Programming Insider next week will focus on the upcoming fall 2006 primetime schedule announcements. All regularly scheduled sections (including Primetime Ratings, Ratings Box, On the Air Tonight, Reader Feedback and TV Trivia Time) will be pre-empted Tuesday through Thursday.


Primetime Thursday Ratings:
CBS Rules; Three UPN Sitcoms Bid Adieu

Thursday 5/11/06
Metered Market Ratings

Household Rating/Share
CBS: 14.2/22, NBC: 7.8/12, Fox: 5.3/ 8, ABC: 4.7/ 7, WB: 2.8/ 4, UPN: 2.0/ 3

-Percent Change From the Comparable Year-Ago Evening (Thursday 5/12/05):
Fox: +32, WB: +27, CBS: - 4, ABC: - 8, NBC: -26, UPN: -43

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Fast National Ratings (Live Plus Same Day data).

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 20.95 million, NBC: 10.14, Fox: 7.30, ABC: 6.24, WB: 3.65, UPN: 2.21

-Adults 18-49:
CBS: 6.6/18, NBC: 4.4/12, Fox: 3.6/10, ABC: 2.3/ 6, WB: 1.6/ 4, UPN: 0.9/ 3

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Survivor Panama – Exile Island (CBS), CSI (CBS), Without A Trace (CBS)

-Honorable Mention:
Smallville (WB)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
Love, Inc. (UPN), Eve (UPN), Cuts (UPN), Primetime Live (ABC)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
CBS roared to the winning Thursday finish line, as usual, courtesy of Survivor Panama – Exile Island (Overnights: 10.4/16; Viewers: 17.17 million; A18-49: 5.7/17), CSI (Overnights: 18.3/27; Viewers: 26.64 million; A18-49: 8.2/21), and Without A Trace (Overnights: 13.8/22; Viewers: 19.03 million; A18-49: 5.8/15). Fans of Survivor, don’t forget: the two-hour season-finale is this Sunday at 8 p.m., followed by the live reunion show at 10 p.m. And speaking of Survivor, was I the only one who felt ripped-off after we were left hanging last night? Come on Cirie, you can do it!

Despite traveling the “super-size” route last night with expanded episodes of the second-to-last installment of Will & Grace, and the season-finales of My Name Is Earl and The Office, NBC did not benefit overall. Will & Grace opened with an above-average 7.6/12 in the overnights from 8-8:40 p.m. (#2), followed by also second-place finishes for My Name Is Earl (6.8/10 from 8:40-9:20 p.m.) and The Office (6.0/ 9 from 9:40-10 p.m.). Due to the expanded nature of the telecasts, all overnight results for NBC are approximate and individual fast national ratings cannot be determined. Based on the 8-10 p.m. block, the three comedies averaged 8.68 million viewers, and a 3.8/11 among adults 18-49 according to the fast nationals. Although My Name Is Earl had a solid first season, it is not the kind of break-out hit that NBC needs to rejuvenate the evening. And neither is The Office.

At 10 p.m., the rumored-to-be relocating ER capped off the evening for NBC with a second-place finish in the overnights (9.9/16), total viewers (13.06 million), and adults 18-49 (5.5/15). If NBC does indeed move ER to make room for upcoming drama Studio H on the Sunset Strip (or something else) next fall, season 13 will not be a lucky one for fading medical drama.

Fox got a boost as a result of retrospective That ‘70s Show: The Final Goodbye, which averaged a 5.6/ 8 in the overnights, 7.58 million viewers, and a 3.8/10 among adults 18-49 from 8:30-10 p.m. Keep in mind that that seven minutes of preview X-Men: The Last Stand was factored into that average. Earlier in the evening, the-second-to-last episode of That ‘70s Show scored a 4.4/ 7 in the overnights (#3), 6.20 million viewers (#3), and a 3.0/ 9 among adults 18-49 (#3) at 8 p.m.

