Ryan Reynolds is the Green Lantern

[Nightwing 52]

Yeah IM2's going to be great. Just imagine how Cap's going to be aswell once the cast is assembled or how the action sequences will be, etc.

 

[Alex Logan]

Marvel has put out more good films than DC I think.

DC has Batman 89, Returns, Begins, TDK.

And the first Superman...what else? I'm confident Green Lantern will be great too.

Marvel has Iron Man, X1 and X2, Spider-Man 1 and 2, The Incredible Hulk, I'd say Daredevil Directors Cut is decent too. Thor is going to be immense, guaranteed.

I was't counting the OLDER films.

DC FILMS:

Constantine
Batman Begins
V For Vendetta
Superman Returns
The Dark Knight
Watchmen

MARVEL FILMS:

Spiderman 1 & 2
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I was't counting the OLDER films.

DC FILMS:

Constantine
Batman Begins
V For Vendetta
Superman Returns
The Dark Knight
Watchmen

MARVEL FILMS:

Spiderman 1 & 2
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk

Superman Returns and Constantine were crap. And I was talking main universes anyway. V, Constantine and Watchmen wouldn't count in that. Neither would Hex, which I'm actually looking forward to.

I can't believe someone would count Constantine and Superman Returns as good, but dismiss X2. Your opinion man, but it truly baffles the mind.

 

[The Batman]

if you list "V for Vendetta" and "Constantine" as examples for good DC movies, and the person you're talking with pulls out the "They dont count" card, its best to stop talking to them and walk away.

seriously, that is one of the dumbest sentiments ive heard on these boards, and ive heard them often.

 

[The Batman]

ESPECIALLY not counting Hex, a character who exists in DCU continuity.

 

[Alex Logan]

Superman Returns and Constantine were crap. And I was talking main universes anyway. V, Constantine and Watchmen wouldn't count in that. Neither would Hex, which I'm actually looking forward to.

I can't believe someone would count Constantine and Superman Returns as good, but dismiss X2. Your opinion man, but it truly baffles the mind.

No, they were not crap. In fact they were two very well made films. Well, I guess you could say that we have very different tastes in film.

if you list "V for Vendetta" and "Constantine" as examples for good DC movies, and the person you're talking with pulls out the "They dont count" card, its best to stop talking to them and walk away.

seriously, that is one of the dumbest sentiments ive heard on these boards, and ive heard them often.

Yep.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Exactly, and I NEED quality over quantity. If I get a "HULK" from DC I'm might just turn into the





It's not ******** and it has nothing to do with TDK. Iron Man was a good film, BUT he's right without Robert what whould it have been? What would TDK have been without Bale and Ledger?



Look at them?

Constantine
Batman Begins
V For Vendetta
Superman Returns
The Dark Knight
Watchmen

That's six in five years and they all ranged from good to exceptional. DC hasn't made a bad film since 2005, Marvel on the other hand has made many a bad film.

How is Marvel doing? They just got bought by Disney and the only really successful films they have are Spiderrman and Ironman.

and X-Men t:

 

[Webhead2006]

nice quotes from ryan. As for marvel vs dc films. Personally i have hated they havent been able to crack any main character really besides batman this past decade. Sure a few of those films like watchmen/v were done very well and did decent in BO and all that. As for marvel sure a good buch of their films have been crap along with their very good films. But the difference with marvel vs dc for me is this. Marvel is willing to give a character a fair shot on the big screen. Some times they get a hit like x1/x2/sm1/sm2 for example. But some times they also get a dud like the hulk(2003), x3, etc.... But at least the character had a chance. Were as DC main guys like flash/ww/aquaman/etc... are stuck in development hell and go no where at all.

 

[dnno1]

I was't counting the OLDER films.

DC FILMS:

Constantine
Batman Begins
V For Vendetta
Superman Returns
The Dark Knight
Watchmen

MARVEL FILMS:

Spiderman 1 & 2
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk

Don't forget "Road to Perdition".

 

[jmc]

Marvel has put out more good films than DC I think.

DC has Batman 89, Returns, Begins, TDK.

And the first Superman...what else? I'm confident Green Lantern will be great too.

Marvel has Iron Man, X1 and X2, Spider-Man 1 and 2, The Incredible Hulk, I'd say Daredevil Directors Cut is decent too. Thor is going to be immense, guaranteed.

Marvel Studios has made 2 films, the others are not Marvel made.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

if you list "V for Vendetta" and "Constantine" as examples for good DC movies, and the person you're talking with pulls out the "They dont count" card, its best to stop talking to them and walk away.

seriously, that is one of the dumbest sentiments ive heard on these boards, and ive heard them often.

I didn't mean they don't count as DC films. But I was talking about main continuity, the main stable of characters.

When it comes to that, Marvel is far, far ahead. DC doesn't seem to give a toss about anyone but Batman and Superman. And now Green Lantern.

Whereas Marvel has given the spot light to much more characters.

And Constantine is not a good DC movie. ****, it's not a good movie full stop. To say that is a good movie and in the same breath not include X2 as a good movie really does baffle the mind.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Marvel Studios has made 2 films, the others are not Marvel made.

They're still Marvel properties. They are still Marvel characters.

 

[jmc]

They're still Marvel properties. They are still Marvel characters.

They are not Marvel films though, Marvel can't take credit for films they didn't produce, it would be like the Tolkien estate taking credit for making Lord of the Rings on film. The equation is simple, WB: many superhero films, Marvel: 2.

