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CW already has its diehard teeniebopper drama show: OTH. They need to start thinking outside the box and stop tossing in the same rehashed teen stuff. Gossip girl...90210...ugh
 
CW already has its diehard teeniebopper drama show: OTH. They need to start thinking outside the box and stop tossing in the same rehashed teen stuff. Gossip girl...90210...ugh

Which is funny considering Gossip girl's ratings aren't really all that good.
 
Ratings 9/25/08

Against real competition, Kitchen Nightmares just got crushed in both hours, shedding almost a third of its viewers and demo adults from last week. Compared to that carnage, Smallville’s loss of only 6% of its viewers and a tick in each demo seems positively heroic. Supernatural, on the other hand, lost 18% of its viewers and about a quarter of its demo adults from last week.

Time Net Show Viewers Live+SD (Millons) 18-49 Rating/ Share 18-34 Rating/ Share
8:00
CBS Survivor: Gabon (8-10p) (premiere) 13.052 4.5/13 2.8/9 ABC Ugly Betty (premiere) 9.775 3.3/9 3.5/11 NBC My Name is Earl (premiere) 6.398 2.7/8 2.6/8 FOX Kitchen Nightmares 4.177 1.9/5 1.9/6 CW Smallville 4.104 1.7/5 1.7/5
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/26/thursday-september-25-greys-anatomy-boosts-abc/5332

not too shabby, still north of 4 million. SN didnt fare as well unfortunately
 
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Beat me to it Hulk but check this out

mediaweek/Marc Berman said:
-Yesterday’s Winners:
Grey’s Anatomy (ABC)

-Down But Far From Out:
Survivor: Gabon (CBS), Ugly Betty (ABC)

-Honorable Mention:
The Office (NBC)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):

My Name is Earl (NBC), Kitchen Nightmares (Fox), ER (NBC)


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-Ratings Breakdown:
ABC won this first Thursday of the 2008-09 season with ease, beating second-place CBS by a hefty 32 percent in the overnights. Keep in mind, however, that CBS aired a repeat of CSI at 10 p.m. last night. In the distant number three spot was NBC, followed by Fox and the CW.


The two-hour season-opening edition of CBS’ Survivor: Gabon kicked-off at a depressed 7.5 rating/12 share from 8-10 p.m., with the half-hour breakdown as follows:


Survivor: Gabon (CBS) – season premiere
8:00 p.m. 7.6/12 (#1)
8:30 p.m. 7.8/12 (#1)
9:00 p.m. 7.4/11 (#2)
9:30 p.m. 7.3/11 (#2)

One year earlier, Survivor: China opened with an 8.7/14 in the overnights on Thursday, Sept. 20, 2007. And the year before that was Survivor: Cook Islands at a 10.2/16 on Sept. 21, 2006. So, yes, Survivor is down…but not out by any means. Keep in mind that Survivor will easily win the 8 p.m. hour among adults 18-49.


Survivor: Gabon led into a repeat of CSI at a second-place 6.8/11 at 10 p.m. -- 15 percent ahead of the season-premiere of NBC’s veteran ER (5.9/10). Comparably, ER declined by a considerable 20 percent from it’s year-ago season-opener on Sept. 27, 2007 (7.4/12). While ER is, of course, ending this season, it probably should have concluded three or four years ago.


Earlier in the evening on NBC was the one-hour season premieres of My Name is Earl (#3: 4.3/ 7 from 8-9 p-.m.), which was down by 23 percent year-to-year, and The Office (#3: 5.8/ 9 from 9-10 p.m.), which actually increased by four percent. Worth noting for The Office was growth of 29 percent from the second half of My Name is Earl. And keep in mind, of course, that The Office always manages to generate solid interest among the key young adult demographics. As for My Name is Earl, I just don’t get it. Do you?


