Saw VI discussion thread

[nocomics]

that's like saying that if you put a dress on a pig, it makes a lady...

 

[JackBauer]

Touché

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17708

Behind the scenes footage.

 

[The Chris]

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17708

Behind the scenes footage.

That makes me more excited actually. This one looks to have some good stuff in it dialogue scene wise, and I'm always a sucker for these type of b-roll behind the scenes footage. Seeing some of the work that went into it Always pleases me.

 

[Sparky9292]

What if they was too scared to pee.

Granted, I can't pee if someone is staring at me; so yeah, you have to be "relaxed" to do that.

Still, the idiot that pushed his whole arm through the blade was really stupid. Still could have filled the blood just fine once he got to the veins in his wrist.

 

[Sparky9292]

Which DVD extras are you talking about? I have the Saw 5 DVD and mine didn't come with any specific extras.

Ah, here's the interview. He says that this is the first time anyone has been killed on screen with a crushing room.

A little context, this interview debunks the theory that the guy somehow survived the last trap in Saw V.


If he stuck his gun in the two now-open holes at the top the of box, he could have shot the guy inside..

 

[CelticPredator]

I will say ONE good thing about the music...Charlie Closer's score. I love that Saw theme.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

New Interview with Costas Mandylor about Saw 6.

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[Fresh Prince]

Granted, I can't pee if someone is staring at me; so yeah, you have to be "relaxed" to do that.

Still, the idiot that pushed his whole arm through the blade was really stupid. Still could have filled the blood just fine once he got to the veins in his wrist.

Most of the people in Jigsaw's traps are not intelligent.

 

[The Dark Defender]

you do realize you just created the biggest, more impressive, Oxymoronic statement in the history of the planet

Intelligent discussion about the film franchise, Saw...........

wow...

Yes, and how could one possibly engage in intelligent discussion about a series that's full of character arcs that develop over the course of several films, themes ranging from the fragility of life and appreciating how good you have it whether you realize it at the moment or not, to not making a living out of ruining others lives in order to improve your own, to the importance of self control since lacking it can destroy not only yourself but those closest to you, to how much obsession can work against you, to how much we rely upon one another to survive...no, no intelligent material there...certainly nothing that warrents anything more than a vapid, mindless "this **** sucks!" comment now and then.

 

[CelticPredator]

If someone was killing my friends, no **** would I be obessed with finding them, and no **** i'd do whatever I could to help them.

Jigsaw's an *******. You are led to believe he wants to do good, but really...he can pick WAY more deserving people then someone like Jeff or Rigg.

Pick a Child molester, pick a murderer, pick someone who HAS ACTUALLY RUINED THEIR LIFE. Make them redeem themselves. But nooo...lets get some cop who is going crazy over his FRIENDS dying. Yeah...thats unheard of....

 

[The Chris]

If someone was killing my friends, no **** would I be obessed with finding them, and no **** i'd do whatever I could to help them.

Jigsaw's an *******. You are led to believe he wants to do good, but really...he can pick WAY more deserving people then someone like Jeff or Rigg.

Pick a Child molester, pick a murderer, pick someone who HAS ACTUALLY RUINED THEIR LIFE. Make them redeem themselves. But nooo...lets get some cop who is going crazy over his FRIENDS dying. Yeah...thats unheard of....

I have to agree with this and I really had a problem with the main game being played in Saw IV, which is why it's my least favorite of the series. In the other ones I can understand and buy why all those people were where they were at, but In Saw IV it felt like they were grasping at straws. Rigg's deal wasn't that bad, and not nearly bad enough to be apart of Jigsaw's game. Hey jerk, you're killing this guys friends, and having death around you affects you, so cut the guy a break. The guys reaction and feeling are very understandable and with this one Jigsaw really forgot how human people can be. With the others they were their because of the bad they had done, while with Rigg it was like he was there because he was Too Good.

 

[CelticPredator]

Saw 4 was the only one to have someone who actually deserves the trap, the fat rapist. Jeff did not deserve any of that. None of those people did.

 

[Legion]

Jigsaw isn't a vigilante! He isn't killing people that "deserve it" because he is the villain of the series. He has a warped sense of morality and is filled with disgust by the people around him.

He is an extremist and his targets are ordinary people with flaws. They could be you or me. It seems alot people that bash these films don't understand them at all...

 

[bullets]

Saw 4 was the only one to have someone who actually deserves the trap, the fat rapist. Jeff did not deserve any of that. None of those people did.

This is a horror movie and jigsaw is a maniac. The film tries to show his point of view but the audience isn't supposed to agree.

 

[nocomics]

I have to agree with this and I really had a problem with the main game being played in Saw IV, which is why it's my least favorite of the series. In the other ones I can understand and buy why all those people were where they were at, but In Saw IV it felt like they were grasping at straws. Rigg's deal wasn't that bad, and not nearly bad enough to be apart of Jigsaw's game. Hey jerk, you're killing this guys friends, and having death around you affects you, so cut the guy a break. The guys reaction and feeling are very understandable and with this one Jigsaw really forgot how human people can be. With the others they were their because of the bad they had done, while with Rigg it was like he was there because he was Too Good.

