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SN has it's lighthearted and comedic moments as well.
I think the CW/WB think that a comic book may help SN out.
The comic book formula did wonders for Smallville. :cwink:
 
CW press release on DVR stats:

(For "Fierce" 10/11/07)

10/29/07, 4:11pm
THE CW REAPS DRAMATIC VIEWERSHIP GAINS FROM DVRS AND TIME-SHIFTING
Released by The CW

The CW Gains Additional 20% with DVRs in Adults 18-34 and Women 18-34; Scores Largest Percent Increase in Adults 18-49 for Week of 10/8/07

GOSSIP GIRL, TOP MODEL, REAPER, BEAUTY AND THE GEEK, SMALLVILLE and SUPERNATURAL Post Double-Digit Increases In Live Plus 7 Day Playback Ratings

October 29, 2007 (Burbank, CA) - The CW Network continues to score double-digit viewership increases with the inclusion of DVR playback, according to Nielsen Live Plus Seven Day ratings for the week of 10/8/07.

Overall, The CW's primetime weekly average was bolstered 20% in women 18-34 (1.86rtg v. 1.55rtg) and 20% in adults 18-34 (1.48 v. 1.23) according to Nielsen live-plus 7 day ratings vs. live only viewing. The CW also posted the largest percent gains for its weekly primetime average (19%, 1.34rtg v. 1.13rtg) of any network in adults 18-49.

"Gossip Girl," "America's Next Top Model," "Beauty and The Geek," "Reaper," "Smallville" and "Supernatural" all benefited tremendously from DVR usage, gaining 21-34% more viewers in its target demos who recorded and watched the shows within 7 days of its live broadcast.

For the week of 10/8/07:

"Gossip Girl" added 31% more women 18-34 (3.31rtg v. 2.53rtg) and 30% more adults 18-34 (2.05rtg v. 1.58rtg) in Live+7 DVR viewing compared to those who only watched live.

"Top Model" scored gains of 26% in women 18-34 (5.06rtg v. 4.02rtg) and 25% more adults 18-34 (3.13rtg v. 2.51rtg) in Live+7 DVR viewing compared to those who only watched live.

"Beauty and the Geek" added 24% more women 18-34 (2.61rtg v. 2.11rtg) and 24% more adults 18-34 (2.14rtg v. 1.73rtg) in Live+7 DVR viewing compared to those who only watched live.

"Reaper" gained an additional 29% more women 18-34 (1.57rtg v. 1.22rtg) and 34% more adults 18-34 (1.66rtg v. 1.24rtg) in Live+7 DVR viewing compared to those who only watched live.

"Smallville" saw increases of 26% in women 18-34 (2.17rtg v. 1.72rtg) and 32% more adults 18-34 (2.33rtg v. 1.76rtg) in Live+7 DVR viewing compared to those who only watched live.

"Supernatural" posted gains of 21% in women 18-34 (1.60rtg v. 1.32rtg) and 28% more adults 18-34 (1.25rtg v. 0.98rtg) in Live+7 DVR viewing compared to those who only watched live.


http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20071029cw01
 
That's interesting... and I'm not surprised. :yay:

I'm too impatient to wait, so I usually watch it LIVE, but the comercials are ridiculous! The second and third viewings are MUCH more enjoyable. My BF and boss always watch it recorded.

I'm glad to see better numbers for SN. That show has been great this year. I'm SO glad it follows SV because I can record them on the same DVD. Bonus. :yay:
 
"Thursday, the first night of sweeps, will see big-screen Supergirl Helen Slater return to her Kryptonian roots on the CW's Smallville as Clark Kent's alien mother."
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=1e88829e-3eb4-4417-8b8d-aca443e4c61b&sid=fd-news


^ That is just one of a few print and on-line articles that mention Helen Slater's appearance on SV and the November sweeps, which start tomorrow. Buddy TV points out that Slater will be in two of the three SV eps in November (Thanksgiving will be a repeat) and that will help ratings.

Here's my prediction: It's not going to mean squat. Dean Cain, yes. Helen Slater (who?), nope. I believe most of SV's audience have no clue who she is, and that goes for Marc I-am-"Hero" McClure too.

Numbers for "Lara" will be posted around noon this Friday. Lets see how this turns out. :yay:
 
I liked the "Supergirl" film for the most part. True, it wasn't as good as the original Christopher Reeve film, but it was a lot better than Superman III or IV.
 
