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What was SV up against last year? Lost??? If that was the case, now that those 2 are on at separate times you've freed up a major portion of the group who would watch SV.
 
I think the opener was so good it got people to view in for a second time, this episode was an early step in the wrong FOTW direction and hopefully the next episode gets back into the story line being opened from the first. If not ratings could be gradually decreasing. GET BACK TO THE STORY! I don't want 5 minutes of story telling and the rest to be filler crap. :mad:
 
jas01724 said:
Wasn't that referring to Smallville losing overall viewers, not to the Thursday @ 8:00 timeslot losing viewers? It was always going to perform better than Blue Collar TV ...

True.
 
NHawk19 said:
What was SV up against last year? Lost??? If that was the case, now that those 2 are on at separate times you've freed up a major portion of the group who would watch SV.

Lost was owning that time slot last year, it was terrible. Smallville seems to be in a great timeslot now, though. I'm thinking it will do well this year, especially since it seems the writing is much better than last year.

A loyal audience good writing makes.:supes:
 
\S/JcDc\S/ said:
I think the opener was so good it got people to view in for a second time, this episode was an early step in the wrong FOTW direction and hopefully the next episode gets back into the story line being opened from the first. If not ratings could be gradually decreasing. GET BACK TO THE STORY! I don't want 5 minutes of story telling and the rest to be filler crap. :mad:
yeah but Mortal was a boring piss poor ep IMO
 
\S/JcDc\S/ said:
I think the opener was so good it got people to view in for a second time, this episode was an early step in the wrong FOTW direction and hopefully the next episode gets back into the story line being opened from the first. If not ratings could be gradually decreasing. GET BACK TO THE STORY! I don't want 5 minutes of story telling and the rest to be filler crap. :mad:


this wasnt just a FOTW episode, if thats all you saw then you missed the point. Yes there were freaks, but they were being used by Lex to test Clark, they werent just random freaks who went after Lana for no reason... That entire episode last night was dedicated to storytelling, I'm not sure what you were watching...

Chicken&IceTEA said:
yeah but Mortal was a boring piss poor ep IMO

Ladies and Germs, may I present, the latest incarnation of "muscles"
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
this wasnt just a FOTW episode, if thats all you saw then you missed the point. Yes there were freaks, but they were being used by Lex to test Clark, they werent just random freaks who went after Lana for no reason... That entire episode last night was dedicated to storytelling, I'm not sure what you were watching...

Agree with you the whole way. You have to not see bad guys with powers and automatically assume just another FOW. Look at the overall plot and story. The pacing was wonderful, and the FOW had to do with the overall plot of the show. Like Hulk said they weren't just Lanasizing.

You should try to be more open-minded.
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
Ladies and Germs, may I present, the latest incarnation of "muscles"
Mmm... I don't think so. He's still here, but that's not him. :cool:



Muscles, my teeth are gonna explode one of these days. :p
 
More good news from The WB on the ratings front... The press release was on Kryptonsite:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/s5ratings2.htm

More Good Ratings For Smallville

The WB has issued a press release detailing the ratings success of "Mortal," the second episode of Smallville Season Five. Here it is:

THE WB THURSDAY ACHIEVES ITS BEST-EVER PERFORMANCE IN MEN 18-34 AND MEN 18-49 FOR SECOND CONSECUTIVE WEEK

“EVERWOOD” JOINS THE WB'S THURSDAY NIGHT PARTY WITH +240% YEAR-TO-YEAR GROWTH IN ADULTS 18-34 AND ADULTS 18-49 AS “SMALLVILLE” RANKS #1 IN ITS TIME PERIOD AMONG MEN 18-34 AND #2 IN ADULTS 18-34, PERSONS 12-34 AND MEN 12-34
“EVERWOOD” RANKS #3 IN ITS TIME PERIOD AMONG WOMEN 18-34 AND WOMEN 12-34

