Justice League Re-cast Hal Jordan for JL movie? Yay or Nay?

[Rorschach2012]

The question is how did you feel about the GL mythos going into the film? It seems to me that people who think GL was absolutely horrid were tough sells. I'm predisposed to ambivalent feelings on Superman, which is why it took 6 live-action films for me to finally enjoy one about him. On the GLC boards, members run somewhere between slight disappointment and satisfaction that GL got a live film. The fact that people are still arguing the merits (or lack of) of the film is proof to me that it couldn't have been "worst ever" material.

Movies like Man-Thing and Jonah Hex are more logical choices for worst comic book films. Those are the kinds of films that the GA don't even know exist. They came and went without notice, which is the true touch of death for a comic book adaptation. If it doesn't create any kind of buzz, therefore not making new fans, then it is truly a failure.

I'm a massive fan, I had read Geoff John's whole run in anticipation of the movie. It's hard to think of something more disappointing than that piece of absolute garbage.

 

[DChero]

I'm a massive fan, I had read Geoff John's whole run in anticipation of the movie. It's hard to think of something more disappointing than that piece of absolute garbage.

I really wasn't too disappointed in the movie. There are a lot of things that I would change if I could (villains, kept the pace up after the death of Abin Sur, more Sinestro, etc), but I still watch it from time to time because it's still enjoyable to me.

The big shame to me is that it won't have a direct sequel after the way that it ended, because I believe that a sequel would have done much better. If we would have gotten the Hal vs Sinestro face-off in the next movie then all would be forgiven in my book.

I can somewhat relate to how you feel about it with my Iron Man 3 experience. I was oh so excited to finally see the classic Iron Man vs the Mandarin. Once the 'twist' happened, I wanted to walk out. I was just being a dramatic fan boy, but I was so let down that I haven't been able to enjoy a Marvel universe movie since. I'm pretty lame, heh.

 

[Rorschach2012]

The sequel would've undoubtedly been better. The first film should've been Hal against Sinestro in the first place. I could've forgiven the first film if the second was good enough.

The only scene I liked in the entire movie is the scene with Abin and Parallax. Still badass

 

[TommyJones1945]

Happy you found a scene you liked, I on the other hand wasn't so lucky. Everything about that movie was wrong.

The actors, the direction, the parts of the mythos they used for an introduction movie(How do you turn a giant yellow bug made out of fear into a space turd?) I enjoyed absolutely nothing about that movie. CIN.

 

[DChero]

The sequel would've undoubtedly been better. The first film should've been Hal against Sinestro in the first place. I could've forgiven the first film if the second was good enough.

The only scene I liked in the entire movie is the scene with Abin and Parallax. Still badass

That's where I think that the pacing was at it's best. The movie flowed quickly and had a lot of excitement. I really liked the training sequence and the battle with Parallax too.

Happy you found a scene you liked, I on the other hand wasn't so lucky. Everything about that movie was wrong.

The actors, the direction, the parts of the mythos they used for an introduction movie(How do you turn a giant yellow bug made out of fear into a space turd?) I enjoyed absolutely nothing about that movie. CIN.

It wasn't a great design. I wish that they would have meshed Parallax and Hammond. Essentially replacing Hammond with a more grounded Parallax if that makes sense.

I did enjoy Reynolds, Clark Duncan and Strong a lot.

 

[TommyJones1945]

Mind I ask, How would you ground Parallax?

 

[goh78]

I think in all the annuls of Comic-dom, GL has the easiest 'Reboot" of them all; just go with John Stewart and move forward.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Mind I ask, How would you ground Parallax?

Keep in mind grounded isn't a synonym for realistic. The buzzword for the Amazing Spider-Man series is "grounded" with the point being made that the two terms are different.

Personally, I'd have explored Parallax as a more Lovecraftian archetype, and like a Hyra, where if one head is cut off, two more grow in its place (ie Parallax as a singular entity would exist in separate places for my idea). Nothing the film presented showed why Parallax is the embodiment of fear.