The third season-premiere of ABC’s Ugly Betty finished second in the 8 p.m. hour, with a 6.7/11 in the overnights. Comparably, that was down by 18 percent from it’s year-ago season-opener (8.2/13 on Sept. 27, 2007). Ugly Betty led into the two-hour season-premiere of Grey’s Anatomy, which won the 9-11 p.m. block with an 11.0/17 in the overnights -- the highest rated show of the evening. As good as that still it, Grey’s was down by 13 percent from the 12.6/19 it opened in the overnights with one year earlier. And that was opposite an original installment of CSI. Here is the half-hour breakdown:


Grey’s Anatomy (ABC)
9:00 p.m. 10.8/16 (#1)

9:30 p.m. 11.1/17 (#1)

10:00 p.m. 11.0/17 (#1)
10:30 p.m. 11.0/17 (#1)

Two episodes of Fox’s Kitchen Nightmares could not compete, with an average 3.2/ 5 in the overnights from 8-10 p.m. And original episodes of the CW’s Smallville (#5: 2.8/ 4) and Supernatural (#5: 2.5/ 4) were close to week-ago levels. Considering the severity of the competition this week, that is not a bad thing. As a reminder, Smallville is not ending in midseason as I reported on my Fall TV Preview webcast earlier this week. It could, in fact, return for a ninth season if the audience stays with the show. Are you game, folks?


As a reminder, there is a LIVE chat today at 12 p.m. ET at PIFeedback on everything TV! Click www.PIFeedback.com, then Go (top left), Chat Rooms and TV Talk


Source: Nielsen Media Research data
 
Half hour breakdowns from Marc Berman at PiFeedback:

Smallville
8:00 p.m. V: 3.97 million, A18-49: 1.6/ 5
8:30 p.m. V: 4.24 million, A18-49: 1.8/ 5

Supernatural
9:00 p.m. V: 3.20 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 3
9:30 p.m. V: 3.28 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 3



EDIT:

Gabriela in the Pifeedback forums posted the finals from last week as well. Look!

1 SMALLVILLE P 4,344
2 AMERICA’S TOP MODEL-5 4,262
3 FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN 4,083
4 SUPERNATURAL P 3,955
5 GOSSIP GIRL-MON 3,732
6 ONE TREE HILL-MON 3,369
7 90210 3,288
8 PRIVILEGED 2,432
9 90210-ENC R 1,923
10 AMERICA’S TOP MODEL5-ENC R 1,553
11 ONE TREE HILL-ENC R 1,178
12 PRIVILEGED-ENC R 1,098

Wow. :)
 
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See those numbers CW...start putting your major money and backing behind the real powerhouse show...not your lame-o soapy copycat shows. :cmad:
 
Half hour breakdowns from Marc Berman at PiFeedback:

Smallville
8:00 p.m. V: 3.97 million, A18-49: 1.6/ 5
8:30 p.m. V: 4.24 million, A18-49: 1.8/ 5

Supernatural
9:00 p.m. V: 3.20 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 3
9:30 p.m. V: 3.28 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 3



EDIT:

Gabriela in the Pifeedback forums posted the finals from last week as well. Look!

1 SMALLVILLE P 4,344
2 AMERICA’S TOP MODEL-5 4,262
3 FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN 4,083
4 SUPERNATURAL P 3,955
5 GOSSIP GIRL-MON 3,732
6 ONE TREE HILL-MON 3,369
7 90210 3,288
8 PRIVILEGED 2,432
9 90210-ENC R 1,923
10 AMERICA’S TOP MODEL5-ENC R 1,553
11 ONE TREE HILL-ENC R 1,178
12 PRIVILEGED-ENC R 1,098

Wow. :)
This show is just f'n unbelievable. It's audience is so loyal.

You can almost set a clock to the number of viewers watching it week in week out. If any other show on any other network saw as little promotion as Smallville does it would slowly die a ratings death.

It's really sad that I can name the top shows on NBC, ABC, CBS, and FOX based on the way they promote them. With CW you'd think Gossip Girl, 90210 and ANTM were number one.