THE WB IS #3 FOR THURSDAY IN ALL 18-34 AND 12-34 DEMOS AND SCORES +167% GAINS OVER THE PARALLEL WEEK LAST SEASON IN ADULTS 18-34

The WB's Thursday lineup built on its outstanding opening performance last week again achieving THE NETWORK'S ALL-TIME BEST-EVER THURSDAY RATINGS among men 18-34 (2.5/8) and men 18-49 (2.2/6) and its highest ratings in adults 18-49 (2.2/6) since October 2001. Among adults 18-34 (2.4/7), persons 12-34 (2.2/7) and women 18-49 (2.1/5), The WB achieved its best Thursday ratings since January 2003.

EVERWOOD achieved tremendous year-to-year gains compared to the parallel week last year in all key demos, including +240% in adults 18-34 (1.7/5), +240% in adults 18-49 (1.7/4) and +220% in persons 12-34 (1.6/5) as well as +239% in total viewers (4 million). Impressively, EVERWOOD, which was #3 in its time period among women 18-34 and women 12-34, showed greater gains in male demos (+250% in men 18-34), despite going up against a baseball playoff game on Fox.

EVERWOOD also established itself as a winner on Thursday compared to its first outing this season with +31% gains among adults 18-34 and adults 18-49 as well as +23% in persons 12-34 and +15% in total viewers.

SMALLVILLE, in its second week on Thursday, again established itself as a major player on the night. SMALLVILLE WON ITS TIME PERIOD, RANKING #1 in men 18-34 and was #2, defeating “Joey” and “Will and Grace” on NBC, “Alias” on ABC, “Everybody Hates Chris” on UPN and baseball on Fox, in adults 18-34 (3.0/10), persons 12-34 (2.8/9) and men 12-34 (3.0/11) and was #3 in women 18-34 (2.6/8) and women 12-34 (2.6/8). SMALLVILLE improved its time period over the parallel week last season in all 18-34, 18-49 and 12-34 demos, including +131% in adults 18-34, +86% in adults 18-49 and +115% in persons 12-34, as well as +87% in total viewers (5.9 million).

For the night, the record-breaking WB lineup, was #3 across all 18-34 and 12-34 demos from 8-10 p.m. and built over the parallel week in all 18-34, 18-49 and 12-34 demos, including +167% in adults 18-34 (2.4/7), +144% in adults 18-49 (2.2/6) and persons 12-34 (2.2/7) as well as +129% in total viewers (4.9 million).
 
Because of the second episode being meidocre just watch the ratings go down next week :down

They should have better continued from episode 1, possibly making it a 2 parter :o
 
triplet said:
More good news from The WB on the ratings front... The press release was on Kryptonsite:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/s5ratings2.htm

More Good Ratings For Smallville

The WB has issued a press release detailing the ratings success of "Mortal," the second episode of Smallville Season Five. Here it is:


THE WB THURSDAY ACHIEVES ITS BEST-EVER PERFORMANCE IN MEN 18-34 AND MEN 18-49 FOR SECOND CONSECUTIVE WEEK


“EVERWOOD” JOINS THE WB'S THURSDAY NIGHT PARTY WITH +240% YEAR-TO-YEAR GROWTH IN ADULTS 18-34 AND ADULTS 18-49 AS “SMALLVILLE” RANKS #1 IN ITS TIME PERIOD AMONG MEN 18-34 AND #2 IN ADULTS 18-34, PERSONS 12-34 AND MEN 12-34
“EVERWOOD” RANKS #3 IN ITS TIME PERIOD AMONG WOMEN 18-34 AND WOMEN 12-34

THE WB IS #3 FOR THURSDAY IN ALL 18-34 AND 12-34 DEMOS AND SCORES +167% GAINS OVER THE PARALLEL WEEK LAST SEASON IN ADULTS 18-34

The WB's Thursday lineup built on its outstanding opening performance last week again achieving THE NETWORK'S ALL-TIME BEST-EVER THURSDAY RATINGS among men 18-34 (2.5/8) and men 18-49 (2.2/6) and its highest ratings in adults 18-49 (2.2/6) since October 2001. Among adults 18-34 (2.4/7), persons 12-34 (2.2/7) and women 18-49 (2.1/5), The WB achieved its best Thursday ratings since January 2003.