Ya, I kindof agree with this for the fact I didn't see a reason why Riggs was used as a test subject. Ya,he was obsessed with doing justice and I guess that was his downfall,plus I guess he was neglecting his wife etc...
I also agree the rapist really deserved it for raping but I also think the teacher/principal also deserved it for abusing that child. Now the Lawyer I have issues with as they really didn't show him doing anything wrong,but I guess u have to assume him defending unjust people???

* I kindof was hoping the trap for that fat rapist was something to do with cutting off his 'tool' instead of him having to gouge his eyes out.

 

[CelticPredator]

Jigsaw isn't a vigilante! He isn't killing people that "deserve it" because he is the villain of the series. He has a warped sense of morality and is filled with disgust by the people around him.

He is an extremist and his targets are ordinary people with flaws. They could be you or me. It seems alot people that bash these films don't understand them at all...

Well they sure make it like he's the hero. They never show a point of view that says...hey....dude, you're crazy.

The cops point of view is moot, they dont like any death so....

And no one understands them, because they're so incredibly silly, and convolted. The fact that they made 5 more is a mystery.

 

[Drizzle]

I don't know about you guys, but watching a new "Saw" movie has turned into a huge chore for me. It's like, yeah, I'm sick of them, but I still want to see it to find out how it's going to end. I'm going to see "Saw VI" regardless so I might as well get it overwith sooner.

 

[Fresh Prince]

This is a horror movie and jigsaw is a maniac. The film tries to show his point of view but the audience isn't supposed to agree.

Agreed....And who is that in your avatar?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Why is it people feel the need to bash the concept of Riggs game? It makes perfect sense. Just because this person is your friend doesn't mean you forget about your own needs and help them.

This is just from my personal experience. A long time ago I used to try and help everyone, so much so that I would forget MY needs and put their problems first before thinking about myself. There comes a time when you do that so much that you lose sight of you who are and you find yourself getting used.

Rigg was so obsessed with his work and rightfully so, his friends were dying around him and he wanted to save them. But in the process he neglected his wife, he neglected his life, and eventually it cost him in the end. The phrase "What you can't do is save everyone" is very true. He wanted to save everyone and it just couldn't be done.

Sometimes that person needs to help themselves and that was a lesson that he didn't learn. So it actually makes sense for a Jigsaw game and theme.

 

[bullets]

I don't know about you guys, but watching a new "Saw" movie has turned into a huge chore for me. It's like, yeah, I'm sick of them, but I still want to see it to find out how it's going to end. I'm going to see "Saw VI" regardless so I might as well get it overwith sooner.

Well they have a connecting storyline that runs part 6-8 and then they haven't come up with anything for 9 if that happens.

 

[bullets]

Agreed....And who is that in your avatar?

Zachary Quinto

 

[The Dark Defender]

If someone was killing my friends, no **** would I be obessed with finding them, and no **** i'd do whatever I could to help them.

Jigsaw's an *******. You are led to believe he wants to do good, but really...he can pick WAY more deserving people then someone like Jeff or Rigg.

Pick a Child molester, pick a murderer, pick someone who HAS ACTUALLY RUINED THEIR LIFE. Make them redeem themselves. But nooo...lets get some cop who is going crazy over his FRIENDS dying. Yeah...thats unheard of....

As I've pointed out numerous times, the films aren't about people "deserving" what happens to them, they're about Jigsaws message, not his methods. They're about seeing how much people are willing to go through to get back something that they've been discarding or mistreating once they're put in a situation where it's in jeopardy and they have to struggle for it or lose it for good. Of course Jeff didn't DESERVE to die, but Jigsaw is a serial killer (whether he wants to admitt it, or realizes it or not), of course his actions aren't going to always be deserved.

and I'd say Xavior was as bad or atleast pretty damn close to Ivan, maybe even worse since he felt virtually no remorse for what he was doing, Cecil and Rex (the ******* that was beating his wife and daughter) weren't exactly good samaritans either. A woman that's allowing her husband to physically and psychologically bruise her and her child over and over being put in a situation where she has to let go of what's ruining their lives or lose hers has far more substance than anything in most horror films, or films in general; just to name a single example.

As for the cops, they're trying to stop Jigsaw, which of course is their job...and of course, he doesn't feel his work should be stopped, naturally they were going to butt-heads. Jigsaw really has no choice but to test them if they're going to keep pursuing him, hence why the last two sequels were about him trying to help the police understand his way of "saving," people, and both of them ended with cops dying because they never got it.

Joh/Jigsaw is the centerpiece of the series, so naturally the stories will be told from his perspective, that doesn't mean that films are saying that everything that he thinks is right.

 

[nocomics]

I don't know about you guys, but watching a new "Saw" movie has turned into a huge chore for me. It's like, yeah, I'm sick of them, but I still want to see it to find out how it's going to end. I'm going to see "Saw VI" regardless so I might as well get it overwith sooner.

Kindof agree I'm kindof tired of the movies,but yet I find myself very entertained by them and always looking forward to the next...Then I find myself saying "come'on guys stop already don't ruin what u got going" or "Bring Dr.Gordon back already will ya so ppl quit debating on it."

Now I want to make sure I don't sign up for any Overtime at work for its release

 

[san15]

Saw 4 was the only one to have someone who actually deserves the trap, the fat rapist. Jeff did not deserve any of that. None of those people did.

Didn't you say Saw was the worst series of all time.

If so why do you continue to watch it.