On ABC, an 8 p.m. edition of American Inventor opened with a lackluster 4.0/ 6 in the overnights (#4), 5.16 million viewers (#4), and a 1.6/ 5 among adults 18-49 (#5) at 8 p.m. That led into the regularly scheduled 9 p.m. edition at a 5.1/ 7 in the overnights (#4), 6.97 million viewers (#4), and a 2.6/ 7 among adults 18-49 (#4). Next week, the winner of American Inventor (which I predict will be the worthy Janusz Liberkowski) will be revealed. At 10 p.m., veteran Primetime Live remained lost in the cellar with a 5.0/ 8 in the overnights, 6.60 million viewers, and a 2.8/ 7 among adults 18-49.

Over at the WB, Smallville concluded season No. 5 (time flies!) with a respectable 3.5/ 5 in the overnights (#5), 4.58 million viewers (#5), and a fourth-place 2.0/ 6 among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. That led into a repeat of the young Clark Kent drama at a 2.1/ 3 in the overnights (#5), 2.72 million viewers, (#5), and a 1.1/ 3 among adults 18-49 (#5) at 9 p.m. Given how Smallville put the WB on the Thursday map this season, consider it a lock on The CW at 8 p.m. again in 2006-07.

Last, and least, was the season-finale of UPN’s Everybody Hates Chris (Overnights: 2.8/ 5; Viewers: 3.30 million; A18-49: 1.3/ 4 at 8 p.m.), followed by the series-finales of Love, Inc. (Overnights: 1.9/ 3; Viewers: 2.03 million; A18-49: 0.8/ 2), Eve (Overnights: 1.8/ 3; Viewers: 1.75 million; A18-49: 0.8/ 2), and Cuts (Overnights: 1.7/ 3; Viewers: 1.78 million; A18-49: 0.8/ 2) from 8:30-10 p.m. If The CW wants to give Everybody Hates Chris a stronger platform next season, here’s an idea: Sunday at 8 p.m. Remember the days when The WB had an audience with Sunday comedies like The Jamie Foxx Show, The Steve Harvey Show and Sister, Sister? Why not go back to those more successful roots?

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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Either way SV is on a roll imagine if they had made this the 90 min special w/ movie footage like last year.

Come to think of it I dont even remember them publicising the SR trailer this year
 
NHawk19 said:
Either way SV is on a roll imagine if they had made this the 90 min special w/ movie footage like last year.

Come to think of it I dont even remember them publicising the SR trailer this year
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It was competing against the series finale of That 70's Show and the Xmen trailer. I think they are just holding off on all things propaganda until the CW starts up.

I think the results were pretty cool. :up:
 
avidreader said:
It was competing against the series finale of That 70's Show and the Xmen trailer. I think they are just holding off on all things propaganda until the CW starts up.

I think the results were pretty cool. :up:
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Isn't the finale of that 70s show NEXT week?

don't tell me i missed it!! :mad: :(
 
boyscouT said:
Isn't the finale of that 70s show NEXT week?

don't tell me i missed it!! :mad: :(
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Maybe I'm wrong. I dont watch it, I just thought I heard it was on last night.

Well apparently it was the last episode and Will and Grace was also on its next to last episode.
 
Smallville is still rocking it's target demo, 18-34 year old males. They're gonna jack us (my company) on ad rates come next season. We should be finding out next week, what that's gonna look like. The guy at the local affiliate here says Smallville is going to be the flagship show on the CW. :up:
 
how can it be a flagship show if its only got one season left?
 
i dont think anyone has said it officially, but that seems to be the general consensus belief around these parts. two at most.
i dont think Mercy Reef is going to carry the load. they better find a new super hero and quick.....like maybe a cyborg.......
 
I agree.
I think you can do alot more in a show with Cyborg rather than Aquaman.

BTW, The Season finale crap for That 70's Show was bull****.
The real final episode will come on next week.
The one last night was only an 1 1/2 hour featurette.

The season finale to Smallville last night was a little underwhelming though.
Even though that only means the next season will be better, with Clark in the Phantom Zone and such.
 
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