The Dark Knight Rises Roven: Joker Could Return

[Dog Logan]

Honestly, I don't think recasting is as bad an idea as some people think, and as for Gordon Joseph Levitt, yes, he looks nearly exactly like Heath, but I highly doubt he has the talent. A role like this would be more up Johnny Depp's alley, and that's who I want to see as the Joker in B3.

 

[KalMart]

Well......not to stir up any real s**t here or anything. But if Nolan was to consider the Joker as a small role in the third film, and a recasting decision would be made, I think that ...........wait for it!

Corey Haim should be considered. Have you seen how F'd up this guy is and looks these days. Hell with all the drug use in the recent years, he would not have to go far to don the Joker make up and make sure he gets his lines correct.

If you doubt me...take a look at this pic, http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/14/article-1026455-019B696400000578-764_233x303.jpg

AND watch some of the episodes of the Two Corey's. And just see how out of reality Haim is.....I think he could pull it off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-2V6GBdElY

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[Dog Logan]

Lol, how about Corey Feldman as the Joker?

 

[colonel sanders]

I don't think when people say they do not want to see a re-cast Joker in the next film they mean retire the joker on film altogether. They mean they don't want Nolan's interpretation of the Joker on film anymore. The Joker will appear onscreen again at some point in the future whether its a new batman series, a justice league film, or the proposed Super Max film.

But it's perfectly understandable why someone wouldn't want to see Nolan's interpretation in the next film. Not only did Heath Ledger give a performance that will be remembered for years to come, but he one pretty much every acting award he was nominated for, which has never happened for a superhero movie. Seeing anyone else playing this interpretation of the character would just feel out of place.

I mean how do you do it? Do you cast someone that looks like Ledger and try to imitate what he did in The Dark Knight? No. Do you cast someone who will just give his own interpretation of the character and make it seem like this is not the same Joker from the Dark Knight? No. Do you do something that is a cross between the two? Maybe, if you can somehow find someone that can do that.

Who would have the balls to play him and what kind of actor should they go for? A big name like Johnny Depp or an unknown. That's a tough decision.

Now if Nolan did come up with an amazing story that requires the Joker to return and he had to be re-cast then let it happen. I think that Nolan would not include the character unless he has some idea on how to make it work.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I'd have the actor create there own portrayal. Not try to imitate Heath's. Obviously try and keep the visual similar though.

If whoever got the gig really delved into the character, BECAME the Joker then I don't think anyone would be moaning about it not being the same guy playing him. As long as they create a truly frightening and interesting portrayal, that's all that really matters.

And Joker isn't exactly one note. It's been suggested in a few comics that each time Joker gets locked away and escapes, he is slightly different and more crazy. I don't see why that can't be applied to the movies either.

 

[luke1234]

I'd have the actor create there own portrayal. Not try to imitate Heath's. Obviously try and keep the visual similar though.

If whoever got the gig really delved into the character, BECAME the Joker then I don't think anyone would be moaning about it not being the same guy playing him. As long as they create a truly frightening and interesting portrayal, that's all that really matters.

And Joker isn't exactly one note. It's been suggested in a few comics that each time Joker gets locked away and escapes, he is slightly different and more crazy. I don't see why that can't be applied to the movies either.

thats a very good point. I would really like to see that.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yean it would be pretty unique. A re-occuring villain in a comic book movie, but who is slightly different from the last time we saw him. It could be explained that being locked away from his "play thing" has sent him even further over the edge or something like that.

I'm just getting sick of new villains for each movie in these comic book movies. Why not a re-occuring menace? Joker would be perfect for that, make him like a horror movie villain who keeps randomly popping up. He doesn't even need to be the main antagonist, just have him pop up to cause havoc for Batman, the police AND the new main antagonist. I'd like to see how Nolan would have Joker interact with other villains like Black Mask or Riddler.

 

[luke1234]

Yean it would be pretty unique. A re-occuring villain in a comic book movie, but who is slightly different from the last time we saw him. It could be explained that being locked away from his "play thing" has sent him even further over the edge or something like that.