EVERWOOD achieved tremendous year-to-year gains compared to the parallel week last year in all key demos, including +240% in adults 18-34 (1.7/5), +240% in adults 18-49 (1.7/4) and +220% in persons 12-34 (1.6/5) as well as +239% in total viewers (4 million). Impressively, EVERWOOD, which was #3 in its time period among women 18-34 and women 12-34, showed greater gains in male demos (+250% in men 18-34), despite going up against a baseball playoff game on Fox.

EVERWOOD also established itself as a winner on Thursday compared to its first outing this season with +31% gains among adults 18-34 and adults 18-49 as well as +23% in persons 12-34 and +15% in total viewers.

SMALLVILLE, in its second week on Thursday, again established itself as a major player on the night. SMALLVILLE WON ITS TIME PERIOD, RANKING #1 in men 18-34 and was #2, defeating “Joey” and “Will and Grace” on NBC, “Alias” on ABC, “Everybody Hates Chris” on UPN and baseball on Fox, in adults 18-34 (3.0/10), persons 12-34 (2.8/9) and men 12-34 (3.0/11) and was #3 in women 18-34 (2.6/8) and women 12-34 (2.6/8). SMALLVILLE improved its time period over the parallel week last season in all 18-34, 18-49 and 12-34 demos, including +131% in adults 18-34, +86% in adults 18-49 and +115% in persons 12-34, as well as +87% in total viewers (5.9 million).

For the night, the record-breaking WB lineup, was #3 across all 18-34 and 12-34 demos from 8-10 p.m. and built over the parallel week in all 18-34, 18-49 and 12-34 demos, including +167% in adults 18-34 (2.4/7), +144% in adults 18-49 (2.2/6) and persons 12-34 (2.2/7) as well as +129% in total viewers (4.9 million).



That is so totally cool! And with next week's episode looking like a real winner things are looking good.:up: :)
 
I was gonna post this and you did first, oh well.:o


Let's hope they keep it up, because it is just great that it is doing so well!:up: :)

Let Everwood stick that in it's pipe and smoke it. hehe:D
 
I think with all the actual realistic drama from this week things will continue to do well. One great mythology episode then one very dramatic character driven one, next Marsters, things are looking good =)
 
Well it is great to see the ratings take such a nice jump. I hope WB and the producers recognize this and keep moving towards a strong story and not give us clark and lana up and downs. Lets keep the story moving with Lana being a major character. Not just the girl that keeps getting pissed at him everytime he runs off. I hope they keep their promise. Have Clark step up and be the man he is meant to be. But overall I havent had any real complaints. Lana and Clark getting together was handled with class.
 
Here's a recap, for those making comparisons:

Arrival:

Men 18-34 (3.5/12) #1
Men 18-49 (2.2/9) #2
Men 12-34 (3.3/11) #1

Adults 18-34 (3.1/9)
Adults 18-49 (2.6/7)
Persons 12-34 (3.0/9)
Households: 3.5/6
Total viewers (5.9M)

Gain over last year's time period:
+138% in adults 18-34
+131% in persons 12-34


Mortal:

Men 18-34 (2.5/8) #1
Men 18-49 (2.2/6)
Men 12-34 (3.0/11) #2

Women 18-34 (2.6/8) #3
Women 18-49 (2.1/5)
Women 12-34 (2.6/8) #3

Adults 18-34 (3.0/10) #2
Adults 18-49 (2.6/7) #3
Persons 12-34 (2.8/9) #2
Households (3.6/6) (up 2.86%)
Total viewers (5.9M)

Gain over last year's time period:
+131% in adults 18-34
+86% in adults 18-49
+115% in persons 12-34
+87% in total viewers


Rating: Percentage of all households. Each point represents 1,102,000 households, or 1 percent of the nation's estimated 110.2 million TV homes.
Share: Percentage of in-use televisions tuned to a given show.
#: Overall rank of program in said category for the night

Example of how ratings work.
 
