Robin Hood Reboot: Avengers Style

[samsnee]

I guess the question of "Can Jamie Foxx be in a movie dumber than Amazing Spider-man 2" has been answered.

 

[MadVillainy]

DAMMIT JAMIE WHEN IS THE SCORSESE DIRECTED MIKE TYSON BIOPIC COMING OUT?!

....seriously though

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I guess the question of "Can Jamie Foxx be in a movie dumber than Amazing Spider-man 2" has been answered.

Question was answered with the Annie remake

 

[godisawesome]

Were there even any black people during the Crusades?

You mean in England? Tough to say; at least a few probably visited thanks to trade and human trafficking. Almost none would be the traditional peasant stock that Little John's generally portrayed as. There is a recent modern tradition of giving the Merry Men an Arabic, and sometimes black, member; Nasir, Azeem, Djaq, and others have all been interesting attempts to expand the makeup of the Merry Men.

Foxx being Little John does worry me; the actor has serious chops and charisma, but there's really only two ways to play a black Little John. Either he's going to be a radically different take on the character, in which case he honestly might end up either the worst piece of the film or the most interesting spin-off character, or the England being used is following the King Arthur tradition of fudging historical perspective to the breaking point.

Of course, even the usual film versions trying to be historically accurate often fall laughably short; if you want John and Richard as the Monarchs during the time, then they should be speaking in Norman French, with John being a capable tactician if a poor strategist, not some insanely incompetent untried nobleman or personification of the Evil Brit stereotype, and Richard giving less of a rat's @$$ than just about anyone about England outside of the economical benefits of having a crown.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Well, the gay part is easy to believe. I mean the male/female ratio in Sherwood Forest was almost as bad as the Smurfs.

King Richard I was very likely gay.

 

[Pink Ranger]

King Richard I was very likely gay.

Well, duh. You should hear the crap I get when I walk to McDonald's with my sash and gold crown.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

You mean in England? Tough to say; at least a few probably visited thanks to trade and human trafficking. Almost none would be the traditional peasant stock that Little John's generally portrayed as. There is a recent modern tradition of giving the Merry Men an Arabic, and sometimes black, member; Nasir, Azeem, Djaq, and others have all been interesting attempts to expand the makeup of the Merry Men.

Foxx being Little John does worry me; the actor has serious chops and charisma, but there's really only two ways to play a black Little John. Either he's going to be a radically different take on the character, in which case he honestly might end up either the worst piece of the film or the most interesting spin-off character, or the England being used is following the King Arthur tradition of fudging historical perspective to the breaking point.

Of course, even the usual film versions trying to be historically accurate often fall laughably short; if you want John and Richard as the Monarchs during the time, then they should be speaking in Norman French, with John being a capable tactician if a poor strategist, not some insanely incompetent untried nobleman or personification of the Evil Brit stereotype, and Richard giving less of a rat's @$$ than just about anyone about England outside of the economical benefits of having a crown.

I'd much rather see a film about John (not the Shakespeare play) than yet another Robin Hood rehash. He's an interesting figure in English history.

 

[Iron_Stark]

This sounds stupider than the Ghostbusters remake.

And race bending Little John? Gtfo.

 

[jmc]

My understanding of the folklore is Little John is meant to be an ironic nickname because he's a big guy. Foxx is an average size dude.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

This sounds stupider than the Ghostbusters remake.

And race bending Little John? Gtfo.

While I don't like the idea of another remake of a popular 80s property since those never seem to work out, I can at least understand why a studio would give it a go. There is an audience out there if Ghostbusters is done well. I just have no faith that it will be.

I have absolutely no idea who this Robin Hood idea is supposed to appeal to.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I don't mind a black Little John, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje or Nonso Anozie could be good, but casting Jaime Foxx in that role is... weird.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Maybe he's portraying the hip hop artist Lil John. Because Robin Hood's Little John is an almost 7 foot tall white guy.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

It's referring to his lil john.

 

[Quasimod0]

Little John has got to be a big dude, that's kind of his whole thing.

 

[mclay18]

I don't mind a black Little John, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje or Nonso Anozie could be good, but casting Jaime Foxx in that role is... weird.

Foxx being cast just killed my interest in this film. I'm hoping he'll drop out and someone like Anozie will replace him.

