Scarface

Brian De Palma's Scarface is such a guilty pleasure

Over the top. Over indulgent. The lifestyle, the cocaine, the swearing, the sex, the power. Everything is done to the max, and it eventually leads to everyone's downfall. Pacino is way over the top in this film. Classic film with classic dialogue

Too bad De Palma and Pacino couldn't recapture their glory in Carlito's Way.
 
Movies205 said:
I love how many people love me for being an elitist film-jack ass :D It pisses me off since I really have been yearning for a DVD copy of Scarface (1933) since "I am a fugitive from a chain gang" (1933) relit my love for Muni, I saw it once a while ago, but I'd need to buy the ****in deluxe edition of Scarface (1983) errr!!! I'm just going to succumb and buy a frickin bootleg off ebay. But the 1983 version is simply this... Take the original movie, insert cubans and drugs, take whole scenes and shots, and just STRETCH IT OUT TO 3 HOURS and include Pacino hammy yet entertaining acting. That's really it, the movie is damn entertaining, but too long, because of Pacino and the ridiculousness of the 80s.

A friend of mine bought the big special whatever the hell it was edtion that came with both versions. He just gave me the orginal. His loss. Pacino was hammy but that was his character. I have no problem with what Pacino did with his character, I didn't like what De Palma did with the film.
 
Al Pacino is a bit overratted, He does do a good job but he's over the top..that OY! OY! kinda acting and he's made alot of crap since Scarface,He was perfect for tony montoya but after that,what has he been in that was great since Heat?
 
Mr. Walters said:
A friend of mine bought the big special whatever the hell it was edtion that came with both versions. He just gave me the orginal. His loss. Pacino was hammy but that was his character. I have no problem with what Pacino did with his character, I didn't like what De Palma did with the film.

I just re-read my post, I meant to say that it's entertaining cuz of Pacino. The Merchant of Venice was good and I hear good things about that movie he did about AIDs or something for HBO.
 
I dunno, Carlito's Way was a very very different story.

Really, Carlito's Way can bee seen as a matured, tired veteran version of Tony. As if, "what if he did get his act together, and did want out of the game?" almost.

I loved Carlito's Way too. I think I might actually like it better than Scarface...and I reallllllly love Scarface.

Btw, I've heard INSOMNIA he was great in. And, he was pretty good in TWO FOR THE MONEY.

Pacino is kinda like Christian Bale or Sam Jackson for me. The movie can be crap, but they can still make the movie better than it is simply by they're performances.
 
Shuley said:
Al Pacino is a bit overratted, He does do a good job but he's over the top..that OY! OY! kinda acting and he's made alot of crap since Scarface,He was perfect for tony montoya but after that,what has he been in that was great since Heat?
I thought he was great in Donnie Brasco, Devil's Advocate, Insomnia, Angels in America, The Insider and The Merchant of Venice.

Vincent Hanna in Heat is still my favorite performance of his though.
 
Scarface '83 is a terrific film, I cannot comment on the 1932 version because I haven't seen it, the only B&W films I've seen are Psycho and Three Stooges shorts. :)

Lord Blackbolt said:
Believe it or not...IDW is now making a SEQUEL comic series. Where...appearantly Scareface didn't die at the end of the movie. No lie.
How the hell does he survive a barrage of bullets?
 
^^

The 1932 Scarface had two different endings. In the original ending the gangster died in a barrage of bullets (usually shown today), in the modified ending (to get the film past the censors) the gangster was arrested, tried and then hanged.
 
Scarface PWNS!

My fave movie.
 
You're awesome. The 1932 movie is far superior to that pointless crap De Palma did. I didn't think anyone alive cared for the real Scarface. You beat me to it. Not only do you recognize that the original is a great film, but you also rcognize that the remake was stupid. You rule! Let's be friends.

I always bump into people like this and then they disappear :( The 1930s version is still better, I recently bought it a month ago... Still classic however I prefer Little Ceasar (1931) over Scarface (1932), I love Paul Muni but Edward G. Robinson is awesome... Very Similar stories I suggest everyoen check them out.
 
Actually both Scarfaces are very good. The remake is basically just a glorified version of the original.
 
Anyone hear about the supposed sequel they wan´t to make Son of Tony

Directed by
Brian de Palma

Produced by
Unknown

Written by
Oliver Stone
Pauly Shore WTF!?!?