To further confuse the situation for me; it's not as if Smallville is #1 in categories that don't generate ad revenues. Smallville is #1 in overall viewers on CW, and it beats the tar out of most shows (on any network) in the key demo's.

This has to be case of serious hubris. With some exec at CW just determined to shove stuff down people's throats instead of using their top money maker to generate even more revenue.
 
LOL @ 90210 being 7th after all that hype during the summer.:grin:
 
LOL @ 90210 being 7th after all that hype during the summer.:grin:


The problem with the CW is they seem to feel that all they need to do to stay afloat is keep putting on shows about rich people doing bad things.

I mean 90210, privileged, and Gossip Girl are practically the same show with different characters. A person could turn on any of them and think it was one of the other shows. I mean ARRGH! :down
 
The problem with the CW is they seem to feel that all they need to do to stay afloat is keep putting on shows about rich people doing bad things.

I mean 90210, privileged, and Gossip Girl are practically the same show with different characters. A person could turn on any of them and think it was one of the other shows. I mean ARRGH! :down

LOL..Yeah I don't get it. I have yet to watch one episode. And to think the CW gives us those shows instead of a Green Arrow spin off.:down
 
Yea, to be fair, if it was still the WB, we would have an Aquaman show to enjoy (assuming it was good) but it was the merger that axed it.

But I'm actually glad they didn't go through with it, since then we got Green Arrow and the Justice League. Green Arrow being one of my favorite additions to the Smallville universe. :up:
 
Yea, to be fair, if it was still the WB, we would have an Aquaman show to enjoy (assuming it was good) but it was the merger that axed it.

But I'm actually glad they didn't go through with it, since then we got Green Arrow and the Justice League. Green Arrow being one of my favorite additions to the Smallville universe. :up:

Yeah I guess in hindsight everything worked out. I think Hartley is an awesome Green Arrow. Hopefully when the show is over we can get some sort of spin-off.
 
LOL @ 90210 being 7th after all that hype during the summer.:grin:

go out to Monster.com and see if u can find Ostroff's resume...

Imagine if Smallville was on NBC or Fox.

It almost was on NBC. They wanted it BADLY, but WB kept it to themselves. They also stole TW right out from under Fox's nose too. Fox loved him on "Undeclared" and wanted to ink him to another skein at the time AL & Miles came in and offered him Smallville.
 
go out to Monster.com and see if u can find Ostroff's resume...



It almost was on NBC. They wanted it BADLY, but WB kept it to themselves. They also stole TW right out from under Fox's nose too. Fox loved him on "Undeclared" and wanted to ink him to another skein at the time AL & Miles came in and offered him Smallville.

Yeah I heard that NBC wanted to buy Smallville. That would have been interesting. Never knew that Fox wanted to sign Welling though.
 
Crazy to think what Smallville may have been like on NBC.
 
Good to hear smallville stay above 4million viewers. Also good to see its still the number 1 scripted drama show on the network. To bad stupid Dawn O is all for the crap woman demo stuff. As for a jla/ga solo spinoff is less likely to happen while Dawn O is in charge. And yea if smallville was on nbc/cbs/even fox or abc man ratings probably would be in the 10-20million range.
 
Crazy to think what Smallville may have been like on NBC.

they would've likely had some more budget to play with, then again on that Net 4-5 million viewers doesnt cut it.

or it could've been turned into some lame combination of Friday Night Lights and Heroes. *shudders*

Good to hear smallville stay above 4million viewers. Also good to see its still the number 1 scripted drama show on the network. To bad stupid Dawn O is all for the crap woman demo stuff. As for a jla/ga solo spinoff is less likely to happen while Dawn O is in charge. And yea if smallville was on nbc/cbs/even fox or abc man ratings probably would be in the 10-20million range.

actually her boss Les Moonves was the one who allegedly put the kibosh on the Aquaman series, saying he "didnt want any more Superhero shows," meanwhile the Sci Fi shows on the Network are the ones saving his ass from complete and total failure.
 