A weakened Parallax, imprisoned in the Central Power Battery (due to an allegory Pax Lanternica, with many worlds feeling safe and free from real fear) uses the last of its power, built up and stored over millennia to break out of the Battery, a few Lanterns die in the battle, but Parallax is seemingly defeated by Sinestro and Abin Sur, how it actually imprints itself upon the Oan technology of their rings.

Abin Sur is charged with the honour of returning fallen Lanterns to their homeworlds (hence the spaceship) and then he is given leave to return to Ungara. Parallax then imprints itself up Abin's mind and then the battle from the 2011 film occurs with Abin dying and flying to Earth.

Hal inherits the ring and goes to Oa. Parallax begins to imprint himself upon Hal Jordan's mind, and sometimes Hal has flashes to his fathers crash, due to this Hal accidentally overcomes the yellow impurity (Parallax still exists within the rings of Hal and Sinestro, and therefore the whole corps). Hal begins to truly know fear (perhaps his temples grey?).

Sinestro still rallies the Corps together, but although together the Corps is invulnerable, this does not help with the fear of an individual Lantern. On Earth Parallax has infected Hector Hammond and slowly, the world, more wars are being fought globally, based on race, religion and diversity, things that stereotypically men are afraid of, the things they don't understand.

Hal eventually returns to Earth after coming and going, then going for a very long time, to find that it's on the brink of ruin, the US and any other major power are threatening to go to war (but both sides are actually to anxious to do anything), riots break out in cities worldwide the world economy has crashed because hundreds of millions are too afraid to do anything, even go out and work, the world is frozen in fear and society is deteriorating.

Hal, by this point has taken care of Hector and proven that people don't need to be afraid and, satisfied he's done his job, goes home and charges his ring. He speaks the oath, and the emerald light begins pouring out of the lantern, uncontrollably, but little of the energy is going to Hal, it's all fattening up Parallax, and crawling his way up from the depths of Coast City, having fattened up itself on the fear of the people of Earth confronts Hal. Hal, and the power in his ring will be the last to fall before Parallax challenges Oa itself.

Hal throws up his defences, but cracks in his shield begin to appear, and Parallax begins leaking in, streams of yellow gaining access to Hal through his eyes and nostrils, Hal sees his father's death again, and Parallax has its opening, it tears down Hal's defences and forces itself Hal's throat. Hal is gone, only Parallax now.

On Oa, many Lanterns fight with Parallax, while Hal battles him internally (Hal would now appear in Parallax's armour/visage). Hal eventually gains the upper haind in the battle for his psyche: he knows Parallax is the impurity, he knows that overcoming his fathers death allowed him to overcome the impurity before, and it will do so again, Hal finally learns to let go of his fathers death. Parallax is choked, raising Hal's ring to the CPB, and begins saying the oath, Parallax is flushed out of Hal's system (not entirely) and returned to the CPB (minus what exists in Sinestro's ring).


I know it might not be clear in what I've written, but rather than being something to be afraid of, I'd try and get it across as much as possible Parallax is fear, the bad things caused are actions perpetrated by the hearts and minds of men.

I think in all the annuls of Comic-dom, GL has the easiest 'Reboot" of them all; just go with John Stewart and move forward.

Easy does not mean good. John Stewart is a boring ass character. Alan Scott would be better, not only is he a new character, but he also revamps the entire concept of Green Lantern. Also, just moving to Stewart and moving forward, isn't that the opposite point of a reboot? If you're moving forward, it implies it's in continuity with the Reynolds film.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Llama- great write up, I would've been much more satisfied with that film. I'd definitely want a scene where Parallax in his insectoid form reveals himself to the corps, and they attempt to contain it, while Hal is struggling to overcome the death of his father.

 

[TommyJones1945]

Nice one Llama, however don't you think Parallax would have worked like a part 2 villain.

Like they could do this thing at the end where the camera cuts to Jordan's lantern and follows the energy all the way to the central power battery where we see Parallax crouched inside the central battery, establishing a link with Jordan's ring. It slowly uncoils itself and faces the camera, afterwhich it opens it mouth and ROARS revealing the Sinestro corps insignia in its mouth.