I'm just getting sick of new villains for each movie in these comic book movies. Why not a re-occuring menace? Joker would be perfect for that, make him like a horror movie villain who keeps randomly popping up. He doesn't even need to be the main antagonist, just have him pop up to cause havoc for Batman, the police AND the new main antagonist.

I really think WB was intending to do that. They knew the publicity Heath was getting for the Joker even before his death. They were all most likely thinking "sequel" for the Joker. In the 3rd film I really envisioned him in Arkham playing mind games with Gordon, Batman, and fellow inmates and eventually breaking out.

 

[Grommers]

Yean it would be pretty unique. A re-occuring villain in a comic book movie, but who is slightly different from the last time we saw him. It could be explained that being locked away from his "play thing" has sent him even further over the edge or something like that.

I'm just getting sick of new villains for each movie in these comic book movies. Why not a re-occuring menace? Joker would be perfect for that, make him like a horror movie villain who keeps randomly popping up. He doesn't even need to be the main antagonist, just have him pop up to cause havoc for Batman, the police AND the new main antagonist. I'd like to see how Nolan would have Joker interact with other villains like Black Mask or Riddler.

Uhh, a re-occuring villain...doesnt pop up all the time...scarecrow?

Don't get me wrong, I think the joker would be a great re-occuring villain, it just sucks they cant pump these movies out as a weekly haha so we get a chance to see them all.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I really think WB was intending to do that. They knew the publicity Heath was getting for the Joker even before his death. They were all most likely thinking "sequel" for the Joker. In the 3rd film I really envisioned him in Arkham playing mind games with Gordon, Batman, and fellow inmates and eventually breaking out.

Yea that would be awesome. Have him locked up throughout most of the movie. Then in the grande finale either have him escape, or take over Arkham and beckon Batman for a final showdown. That would be a great way to finish the trilogy.

Uhh, a re-occuring villain...doesnt pop up all the time...scarecrow?

Don't get me wrong, I think the joker would be a great re-occuring villain, it just sucks they cant pump these movies out as a weekly haha so we get a chance to see them all.

Well Scarecrow doesn't really count, he did literally nothing in TDK. Apart from the "Buy beware..." line, which was awesome.

 

[Charlatan]

First off it would be hard to find an Actor who would actually want to take the mantle of trying to outdo Ledgers Joker

Second Heath Ledger's Joker was classic and no need to have someone else try

Daniel Day Lewis would deliver one that would rival Heath's (R.I.P)

 

[HughJackFan420]

Honestly, I don't think recasting is as bad an idea as some people think, and as for Gordon Joseph Levitt, yes, he looks nearly exactly like Heath, but I highly doubt he has the talent. A role like this would be more up Johnny Depp's alley, and that's who I want to see as the Joker in B3.

i agree with Gordon looking like Heath but as far as pulling off Joker for another sequel Johnny Depp definitely has the talent. but if at all possible they should use Gordon only for the fact that he's young and can last for a few sequels. if whipped into shape as far as nailing the Joker identically to what Ledger did than i'm all for it. but i mean everything from his laugh, to his voice and of course all the characteristics put into the Joker character for TDK. but if not talented enough or if he can't nail the part in the auditioning than yeah i'd go with Depp.

 

[Dog Logan]

Yean it would be pretty unique. A re-occuring villain in a comic book movie, but who is slightly different from the last time we saw him. It could be explained that being locked away from his "play thing" has sent him even further over the edge or something like that.

I'm just getting sick of new villains for each movie in these comic book movies. Why not a re-occuring menace? Joker would be perfect for that, make him like a horror movie villain who keeps randomly popping up. He doesn't even need to be the main antagonist, just have him pop up to cause havoc for Batman, the police AND the new main antagonist. I'd like to see how Nolan would have Joker interact with other villains like Black Mask or Riddler.

I agree, there's no point in introducing these villains and not using them more than once. In the Joker's case, he's Batman's biggest enemy, so why not reuse him? Some people will tell you it's better to introduce a new villain but why not bring in a past villain as well? Then everyone has the best of both worlds.