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or it could've been turned into some lame combination of Friday Night Lights and Heroes. *shudders*

You are not bashing on my 2nd TV love, FNL, are you Hulk?
'Cause, I'd have to take you down if you are. I'm a lot tougher than I look too.

:ninja::oldrazz:
 
Half hour breakdowns from Marc Berman at PiFeedback:

Smallville
8:00 p.m. V: 3.97 million, A18-49: 1.6/ 5
8:30 p.m. V: 4.24 million, A18-49: 1.8/ 5

Supernatural
9:00 p.m. V: 3.20 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 3
9:30 p.m. V: 3.28 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 3



EDIT:

Gabriela in the Pifeedback forums posted the finals from last week as well. Look!

1 SMALLVILLE P 4,344
2 AMERICA’S TOP MODEL-5 4,262
3 FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN 4,083
4 SUPERNATURAL P 3,955
5 GOSSIP GIRL-MON 3,732
6 ONE TREE HILL-MON 3,369
7 90210 3,288
8 PRIVILEGED 2,432
9 90210-ENC R 1,923
10 AMERICA’S TOP MODEL5-ENC R 1,553
11 ONE TREE HILL-ENC R 1,178
12 PRIVILEGED-ENC R 1,098

Wow. :)

Didn't CW cancel Smackdown? That is their 3rd highest rated show of the season and they canned it! :huh: It seems like all the shows that Dawn wanted to succeed(90210, GG, Privaleged) didn't do to hot, but the ones she didn't care about(Smallville, Supernatural, Smackdown)all did great. All of them just happen to start with an S to. :huh:
 
Being that this is the last season for Smallville, isn't following ratings kind of pointless now? I'm not saying its stupid to follow it, but whenever I followed any ratings, it was for the sole purpose of the show being renewed. Now that its not really an issue anymore, is there really any point to it?
 
Being that this is the last season for Smallville, isn't following ratings kind of pointless now? I'm not saying its stupid to follow it, but whenever I followed any ratings, it was for the sole purpose of the show being renewed. Now that its not really an issue anymore, is there really any point to it?
Yes, because the show's producers and some of its cast keep talking about a 9th season. Even Marc Berman of Media Week noted that possibility today:

Mark Berman said:
...As a reminder, Smallville is not ending in midseason as I reported on my Fall TV Preview webcast earlier this week. It could, in fact, return for a ninth season if the audience stays with the show.
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/content...wsletters/e3i6d1955ff988810b8798daf1fe1c38132
 
Upon further review of Berman's PiFeedback forum, it appears the network doesn't want it to end at seven. Dawn Ostroff called Berman personally to inform him of such. It's all in the forums there. Even Craig from K-Site posted a few comments.

What a revelation. Season nine? Wow. Just wow... :wow:
 
Half hour breakdowns from Marc Berman at PiFeedback:

Smallville
8:00 p.m. V: 3.97 million, A18-49: 1.6/ 5
8:30 p.m. V: 4.24 million, A18-49: 1.8/ 5

Supernatural
9:00 p.m. V: 3.20 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 3
9:30 p.m. V: 3.28 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 3



EDIT:

Gabriela in the Pifeedback forums posted the finals from last week as well. Look!

1 SMALLVILLE P 4,344
2 AMERICA’S TOP MODEL-5 4,262
3 FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN 4,083
4 SUPERNATURAL P 3,955
5 GOSSIP GIRL-MON 3,732
6 ONE TREE HILL-MON 3,369
7 90210 3,288
8 PRIVILEGED 2,432
9 90210-ENC R 1,923
10 AMERICA’S TOP MODEL5-ENC R 1,553
11 ONE TREE HILL-ENC R 1,178
12 PRIVILEGED-ENC R 1,098

Wow. :)

It still doesn't count the Tivo numbers right?

It's incredible of Smallville being CW's number 1 show. #1 OF.ALL.CW's. SHOWS.

And being in its eight season. :cwink:
 
It has been the number one scripted drama show on the network since it started on cw in season 6.
 
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