If that doesn't hook people for the second movie I don't know what will.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I really would not like to see a solo John Stewart movie. He truly is a boring character when compared to Hal or Kyle. If people just want to see John for racial diversity, I suggest they change Hal's race instead of doing a movie about boring John Stewart. They would have to create a story from scratch for him. With Kyle and Hal, there are so many rich storylines they can take from and adapt into a movie.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Nice one Llama, however don't you think Parallax would have worked like a part 2 villain.

Like they could do this thing at the end where the camera cuts to Jordan's lantern and follows the energy all the way to the central power battery where we see Parallax crouched inside the central battery, establishing a link with Jordan's ring. It slowly uncoils itself and faces the camera, afterwhich it opens it mouth and ROARS revealing the Sinestro corps insignia in its mouth.

If that doesn't hook people for the second movie I don't know what will.

In my write up, the objective was to wrap up the threat of Parallax, as well as plant the seeds (though not too overtly) for future stories. The purpose of leaving Parallax embedded in Sinestro's ring was:

1) Give Sinestro a tool to learn and wield the power of fear (on Korugar, and later, Qward)
2) Plant the seeds for a potential Sinestro Corps War where Sinestro can "resurrect" Parallax through his own ring.

One of the bigger letdowns in Green Lantern was all the sequel baiting they did with Sinestro, but we know it will all amount to nothing.

 

[TommyJones1945]

In my write up, the objective was to wrap up the threat of Parallax, as well as plant the seeds (though not too overtly) for future stories. The purpose of leaving Parallax embedded in Sinestro's ring was:

1) Give Sinestro a tool to learn and wield the power of fear (on Korugar, and later, Qward)
2) Plant the seeds for a potential Sinestro Corps War where Sinestro can "resurrect" Parallax through his own ring.

One of the bigger letdowns in Green Lantern was all the sequel baiting they did with Sinestro, but we know it will all amount to nothing.

Oh sorry, that one works too. Mine was kinda like a potential ending for a GL movie where Sinestro was already a villain

I really would not like to see a solo John Stewart movie. He truly is a boring character when compared to Hal or Kyle. If people just want to see John for racial diversity, I suggest they change Hal's race instead of doing a movie about boring John Stewart. They would have to create a story from scratch for him. With Kyle and Hal, there are so many rich storylines they can take from and adapt into a movie.

A John movie is highly unlikely and sounds really boring. If they are interested in introducing a new Gl, I'd rather they use Kyle, seeing his constructs on screen will be glorious.

 

[The Watchman]

Reboot at this point would be best.

Most can agree if nothing else that GL was a missed opportunity.

Un-miss that opportunity. Make GL the "Star Wars" of the DC Universe. Then move towards Justice League. DC's bench is so much richer than WB realizes, but it has to be executed correctly, it will not live on its name alone, nothing will - not even Superman or Batman.

 

[brainchild81]

If people just want to see John for racial diversity, I suggest they change Hal's race instead of doing a movie about boring John Stewart.

Again, where are you getting this from? Why do you think John's name keeps getting brought up & Cyborg's isn't? Is it impossible for people to simply find John more interesting than Hal?

I think in all the annuls of Comic-dom, GL has the easiest 'Reboot" of them all; just go with John Stewart and move forward.

Ditto. He's been the most logical choice since the JL/JLU show and he still is, even moreso now that Hal's film was made of fail. Audience for that show is larger than Hal's comic fanbase. Hal's fanbase is most likely going to see a GL flick regardless of which GL they use. I'm simply not paying to see a Hal flick & know there are others who feel the same

The ideas in this in this thread for a Hal movie that Hal fans would be excited about would likely amount to just that, another movie that ONLY Hal's fans would be excited about. It'd likely fare the same at the box office as what we got before. Hal's movie was about a lame, silly looking character fighting a lame, silly looking villain. GA isn't gonna respond positively to that crap. Success was never an option. Paralax (much like Hal) is simply corny(name, look, etc) and isn't gonna work in live action, dustbunny or insect. There's really nothing good that Hal does character-wise that another character didn't do 1st & do waay better. GA doesn't care about Hal & mark my words....they never will

 

[Rorschach2012]

Again, where are you getting this from? Why do you think John's name keeps getting brought up & Cyborg's isn't? Is it impossible for people to simply find John more interesting than Hal?