I truly do want to see Johnny Depp as the Joker, I know in my gut he'd give just as much of himself to the role, if not more, than Ledger, and we'd get yet another brilliant performance. I really hope some peeps from the WB take a look at these boards and see how much fans want Depp.

 

[Trooper]

christ havent u ppl seeen any of of JGL's films i mean, his body of work is much better than Heath Ledgers resume. just saying. If anything i really want him to be joker, his look adds credibility and the talent is in the bag. i would be gutted if it was anyone else. i hope he doesnt do ne more G.I joe crap afta this.

 

[Dog Logan]

JGL....better than Heath Ledger? Dude, whatever you've been smoking, pass that **** right now!

 

[SilverSnake1157]

Yes pass me what ur smoking toooo...but hey i think JGL could do the job im not gona say he cant do it...i use to be one of the people that was saying the joker should not be recast...but now that i think about it, i would think heath would want the joker to be recast if the story called for it...i only want 2 people to play the joker if recast and that JGL or Johnny Depp, and hey guys...do u trust Nolan??? if nolan recast any one to play the joker ima trust him

 

[Dog Logan]

I'm not saying he can't do it either but casting him solely on looks is a mistake.

 

[SilverSnake1157]

who said anything about looks??? you dont know if nolan is casting him only on looks (IF HE WAS TO BE CAST) not saying this just to you dog logan but to the people that think its just on looks...you guys should see his work

 

[Keyser Soze]

IF they were to recast The Joker.... Tom Hardy could be a good choice.

 

[TheFuture]

christ havent u ppl seeen any of of JGL's films i mean, his body of work is much better than Heath Ledgers resume. just saying. If anything i really want him to be joker, his look adds credibility and the talent is in the bag. i would be gutted if it was anyone else. i hope he doesnt do ne more G.I joe crap afta this.

I would say Jake Gyllenhaal has a better body of work than Ledger's, but even then Ledger is definitely the better actor. All a better body of work means is that you were more consistent in picking the right roles.

 

[Pennyworth]

Daniel Day Lewis would deliver one that would rival Heath's (R.I.P)

DDL would be great....I'd love to see where he took the Joker.

 

[Eggyman]

I still think that if Joker's in the next they should use existing footage.

Batman and Gordon on a rooftop, bad guys defeated, but the talk is about how they never really win but are always just doing what they can to keep things as cool as possible, like using a bucket in a siniking boat. Intercut this with feet coming down some townhouse steps, windows blow out, car door slams.

Thug in driver's seat: You just blew up the mayor!

Joker sat in back: I'm a man of my word.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I still think that if Joker's in the next they should use existing footage.

Batman and Gordon on a rooftop, bad guys defeated, but the talk is about how they never really win but are always just doing what they can to keep things as cool as possible, like using a bucket in a siniking boat. Intercut this with feet coming down some townhouse steps, windows blow out, car door slams.

Thug in driver's seat: You just blew up the mayor!

Joker sat in back: I'm a man of my word.

I think recycyling footage of Heath Ledger would be a lot more tasteless and disrespectful than recasting the role would be. Not to mention it's a little morbid.

 

[Eggyman]

I think recycyling footage of Heath Ledger would be a lot more tasteless and disrespectful than recasting the role would be. Not to mention it's a little morbid.

It's not recycling because it was never used, and there's lots of films that've made the most out of unused footage. As for it being disrespectful and morbid, that's your opinion not mine.

 

[BestGirl]

I still think that if Joker's in the next they should use existing footage.

Batman and Gordon on a rooftop, bad guys defeated, but the talk is about how they never really win but are always just doing what they can to keep things as cool as possible, like using a bucket in a siniking boat. Intercut this with feet coming down some townhouse steps, windows blow out, car door slams.

Thug in driver's seat: You just blew up the mayor!

Joker sat in back: I'm a man of my word.

But the Joker never appears in the movie before that? I assume he lives in and escapes from Arkham and there's no footage? What's the point?