I'm all for against-the-grain casting in Hollywood, but Foxx as Little John just doesn't feel right. You need someone like Anozie or David Harewood, who was an awesome Friar Tuck in the 2006 BBC Robin Hood series.

 

[Spider-Who?]

You know as a kid, I really liked Prince of Thieves.

Prince of Theives really isn't that bad of a film; Costner gets way too much hate for his lack of an accent. It's quite enjoyable and it got us Men in Tights

 

[Dr. Evil]

Prince of Theives really isn't that bad of a film; Costner gets way too much hate for his lack of an accent. It's quite enjoyable and it got us Men in Tights

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[TheVileOne]

Achoo!

Gesundheit!

 

[Orba]

Well, the gay part is easy to believe. I mean the male/female ratio in Sherwood Forest was almost as bad as the Smurfs.

Hehe that reminded me of an old British comedy film "Up the Chastity Belt" starring Frankie Howerd (sequel to "Up Pompeii").

It has an interesting take on Robin Hood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48jf6hHYRAs

 

[sueb1863]

Then there's "When Things were Rotten", Mel Brooks' 1975 Robin Hood parody TV series. It starred Dick Gautier as Rpbin, Dick Van Patten as Friar Tuck and Bernie Kopel as Alan a Dale. It also costarred Ron 'Alias' Rifkin as Prince John, though he wasn't in every episode. It was mostly pretty silly and got canceled after about thirteen episodes, but I always thought Henry Polic II made a great Sheriff of Nottingham.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO2Viv8dQJ4

 

[chamber-music]

Were there even any black people during the Crusades?

If you mean Europe in general then yes.

Holy Roman Emperor King Frederick Barbaross 1155–1190 (King of Germany and Italy) recruited black residents of Sicily to be his musicians and elite bodyguard.

Historical evidence Black people/Africans in Britain is kind of sketchy pre-Tudor dynasty. Not really enough evidence. There was probably a small number of of black people here and there that existed that may of been traders, merchants, sailors, slaves and so on.

There is some evidence of people of north and sub-Saharan African ancestry being in Britain since at least the Roman times. Some of these people probably came over with the Romans. A few archaeological cases have unearthed sub-Saharan African womans remains in places like Fairford, Gloucestershire dating from somewhere around 896 to 1025. There has also been a discovery of a tenth-century Anglo-Saxon burial at North Elmham in Norfolk which housed the grave of a black girl.

 

[Orba]

There was also the Moors in Spain and Portugal.

 

[chamber-music]

The Portuguese were exploring West Africa as early as 1415.

The Zagwe dynasty that ruled what is modern day Ethiopia had diplomatic contact with European kingdoms. A letter from King Henry IV of England to the Emperor of Abyssinia survives from the early 1400s.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Well, the gay part is easy to believe. I mean the male/female ratio in Sherwood Forest was almost as bad as the Smurfs.

Teaser trailer:

Robin Hood: "Men, it's time we...(looks at his merrie men)...wow, we're all straight, white males. This isn't good. What if someone far into the future reads "the legend of Robin Hood" and thinks we're all a bunch of racists?"

Little John: "I'm a bit racist, to be honest."

Alan-a-Dale (singing): "Robin Hood and his racist men..."

Robin Hood: "Quiet, I'm thinking...we need to recruit more black people, fast!"

Will Scarlet: "But aren't we supposed to fight Prince John? How the hell do we find black people in the middle of the forest?"

Alan-a-Dale (singing): "...men of affirmative action, fighting for female rights..."

Robin Hood: "More gays then. Are there any gays here? It's okay, you can come out now...you look gay. Are you gay? Answer me!!!"

Old man: "N-not exactly gay, sir. I accidentally touched another man's butt once...does that count?"

Fat guy: "Oh yeah? I hit one of Prince John's men in the balls! I'm the gayest."

Alan-a-Dale: "Robin Hood and his gay, black men in tights..."

Robin Hood: "..."

Alan-a-Dale: "t:"

(Robin Hood grabs Alan's lute and smashes it against a tree)

Alan-a-Dale: ""

Friar Tuck (food in mouth): "Oh crap...someone's having a period again!"

"Robin Hood Foxx it up...coming 2017"

 

[Dr. Evil]

There was also the Moors in Spain and Portugal.

Were the Moors black though? I always thought their complexion was like the modern day Middle Eastern/North African Arab.