Ditto. He's been the most logical choice since the JL/JLU show and he still is, even moreso now that Hal's film was made of fail. Audience for that show is larger than Hal's comic fanbase. Hal's fanbase is most likely going to see a GL flick regardless of which GL they use. I'm simply not paying to see a Hal flick & know there are others who feel the same

The ideas in this in this thread for a Hal movie that Hal fans would be excited about would likely amount to just that, another movie that ONLY Hal's fans would be excited about. It'd likely fare the same at the box office as what we got before. Hal's movie was about a lame, silly looking character fighting a lame, silly looking villain. GA isn't gonna respond positively to that crap. Success was never an option. Paralax (much like Hal) is simply corny(name, look, etc) and isn't gonna work in live action, dustbunny or insect. There's really nothing good that Hal does character-wise that another character didn't do 1st & do waay better. GA doesn't care about Hal & mark my words....they never will

it's not impossible for someone to find John Stewart more interesting, it's just really surprising. I can't think of anything I find interesting about his storyline or character tbh

Hal, Kyle, and even Alan have more interesting stories than Stewart.

Hal is the best choice for a solo film because the central conflict in all of Green Lantern's mythology is between Hal and Sinestro, they've never shown that on film. A movie about John Stewart up against Sinestro is like having a movie about Dick Grayson as Batman fighting up against The Joker, it just doesn't have the same effect.

Now, if writers ever focused on John as much as they do Hal, then obviously he'd have some good stories, but as of now, his character hasn't been given much attention and doesn't have nearly the same amount of great stories that the other Earth Green Lanterns do.

John Stewart is fine for the Justice League.

Not for solo movies.

I'm gonna guess that you don't follow the Green Lantern comics and are mostly familiar with Green Lantern from the JL animated series

Before somebody goes on about Mosaic... I'm aware of the storyline... but one mediocre storyline isn't enough to convince me that John should be used over Kyle or Hal

 

[brainchild81]

You gonna answer the questions I asked?

 

[TommyJones1945]

Again, where are you getting this from? Why do you think John's name keeps getting brought up & Cyborg's isn't? Is it impossible for people to simply find John more interesting than Hal?

Ditto. He's been the most logical choice since the JL/JLU show and he still is, even moreso now that Hal's film was made of fail. Audience for that show is larger than Hal's comic fanbase. Hal's fanbase is most likely going to see a GL flick regardless of which GL they use. I'm simply not paying to see a Hal flick & know there are others who feel the same

First off, John isn't more interesting than Hal. Second if anyone thinks so, they are either dumb or only about John through JL/JLU, and don't know much else about GL, and even then all what Hal ever did trumps what John has done in JLU.

The ideas in this in this thread for a Hal movie that Hal fans would be excited about would likely amount to just that, another movie that ONLY Hal's fans would be excited about. It'd likely fare the same at the box office as what we got before. Hal's movie was about a lame, silly looking character fighting a lame, silly looking villain. GA isn't gonna respond positively to that crap. Success was never an option. Paralax (much like Hal) is simply corny(name, look, etc) and isn't gonna work in live action, dustbunny or insect. There's really nothing good that Hal does character-wise that another character didn't do 1st & do waay better. GA doesn't care about Hal & mark my words....they never will

A Hal movie is a GL movie, and there's no reason why GL fans won't be happy about that. In fact I'll stop myself here. Your post is filled with so much hate and nonsense I find it impossible to respond to.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Again, where are you getting this from? I'm getting it from the fact that I've seen people discuss the benefits of having John on the team, and the two biggest ones usually are the fact that Hal Jordan's movie failed, and that he adds racial diversity.
Why do you think John's name keeps getting brought up & Cyborg's isn't?
Because most fans would have preferred Cyborg to stay on the Teen Titans.