Slater wont be a big ratings draw. The Supergirl film is like a cult movie at best.

She's in like the only truly bad film that Russell Crowe ever made, No Way Back...

*shudders*

Poor Russell, he only took that film because he was broke. Poor guy.

Going off of that film, I'm not sure Helen can act. She was pretty awful, so I don't know how big a draw she's going to be.
 
I was reading some articles on Buddy TV this morning, and this one about Smallville's ratings decline this season caught my eye. I was under the impression that Smallville was kicking butt in the ratings this season. Am I wrong??

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http://www.buddytv.com/articles/smallville/smallville-swoops-into-sweeps-13249.aspx

October 31, 2007

Smallville has been performing notably below par since returning for it's seventh season, but fear not - the Young Man of Steel's keepers are banking on the Superman franchise's princess, Helen Slater aka the original Supergirl, to bring the geeks salivating to their TV sets when Smallville flies - or runs really fast - into sweeps. Read on for the details of Slater's iconic appearance.

Slater, who played Kara in the 1984 feature film, will play the part of Lara, Clark's biological mother. Getting them together on the screen requires a bit of plot trickiness that we can't reveal here, but suffice to say Clark (Tom Welling) will be getting some one on one time with his long deceased mother.

Smallville will only feature three episodes during the sweeps period, with two of them featuring Slater. Smallville's diminished ratings have been getting an impressive double digit boost when the seven day DVR factors are taken into consideration, but by and large the show has suffered an uncharacteristic decline for what some predict may be the final season of Smallville.
Star Michael Rosenbaum, who plays Lex Luthor, has announced that he will retire from the show after this season, meaning that Luthor's transition from corporate baddie to renegade scientist/villain will take place at some point in the coming months. If this turns out to be the final season of Smallville, another transition may be waiting in the wings as well.

It has already been rumored that Tom Welling is in talks to play the part of Superman in a Justice League movie. While the productions have nothing but the property in common, it would make sense for Smallville to end in some way that dove tails with the feature film.
Since the film is not due out until 2010, there is still plenty of time for Welling to crank out another season of Smallville should the series continue, but the appearance of Welling in the iconic tights would, in most people's minds, present a paradigm shift that would essentially make it impossible for cast and fans to return to the Smallville vision of the Superman mythology. Only time will tell.


- Jon Lachonis, BuddyTV Senior Writer
(Image courtesy of the CW)
 
Smallville is doing better in ratings this year than before, it gets mentioned in the ratings summary every week. This guy is just uninformed. He also says JLA is coming out in 2010, which it isnt, its coming out in 2009. Not exactly a shining example of journalism here.
 
Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 11/01/07

The following results are based on the fast affiliate ratings (Live Plus Same Day data)

-Total Viewers:
CBS: 15.89 million, ABC: 12.56, Fox: 8.50, NBC: 7.96, CW: 3.80

-Adults 18-49:
ABC: 5.0 rating/13 share, CBS: 4.8/12, NBC: 3.7/ 9, Fox: 2.5/ 6, CW: 1.5/ 4

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Survivor: China (CBS), CSI (CBS), Grey’s Anatomy (ABC), Without a Trace (CBS)

-Honorable Mention:
The Office (NBC), Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (Fox)

-Yesterday’s Losers:
Big Shots (ABC)

Note: The listing of winners and losers are subject to change after the fast affiliate ratings are posted at PIFeedback.

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-Ratings Breakdown:
CBS opened the Nov. 2007 sweeps on a winning note in total viewers, while ABC was first among adults 18-49. NBC and Fox tied for the No. 3 and 4 spots, and the CW was fifth.

CBS’ veteran Survivor: China opened the evening on a winning note, with 14.32 million viewers and a 4.8 rating/13 share among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. Next was ABC’s Ugly Betty (Viewers: #2, 9.90 million; A18-49: #2, 3.4/ 9), which dipped by a hefty 3.72 million viewers and 23 percent among adults 18-49 from one year earlier (Viewers: 13.62 million; A18-49: 4.4/11 on Nov. 2, 2006). Tied for third in the hour was a one hour edition of NBC’s My Name is Earl and Fox’s Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?, which remains a vast improvement over year-ago occupants ‘Til Death and Happy Hour. Take a look:

My Name Is Earl (NBC)
Viewers: 7.29 million (#4), A18-49: 3.1/ 9 (#3)

Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (Fox)
Viewers: 8.43 million (#3), A18-49: 2.6/ 7 (#4)

Capping off the 8 p.m. was the CW’s Smallville with a typical 4.31 million viewers and a 1.7/ 5 in the demo.

