The Amazing Spider-Man Rhys Ifans Cast as The Lizard

It's actually really important to the character. It makes the Lizard have a visual look with his tattered coat moving like a cape almost when he fights and slithers around. It makes him look somewhat human and not just a 1950s B-sci-fi movie monster. It'd be like doing Venom without the fangs and tongue or Green Goblin without the pumpkin bombs....they're not necessary, but they're part of the trademark of the classic character. You take too much away, the villain becomes generic.
 
He's a good choice for a villain, he has charisma and menace and is always entertaining. Watch him in this Oasis video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jySfU10IQu4

Lol I was just looking through the first couple of pages to see who people thought he'd play...and had some good laughs, Jackal? Vulture? haha LOL

Then i came across this video. This was like my favourite music video at the time, and I as thinking he looks very very familiar, but couldn't put my finger on it. Great video btw. Plus he was Adrian was my favourite character in Little Nicky which i loved as a kid.(my favourite part was when sits down on the thrown. The way he does it...:hrt:) God he looks young in that movie. I can't believe I didn't know who he was :doh: Of course now I'm starting to recognise him everywhere, namely Harry Potter and Notting Hill, I want to see that movie with Daniel Craig from the last interview with Rys actually, apparently they kiss.
 
They can't be that important if they were left out in the MTV version of the character where he was substantially larger than the 60s version of the character that many people are hoping to see.

You've got this guy that goes through this agonizing transformation into this hulking 7 foot creature, but still manages to somehow retain his clothes?... lolwut.

I'd love to see his tattered labcoat, but as I said... if it's not there, it won't matter.
 
Phil Urich did what to Hobby?!?! Okay, so now they've ruined Peter, MJ, Harry, Doc Connors/Lizard, Urich, and Kingsley.

Man, DeFalco's use of both Kingsley and Urich in The Amazing Spider-Girl was great. How can you suck so bad? I'm glad I quit reading those comics.

Yeah Uncle Phil has gone nuts and turn to the darkside.

Pretty much Kingsley decides to resume his career as the Hobgoblin and return to NY to for work the Kingpin.He goes to one of Norman's old goblin lairs to get some new goblin gear and finds Phil there.Phils got a crush on Daily Bugle reporter Norah Winters and is hoping to find some goblin stuff to impress her.Kingsley is about to kill Phil until Phil uses his sonic goblin laugh to stun Kingsley before cutting his head off with the new goblin plasma sword.He then steals Osborn's new Green Goblin stuff and assumes the Hobgoblin identity.

The Phil Urich/Hobgoblin is being written to be the dark evil Peter Parker.Phil records his crimes as the Hobgoblin and sells the video to the Bugle.His love triangle with Norah Winters and Randy Robertson is akin to the Peter,Betty Brant and Ned Leeds love triangle from the Lee/Ditko stories.Also When ever Phil shows up ,one panel always has Phil's face split with the half Hobgoblin face like the classic split face of Peter/Spider-Man.Plus factor in Ben Urich being an "Uncle Ben".

In my opinion I think Phil's Hobgoblin comes across too much like a mixture of the Joker and the 90s Clone Saga Jackal.
 
the footage made him look more like the croc then the lizard
 
I would much rather he keep the coat on, just to make it more of a reminder of the person he was. It's only when he fully transforms into the Lizard should he lose the coat. I think the best way to approach Lizard in a grounded Spiderman movie is to look at Cronenberg's Fly as a rough template. The transformation should be slow and creepy, with him basically spiraling into a primal state that there's no cure for.
 
They can't be that important if they were left out in the MTV version of the character where he was substantially larger than the 60s version of the character that many people are hoping to see.

You've got this guy that goes through this agonizing transformation into this hulking 7 foot creature, but still manages to somehow retain his clothes?... lolwut.

I'd love to see his tattered labcoat, but as I said... if it's not there, it won't matter.

The MTV series was crap and even the few who like (or remember) it would say they hated its depiction of lizard--a fin wearing hulk monster with no clothes that was controlled by a purely evil and family-less Dr. Connors who dies at the end--was terrible.

He had a coat in the much more popular and successful '90s TAS and SSM. He also has had a coat and clothes in all his video game appearances and most importantly, in the comics.

And you're complaining about realism in a movie about a kid who can climb walls and move like a spider. lolwut.
 
Yeah Uncle Phil has gone nuts and turn to the darkside.

Pretty much Kingsley decides to resume his career as the Hobgoblin and return to NY to for work the Kingpin.He goes to one of Norman's old goblin lairs to get some new goblin gear and finds Phil there.Phils got a crush on Daily Bugle reporter Norah Winters and is hoping to find some goblin stuff to impress her.Kingsley is about to kill Phil until Phil uses his sonic goblin laugh to stun Kingsley before cutting his head off with the new goblin plasma sword.He then steals Osborn's new Green Goblin stuff and assumes the Hobgoblin identity.

The Phil Urich/Hobgoblin is being written to be the dark evil Peter Parker.Phil records his crimes as the Hobgoblin and sells the video to the Bugle.His love triangle with Norah Winters and Randy Robertson is akin to the Peter,Betty Brant and Ned Leeds love triangle from the Lee/Ditko stories.Also When ever Phil shows up ,one panel always has Phil's face split with the half Hobgoblin face like the classic split face of Peter/Spider-Man.Plus factor in Ben Urich being an "Uncle Ben".