Is it impossible for people to simply find John more interesting than Hal?
Not impossible. It's just hard to believe unless you've only seen the Justice League animted series. I think most people that prefer John Stewart to Hal are mostly familiar with the Justice League show and haven't read the comics.

Audience for that show is larger than Hal's comic fanbase.
I don't know about that. The show started over ten years ago, ended 7 seven years ago. Since then, DC has pretty much exclusively focused on Hal Jordan, because he's who they want people to think of when they think of GL. He's the star of his own successful comic series, he had his own animated series, an unsuccessful film (it wasn't a success, but it still increased people's awareness of the character, plus superhero movies live on through DVD sales from kids) and an animated movie was made about him. I'd say Hal has a pretty big fanbase, but you're right, the audience of that show was huge.

Hal's fanbase is most likely going to see a GL flick regardless of which GL they use. I'm simply not paying to see a Hal flick & know there are others who feel the same
It's safe to say that Hal is the most popular Green Lantern, I think you're one of the few GL fans that feel that way. But you're right, I would see a John Stewart Green Lantern movie, and if it was a good movie, I'd enjoy it.

The ideas in this in this thread for a Hal movie that Hal fans would be excited about would likely amount to just that, another movie that ONLY Hal's fans would be excited about. It'd likely fare the same at the box office as what we got before. Hal's movie was about a lame, silly looking character fighting a lame, silly looking villain. GA isn't gonna respond positively to that crap. Success was never an option. Paralax (much like Hal) is simply corny(name, look, etc) and isn't gonna work in live action, dustbunny or insect. There's really nothing good that Hal does character-wise that another character didn't do 1st & do waay better. GA doesn't care about Hal & mark my words....they never will

This statement doesn't at all prove that John would be better. I think you have an extreme bias against Hal Jordan, I don't know why. When I first started watching Justice League (all the way back in 2001) I wasn't familiar with Hal Jordan. I knew of Kyle Rayner from Superman the Animated Series, but I wasn't very familiar with Hal. Because of that show, John Stewart quickly became my favorite Green Lantern. But that was before I got into Geoff Johns' Green Lantern run. If the Green Lantern movie would've been more like Geoff Johns' run, the movie would've been a lot better. The Green Lantern movie sucked, for sure, but that was the producers fault, it wasn't because Hal was star.

The fact that you're saying " There's really nothing good that Hal does character-wise that another character didn't do 1st & do waay better. GA doesn't care about Hal & mark my words....they never will" makes me think you aren't familiar with Hal, because my narrow minded fanboy self can't understand how someone couldn't like Hal after reading enough of his stories.

The GA could care about Hal, the Geoff Johns' stories are a really good framework for a live action Hal.

Yes

 

[Rorschach2012]

First off, John isn't more interesting than Hal. Second if anyone thinks so, they are either dumb or only about John through JL/JLU, and don't know much else about GL, and even then all what Hal ever did trumps what John has done in JLU.



A Hal movie is a GL movie, and there's no reason why GL fans won't be happy about that. In fact I'll stop myself here. Your post is filled with so much hate and nonsense I find it impossible to respond to.

Heh we both basically said the same thing , I didn't notice your post until after I had already commented.

John was great on JL, and he would work for a JL movie too, but it wouldn't make sense for WB to release a John Stewart solo movie after they've been so focused on Hal. Hal has the superior stories, and his personality is more fun than John's. I don't care for John's personality really, he's noble sure, but even the way he was written on JL, he was pretty boring, nothing really unique about him. He was just a standard military guy that had a Green Lantern ring.

The Hal + Barry dynamic is something I really want to see in a Justice League movie.

Hal

Barry

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

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[Lantern Venom]

I'm a massive fan, I had read Geoff John's whole run in anticipation of the movie. It's hard to think of something more disappointing than that piece of absolute garbage.