Grey’s Anatomy finished first, as usual, among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m., while inching past CBS’ CSI in total viewers. Take a look:

Grey’s Anatomy (ABC)
Viewers: 18.76 million (#1), A18-49: 7.9/19 (#1)

CSI (CBS)
Viewers: 18.75 million (#2), A18-49: 5.6/13 (#2)

Another episode of Fox’s Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? was third in the hour in total viewers (#3: 8.58 million) and fourth in adults 18-49 (#4, 2.5/ 6). And NBC’s combination of The Office (Viewers: #4, 8.39 million; A18-49: #3, 4.5/11) and Scrubs (Viewers: #4, 6.68 million; A18-49: #3, 3.7/ 9) was just the opposite. At this point, it is time for Scrubs to officially end. Worth noting for The Office was the double-digit growth out of My Name is Earl among adults 18-49.

Capping off the 9 p.m. hour was the CW’s Supernatural at 3.28 million viewers and a 1.3/ 3 among adults 18-49.

First at 10 p.m. was CBS’ Without a Trace, at 14.62 million viewers and a 4.0/11 among adults 18-49. Second was NBC’s needs-to-be retired ER (Viewers: 9.06 million; A18-49: 3.9/11), followed by Big Shots on ABC at an approximate 9.01 million viewers and a 3.7/10 in the demo. I stress approximate because the first four or five minutes of the 10 p.m. half hour included Grey’s Anatomy. With that in mind, look how much Big Shots dropped in the second half-hour:

10:00 p.m. Grey’s Anatomy/Big Shots – Viewers: 11.21 million, A18-49: 4.7/12
10:30 p.m. Big Shots – Viewers: 6.81 million, A18-49: 2.8/ 8

Note to Big Shots: tick, tock…the cancellation clock is ticking!

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/21710238
 
Compared to "Action", that's a stepdown in total viewers for SV. It'll be interesting to see what happens when the final numbers and DVR figures come in.

SPN saw a slight increase.
 
And in all reality, Helen Slater WAS the only hook to this episode, outside of the return of Kara. Very little Lana, Lex, or even Clark.
 
Is 4-5 million a bad figure?

That, from someone who's from a country that has a population little over that. Guess that really popular shows top 20 million without breaking a sweat, but is 4-5 million bad enough to cancel the whole show? Or, what would be bad enough rating to cancel a show?

Or, are they just aiming to score from somewhere else than with viewer ratings, like DVD's and such.
 
Like Hulk said, it's a decent enough performance based on the average.

But it's a stepdown from where they've been at this season.
 
Personally, I think she did a good actress and did a good job of acting motherly.

I thought she was good too. I loved her performance. And even though we only got a couple of lines from Lara in Memoria, I thought Helen carried that through to her performance in last night's episode.
 
Read what I said. I didn't say her performance was bad.

I'm not one to argue with you Pat,:cwink: but isnt saying she's a poor actress more or less the same thing as saying her performance was bad. :huh:

Or were you implying that she's not very wealthy. :woot:
 
Good actors can turn in poor performances, and bad actors sometimes get lucky. Halle Berry, anybody?


Somebody over at TWOP is keeping track of the ratings for all CW shows (overall viewership).

This is really cool!! Check it out:
http://scwphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/3676393

I don't really get all the various ratings charts but knowing that there are lots of ways to look at the numbers, what is this person using to chart with? Is that the final number of total viewers - because don't the numbers tend to change after a day or so? And what about the DVR numbers, and the key demo numbers?

I'm still mystified by how different the ratings numbers are reported to be between K-sites and other places sometimes. I stopped comparing them and just hope that SV is doing well.

I also wonder how much TPTB factor in the previous episode as being the influence on the viewership for any given episode - let alone the competing programming for that night - i.e. sports finals.
 
Oooh, I also recently saw a cool and similar charting someone on LJ did tracking which characters were googled the most. It was.. interesting. I'll have to see if I can share that.
 
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