In my opinion I think Phil's Hobgoblin comes across too much like a mixture of the Joker and the 90s Clone Saga Jackal.

Sounds horrible. Glad I'm not reading those issues.
 
The MTV series was crap and even the few who like (or remember) it would say they hated its depiction of lizard--a fin wearing hulk monster with no clothes that was controlled by a purely evil and family-less Dr. Connors who dies at the end--was terrible.

He had a coat in the much more popular and successful '90s TAS and SSM. He also has had a coat and clothes in all his video game appearances and most importantly, in the comics.

And you're complaining about realism in a movie about a kid who can climb walls and move like a spider. lolwut
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You can only push it so far. -_-

Is his labcoat made of some super stretchy material that doesn't tear off when he transforms?

Jesus Christ. -_-

I didn't say I was against him having a labcoat, I said it's unlikely given how big this version of The Lizard is. A few tatters of his labcoat would be cool. But expecting this:
lizard.gif

Is stupid.
 
You can only push it so far. -_-

Is his labcoat made of some super stretchy material that doesn't tear off when he transforms?

Jesus Christ. -_-

If Hulk can keep his jeans, then Lizard can keep his labcoat.
 
If Hulk can keep his jeans, then Lizard can keep his labcoat.

Tattered remains.

A 7 foot monster running around in clothes which haven't torn at all that he had on when he was in his human form would look a little... odd.

I'm betting on no clothes or tattered remains.

No clothes is more likely, the picture we got of Connors naked in the sewer kinda confirms it. That's not to say we won't get a more... "classic" look for The Lizard later on in the movie though.
 
Maybe it's just how I pictured or imagine it in my head when I read the descriptions, but didn't people say there was a more humanoid version of the Lizard before the final, massive one appeared? Look for the Lizard to have some clothes in his early forms throughout the movie.

I think what they're going for, which makes sense, is Dr. Connors/The Lizard to lose all touch with humanity as the film progresses.

Ie:

He starts out as a doctor trying to develop something that is revolutionary, the experiment goes wrong but he still maintains a piece of himself, as the film and story continues, he tries relentlessly to fix his formula but only makes it worse until he eventually becomes this beast of a creature and loses all touch with what he used to be which would explain Peter's final plea in one of the footage reels shown:

"DR. CONNORS! THIS ISN'T YOU! STOP IT! STOP IT NOW!"
 
Uh oh -- looks like io9 wasn't impressed with the Lizard clip at Comic Con.

http://io9.com/5824512/the-biggest-winners-and-losers-of-comic+con-2011

The Biggest Winners and Losers of Comic-Con 2011

The buzz losers of SDCC 2011:

The Lizard (Amazing Spider-Man)
Andrew Garfield may have won over the crowd — but his new arch-nemesis, the villain of the Spider-Man reboot, did not. Let's hope the CG for the Lizard was an early version, because it didn't look that hot — and the character's design was too far from his classic comics version. He didn't have a lizard snout, or the trademark torn labcoat for that matter. He was giant, almost kaiju-sized, rather than the size of a big person. A comment we heard from several attendees: The Lizard looked like Batman's Killer Croc, as drawn by Jim Lee — not like the mutated Dr. Curt Connors. People were not impressed.

Again with the claim of no snout. Seriously? Sure looked like a big snout to me in those profile still frames. :huh:
 
He definitely has a snout, a massive one (took a look at Jim Lee's Killer Croc) who has a small thin snout. :confused:
Although his Croc's body is kind of like this Lizard's (huge) guessing from the size of this thing's head.
 
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You can only push it so far. -_-

Is his labcoat made of some super stretchy material that doesn't tear off when he transforms?

Jesus Christ. -_-

I didn't say I was against him having a labcoat, I said it's unlikely given how big this version of The Lizard is. A few tatters of his labcoat would be cool. But expecting this:
lizard.gif

Is stupid.

I don't see why this would be impossible:

spiderman-doctor-connors-the-lizard.jpg


or this:

spiderman-lizard.jpg


I just don't think people who are watching a movie with a guy changing into a giant lizard would complain "Oh him still having ripped clothes is just silly." If that's where your suspension of disbelief is broken....well, I've got nothing.
 
I don't understand why the lab coat is a big deal whether it's there or not.

When the movie releases and people complain...that'll be some serious nitpicking.
 
Curt Conners must wear a really big lab coat in that second pic, it stretched along with his transformation. Look at the size of his arms compared to Spidey's. The truth is his clothes would rip right off him. This Lizard is about 3 or 4 times as big as Connor's (actor's) body in this flick. Perhaps some torn pieces of clothes would work, unless they're okay with showing his Lizard stuff to kids.
 
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I don't understand why the lab coat is a big deal whether it's there or not.

When the movie releases and people complain...that'll be some serious nitpicking.

We are not saying he's gonna suck without it or anything. Only that he looks visually more interesting with some sort of torn remains of his clothes. Not to mention that the torn coat is pretty much a trademark and his most identifiable feature. Put several monster Lizards from different comics next to each other, and if you seen one in a lab coat you know it's Connors from the Spider-man comics.
 
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