So, what did you want out it? I can think of valid criticisms like a badly modified main villain, not enough time on Oa, too much screen time for Carol/Hector, and too much camp in places. However, we still got the selection process with Abin, the GOTU, the CPB, the Corps, and Hal's rivalry with Sinestro. In the end, the spirit of the comics was there.

Taking all that into account, how could GL be worse than movies like Catwoman or Batman & Robin, which barely resemble their comic counterparts? Do you dislike Reynolds that much?

 

[Rorschach2012]

So, what did you want out it? I can think of valid criticisms like a badly modified main villain, not enough time on Oa, too much screen time for Carol/Hector, and too much camp in places. However, we still got the selection process with Abin, the GOTU, the CPB, the Corps, and Hal's rivalry with Sinestro. In the end, the spirit of the comics was there.

Taking all that into account, how could GL be worse than movies like Catwoman or Batman & Robin, which barely resemble their comic counterparts? Do you dislike Reynolds that much?

I wanted a good movie. It was so badly written, terribly paced, horrible dialogue, bad acting from Peter Sarsgaard, Carol, Tim Robbin's, Carol's dad, and all of Hal's family. The scenes with Hal's family were hilarious, scenes with Hector were hilarious. Any scene between Carol and Hal failed, they tried to be romantic or funny and just failed.Any attempt at humor was campy and badly done. Special effects were bad. Green Lantern's suit sucked, Parallax looked dumb...

It had some of the basic ideas of Green Lantern sure, but it was still badly written garbage.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I wanted a good movie. It was so badly written, terribly paced, horrible dialogue, bad acting from Peter Sarsgaard, Carol, Tim Robbin's, Carol's dad, and all of Hal's family. The scenes with Hal's family were hilarious, scenes with Hector were hilarious. Any scene between Carol and Hal failed, they tried to be romantic or funny and just failed.Any attempt at humor was campy and badly done. Special effects were bad. Green Lantern's suit sucked, Parallax looked dumb...

It had some of the basic ideas of Green Lantern sure, but it was still badly written garbage.

I guess we'll have to disagree there. I thought the special effects were marvelous, Hal was Hal from the comics, and the Corps was presented. That was enough to make it good, even though it should have been great.

I can see your objection to Parallax (it was dumb to use that villain apart from Hal/Emerald Twilight) and the pacing. I still feel like everthing between Hal's training and eventual fight with Parallax was pandering to the GA sheeple in the effort to make another Iron Man franchise. The truth is, Iron Man and Green Lantern inhabit polar opposite universes, so that was a terrible plan.

 

[brainchild81]

First off, John isn't more interesting than Hal. Second if anyone thinks so, they are either dumb or only about John through JL/JLU, and don't know much else about GL, and even then all what Hal ever did trumps what John has done in JLU.

The horrible grammar on top of the foolishness is a bad combination. Calling people dumb because their opinion on fictional characters isn't the same as yours shows a severe lack of maturity. Seriously. Grow up, kid

A Hal movie is a GL movie, and there's no reason why GL fans won't be happy about that. In fact I'll stop myself here. Your post is filled with so much hate and nonsense I find it impossible to respond to.

But you did respond....poorly. Next time it'd probably be better if you really didn't respond.

Again, where are you getting this from? I'm getting it from the fact that I've seen people discuss the benefits of having John on the team, and the two biggest ones usually are the fact that Hal Jordan's movie failed, and that he adds racial diversity.

I think we'd see more calls for Cyborg, Black Lightning, Mr Terrific or any other black character if it was just about diversity.

Why do you think John's name keeps getting brought up & Cyborg's isn't?
Because most fans would have preferred Cyborg to stay on the Teen Titans.

I think it's because people like John better. If you can only have one black guy on the team, many would rather have John.

Is it impossible for people to simply find John more interesting than Hal?
Not impossible. It's just hard to believe unless you've only seen the Justice League animted series. I think most people that prefer John Stewart to Hal are mostly familiar with the Justice League show and haven't read the comics.