 

[Alex Logan]

Don't forget "Road to Perdition".

Huh?

I didn't mean they don't count as DC films. But I was talking about main continuity, the main stable of characters.

When it comes to that, Marvel is far, far ahead. DC doesn't seem to give a toss about anyone but Batman and Superman. And now Green Lantern.

Whereas Marvel has given the spot light to much more characters.

And Constantine is not a good DC movie. ****, it's not a good movie full stop. To say that is a good movie and in the same breath not include X2 as a good movie really does baffle the mind.

Maybe DC cares more about putting out a good product, rather then just handing over their properties like Marvel has done in the past.

Why is Constantine such a "bad" movie? If YOU don't like it that's fine, but it's not a bad film, in fact it was very well done.

I'm also wondering why you love X2 so much, but you think of Superman Returns as "crap". They were made by the same director.

 

[thebatman226]

I'm also wondering why you love X2 so much, but you think of Superman Returns as "crap". They were made by the same director.

Thats a pretty broad statement.
Just because he enjoys one movie made by Singer doesn't mean he has to enjoy the rest he's made?

It'd be like me telling you because you like one comic book by a certain creator you have to enjoy all his other books, doesn't work like that.

 

[Doctor Jones]

What my list meant in the DC was DC's stable characters like Ace said. Ones that everyone knows. V, Constantine, and Watchmen don't really count. At Marvel, Spider-Man, X-Men, Hulk, Iron Man, Fantatic Four (it was successful hence the sequel but the quality bahh) all are well known and did well. They've been more open in the past ten years than DC. Batman and Superman are the only ones that have been done, the latter mediocre. Right now they're still trying to sort it out with legal troubles and such and the fact they coulnd't get a damn clue on one of the most well known superheroes of all time. Batman is their poster boy at DC and WB's superheroes.

 

[craigdbfan]

Marvel has a slight advantage in throwing more movies out there due to a bunch of their franchises belonging to different studios though (20th Century Fox, Universal, Sony, Paramount).

While DC is paired up only with WB. So there is only so much one studio can do.

 

[Alex Logan]

Thats a pretty broad statement.
Just because he enjoys one movie made by Singer doesn't mean he has to enjoy the rest he's made?

It'd be like me telling you because you like one comic book by a certain creator you have to enjoy all his other books, doesn't work like that.

Not really and it sure can work like that. I've liked every film directed by Chris Nolan and I've loved every Geoff John story I've read.

 

[Alex Logan]

What my list meant in the DC was DC's stable characters like Ace said. Ones that everyone knows. V, Constantine, and Watchmen don't really count. At Marvel, Spider-Man, X-Men, Hulk, Iron Man, Fantatic Four (it was successful hence the sequel but the quality bahh) all are well known and did well. They've been more open in the past ten years than DC. Batman and Superman are the only ones that have been done, the latter mediocre. Right now they're still trying to sort it out with legal troubles and such and the fact they coulnd't get a damn clue on one of the most well known superheroes of all time. Batman is their poster boy at DC and WB's superheroes.

To say that they don't really count is just a cop out. They are properties owned by the WB that feature characters who have been published by DC comics. "Eveyone" doesn't have to KNOW them.

The first Hulk film was not successful and all those films where not "done well".

So you're saying the only films done by DC that are not mediocre are the Superman and Batman ones?

Ummmmm, what are you saying here? They couldn't get a clue about Superman?

 

[MagicPrime]

You can't start throwing more conditions on an argument when the results aren't what you want.

 

[Alex Logan]

You can't start throwing more conditions on an argument when the results aren't what you want.

Add conditions? LOL!

What are you talking about?

There were never any conditions on this "argument", if you can even call it that. When did anyone say that the characters in the film had to be well known or in continuity?

You can't discount a film made by Warner Bros. that's about DC characters just because YOU don't think it counts. That's one the of dumbest things I've even heard.

 

[MagicPrime]

Add conditions? LOL!

What are you talking about?

There were never any conditions on this "argument", if you can even call it that. When did anyone say that the characters in the film had to be well known or in continuity?

You can't discount a film made by Warner Bros. that's about DC characters just because YOU don't think it counts. That's one the of dumbest things I've even heard.

Um... I'm on your side. "Good" DC movies were thrown on the table then he was like, "Oh... well those don't count!" He was adding conditions to the argument.

Saying they had to be "Well Known" or "Main Continuity" these things were not initially stated in his argument and he only added them after the fact when he was being proven wrong.

 

[Octoberist]

fight fight fight fight

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I wasn't proven wrong. Again the only decent DC movies are Batman 89, Returns, maybe Forever, Begins, TDK and Superman 1.

You know who is wrong? Someone who says Superman Returns is good and X2 isn't. That's like saying Steven Speilberg is a hack. That's how utterly wrong it is.

But that's cool it's opinion. But the point of this debate was this. DC obviously don't have confidence in their main stream characters apart from Batman and now Green Lantern. With what happened to Superman Returns ie it sucking they are gonna be even more apprehensive now.

 

[Octoberist]

well, you got the general consensus that gives you an idea what movies are well received and what are not. I don't think it's just about the reviews, it's about the longevity of the movie.

I think Dark Knight is one of those movies that people will still talk about, along with Superman 1 and 2, and maybe poor poor Batman Begins. I swear, Batman Begins is like Mad Max to Dark Knight's Road Warrior when it comes to legacy.