Michael Corleone said:
Well it is great to see the ratings take such a nice jump. I hope WB and the producers recognize this and keep moving towards a strong story and not give us clark and lana up and downs. Lets keep the story moving with Lana being a major character. Not just the girl that keeps getting pissed at him everytime he runs off. I hope they keep their promise. Have Clark step up and be the man he is meant to be. But overall I havent had any real complaints. Lana and Clark getting together was handled with class.


on point
 
\S/JcDc\S/ said:
Because of the second episode being meidocre just watch the ratings go down next week :down

They should have better continued from episode 1, possibly making it a 2 parter :o

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AgentPat said:
Here's a recap, for those making comparisons:





Rating: Percentage of all households. Each point represents 1,102,000 households, or 1 percent of the nation's estimated 110.2 million TV homes.
Share: Percentage of in-use televisions tuned to a given show.
#: Overall rank of program in said category for the night

Example of how ratings work.

Thanks for posting that Pat.

"-- The number of actual total viewers CANNOT be determined from the household rating/share. Unfortunately, we do not have access to the total viewers numbers on a daily basis."

Does this mean they cant tell how many people within a household watches?
 
avidreader said:
I agree, if I wanted to read so many negative posts I'd go over to Ksite. I'm sick to death of it.


See I dont mind negative posts, if they at least give some well thought out reason as to why they feel the show fell short. When I have an issue with the show, I explain it from my perspective in more than 3 words. It's the crap where people post:

"FOTW :down:"

"Lame"

"It's raping the mythology" (even though they've never read a pre-Byrne comic)

"teh epsiode was suXX0rx"

when you know theyre doing it just to try and be jerks and troll the forums. :down:
 
avidreader said:
Thanks for posting that Pat.

"-- The number of actual total viewers CANNOT be determined from the household rating/share. Unfortunately, we do not have access to the total viewers numbers on a daily basis."

Does this mean they cant tell how many people within a household watches?
Correct. Nielsen boxes (and other forms of devices used for recording viewership) can't confirm that a television that's turned on and tuned into a particular channel at a particular time actually has a set of eyes watching it. The only thing they know is the demographic of members living in the households rigged with such devices.
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
See I dont mind negative posts, if they at least give some well thought out reason as to why they feel the show fell short. When I have an issue with the show, I explain it from my perspective in more than 3 words. It's the crap where people post:

"FOTW :down:"

"Lame"

"It's raping the mythology" (even though they've never read a pre-Byrne comic)

"teh epsiode was suXX0rx"

when you know theyre doing it just to try and be jerks and troll the forums. :down:

Precisely.

And your right, negative criticism can be good, as it can enable you to see things in a different light, and perhaps a rebuttal can also make the initial critic see things in a different light as well. That is what discussion is all about.
 
AgentPat said:
Correct. Nielsen boxes (and other forms of devices used for recording viewership) can't confirm that a television that's turned on and tuned into a particular channel at a particular time actually has a set of eyes watching it. The only thing they know is the demographic of members living in the households rigged with such devices.

I dont have a Nielsen box, so I guess I dont count. But during Arrival there were six people watching in my house watching on one TV set, and last night there were six people again, watching on two TV sets.
 
AgentPat said:
Correct. Nielsen boxes (and other forms of devices used for recording viewership) can't confirm that a television that's turned on and tuned into a particular channel at a particular time actually has a set of eyes watching it. The only thing they know is the demographic of members living in the households rigged with such devices.

It seems to be an archaic way of getting a percentage to me. Do they make sure that every household that gets one has access to all of the channels? I just think the system needs to be updated.
 
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