You'll probably find that many people just aren't interested in the comics. Comics aren't mainstream

Audience for that show is larger than Hal's comic fanbase.
I don't know about that. The show started over ten years ago, ended 7 seven years ago. Since then, DC has pretty much exclusively focused on Hal Jordan, because he's who they want people to think of when they think of GL.

That show still comes on though & it's popular on Netflix. It was so great of a show that the Young Justice show creators felt the need to pay homage to it. They changed the comic book John to be more like the one from the show. That's HUGE.

He's the star of his own successful comic series, he had his own animated series, an unsuccessful film (it wasn't a success, but it still increased people's awareness of the character, plus superhero movies live on through DVD sales from kids) and an animated movie was made about him. I'd say Hal has a pretty big fanbase, but you're right, the audience of that show was huge.

His series got scrapped after only one season tho. Most people don't read or care about the comics. JL/LJU's audience is EASILY bigger than Hal's comic fanbase. Not even a contest. People around the world thought of GL as a black guy because of that show

It's safe to say that Hal is the most popular Green Lantern, I think you're one of the few GL fans that feel that way. But you're right, I would see a John Stewart Green Lantern movie, and if it was a good movie, I'd enjoy it.

Which would probably make it safer for them to just make a John movie so they can get everybody's money this time There was a poll some other poster posted a link to about which GL should be in live action next. Even after more than a decade of over-promoting Hal & under-promoting John, John still won &by a HUGE margin. WB/DC's course of action isn't working too well

The ideas in this in this thread for a Hal movie that Hal fans would be excited about would likely amount to just that, another movie that ONLY Hal's fans would be excited about. It'd likely fare the same at the box office as what we got before. Hal's movie was about a lame, silly looking character fighting a lame, silly looking villain. GA isn't gonna respond positively to that crap. Success was never an option. Paralax (much like Hal) is simply corny(name, look, etc) and isn't gonna work in live action, dustbunny or insect. There's really nothing good that Hal does character-wise that another character didn't do 1st & do waay better. GA doesn't care about Hal & mark my words....they never will

This statement doesn't at all prove that John would be better. I think you have an extreme bias against Hal Jordan, I don't know why. When I first started watching Justice League (all the way back in 2001) I wasn't familiar with Hal Jordan. I knew of Kyle Rayner from Superman the Animated Series, but I wasn't very familiar with Hal. Because of that show, John Stewart quickly became my favorite Green Lantern. But that was before I got into Geoff Johns' Green Lantern run. If the Green Lantern movie would've been more like Geoff Johns' run, the movie would've been a lot better. The Green Lantern movie sucked, for sure, but that was the producers fault, it wasn't because Hal was star.

I'd been exposed to Hal in my childhood, but had apathy for him & the whole concept of GL until I saw John Stewart on Justice League. From that point on, John was GL to many people. When I 1st heard that Common was gonna be GL in live action I was stoked. I was beyond pissed when I found out they were gonna use Hal because I knew it would be bad & flop.

The fact that you're saying " There's really nothing good that Hal does character-wise that another character didn't do 1st & do waay better. GA doesn't care about Hal & mark my words....they never will" makes me think you aren't familiar with Hal, because my narrow minded fanboy self can't understand how someone couldn't like Hal after reading enough of his stories.

I could go back to just being apathetic towards him if I didn't feel like he was being forced on us all the time. I've read books w/Hal in them. Nothing so far has made me interested in reading more about him. He's not for everybody, otherwise he'd be iconic like Batman. Speaking of which, people shouldn't compare Hal to Bruce....ever. Hal v. Sinestro means everything to Hal's fans but NOTHING to the GA. It wouldn't really take much effort to make John v. Sinestro mean more to them

The GA could care about Hal, the Geoff Johns' stories are a really good framework for a live action Hal.

Not gonna happen. Time normally proves me right about these things. We'll see. What works w/comic fans can be VERY different from what works w/the GA.