Starring
Enrique Iglesias
Noémie Lenoir
Roma Downey
Chazz Palminteri
 
I would pay cash money if it was Pauly Shore in the role as Tony's son.
 
Wtf? Personally I think the Scarface story should be told again, however minus the scarface name. I mean the idea of a poor nobody making a name for himself as a gangster but in the end losing it all, it's been a while since we've had one of those stories...
 
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Well, I re-bought the movie in its newest format as the picture quality is gloriuous in 1080p. Included with this sweet steelbook ($22 at Best Buy) are:

10 collectible art cards
Bonus disc of the original 1932 Scarface
Digital Copy of Scarface (1983) (expires 9/30/2012)
U-Control: Scarface Scoreboard
U-Control: Picture in Picture
The Scarface Phenomenon (in HD)
BD-Live
My Scene
Pocket BLU
U-Hear
D-BOX

DTS-HD Master Audio English 7.1 / 48 kHz / 5682 kbps / 24-bit (Platinum Edition Audio: remixed score cues, all of the film's gunshot sounds replaced with newly created SFX, etc.)

DTS Audio English 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit (The Film's Original Audio)

All the extras (but one) ported over from the 20th Anniversary and Platinum Edition DVDs:

The World of Tony Montana (in HD)
Deleted Scenes
The Rebirth
The Acting
The Creating
Scarface: The TV Version
The Making of Scarface: The Video Game (awesome game even if its just Grand Theft Auto starring Tony Montana)

Here we are, 29 years later and the film still holds up as a legit masterpiece. I think its great because of its influence on pop culture, the tension, too many classic one liners, how much of a badass Tony Montana (played brilliantly by Al Pacino) is even with his twisted beliefs, and you don't have to sit in complete silence and take it seriously.

The chainsaw scene had you on the edge of your seat as we were seeing the major contrast where inside two men are going to get killed with a noisy tool and nobody outside has an idea about the horror that's taking place. It manages to be really disturbing even though we barely see anything happen. That's the power of unseen violence like in the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. As for the music, it isn't cool rock and roll music playing, its an intense score which clearly gives us the effect of the criminal underworld.

Its hard to believe that we were watching the same movie where it begins with the destruction of Freedomtown and ends with the luxurious cinematography of Tony's new life featuring the kickass song "Push It To The Limit". And what better way to end such a film than with a fight to the finish?

Scarface was made purely for entertainment. If it had more depth, it wouldn't be the timeless classic it is today. Its a well paced thriller. We aren't suppose to be inspired or learn something from it though most people do anyway with its morality message.

The reason why people don't like it is because they are always comparing it to other gangster films or that Scarface became a stereotypical movie for minorities. It's fine by itself, its not suppose to be The Godfather again.

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The only extra missing from the Blu-Ray.
 
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"You know what a hassa is, Frank? That's a pig, who don't fly straight."
 
I thinks its a very entertaining movie but by no means a classic. I feel some people take the whole tony Montana fascination to a weird fetishistic level as well.
 
^Especially those who can't seem to realize that he's not a real person.
 
It's by no means a classic but if you take it for what it is-over the top, silly trash-then it's good for what it is. It's funny as hell and is best watched as a camp comedy.
 
It's a classic in the sense that is very iconic, memorable and has left a tangible legacy whose influence can still be felt.

However, it is by no means a masterpiece. I agree that it is best viewed as a satire or straight up comedy because Pacino's campy performance only works if you don't take it seriously. And if you don't it is bloody brilliant and hilarious. The only downside is that sometimes DePalma doesn't know when enough is enough (or perhaps it was Stone's screenplay?).

Still a very fun movie, but one where I don't need the newest most ultimate edition thingy every few years.
 
It's by no means a classic but if you take it for what it is-over the top, silly trash-then it's good for what it is. It's funny as hell and is best watched as a camp comedy.
That's the thing. I don't think the movie was ever suppose to be taken too seriously. But most people can't seem to get that and think that it's some sort of blueprint.
 
It's a classic. The movie is about the nature of capitalism and the American dream.

The dialogue is inspired and honest. The themes even though encased in a brief time period are timeless. It perfectly showcases Miami cocaine wars of the 80's yet it tells an almost shakespearian tale of ambition and power.

The movie tells the truth. Even when it lies, it tells the truth.
 
I think it is overrated and held too high, but, it is still a great film. Not up there with your Godfathers and your Goodfellas, but it doesn't attempt to be or want to be.

You ****in cockaroach!
 

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