Iron Man 2 Scarlett Johansson is the Black Widow

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  1. Balthus Dire Punishment Continues

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    No, they cast a blonde, white, American girl to play a red haired Russian. :oldrazz:


    But that's not even why I think she's miscast. Any good actor can put on an accent, and appearances rarely matter in film because they can always change. However, in this case, Scarlett simply doesn't have the rawness that Black Widow should have. She's hot, yeah...but not the kind of hot Black Widow should be. I would believe someone like Olga whats-her-face being a hard as nails sexy Russian spy, and not just because she's Russian. She has the look and attitude of a bad ass chick.

    Scarlett Johanson, I'm afraid, does not.

    Plus her line reads are flat as all hell. :o
     
  2. kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    One thing I must say is that BW should exude competence. Like Wolverine, she's the best(in Russia) there is at what she does. Only difference is that sometimes what she does is very nice.:cwink::grin:

    BW cannot come across as a novice with just some acrobatic skill. She's a pro.
     
  3. Laderlappen Fat, drunk, and stupid

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    Can we please stop talking about Bondgirl-Olga here, and lets be a little serious.
     
  4. tamron Registered

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    IMHO, Scarlett's role in The Prestige was thankless. She was just eye candy, of minimal bearing to the plot. Not her fault, the script gave her nothing to do.
     
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  5. PyroChamber Not lactose, it's milk!

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    But at the same time, how did Johansson become his second choice? I'm not sure but I doubt she was one of the names anyone had in mind when it came to casting the character at first.
     
  6. Ace of Knaves Registered

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    I'm still waiting for someone to come up with 5 actresses that are so much better acting wise that it makes a noticeable difference. Who are also hotter than Scarlett.
     
  7. Majik1387 Registered

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    Doesn't really matter if someone does come up with a list, someone will eventually break it down by trying to give reasons why they're not better than Scarlett.
     
  8. Ace of Knaves Registered

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    Yea that's fair point.

    But with all this *****ing about her, and there being many others out there who would be better. I would like to see some one put their money where their mouth is.
     
  9. Majik1387 Registered

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    I was still partial to the Hilary Swank rumor, and I would have preferred Emily Blunt. I agree about Milla Jovovich being a good choice. Uma Thurman would have been good in the role as well. Hell even though she played Elektra, Jennifer Garner would have been a better choice, she even has the background as a dancer like BW. And while I wouldn't have liked her for BW, I think Eliza Dushku would have been better than Scarlett, regarding appearance and acting.

    Granted, almost all of them are common in the fanboy castings, but that's probably because they're in projects that we all enjoy, and we'd like to see them in more.
     
  10. Ace of Knaves Registered

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    Yea good points.

    But I do think Scarlett is a better actress than both Milla and Eliza. But yea it could be said that Milla is more "suited" to the role though.

    But the fact is the casting is done, let's give her a chance right? Maybe she will blow us all away with her performance? Maybe she will suck terribly. There is only one way to find out for sure.
     
  11. Sub-Zero Ice Cold

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    i think the latter is the most likely. she's one of the most overrated people in hollywood. hillary swank was rumored for the role back when im 1 was filming. why couldn't they get her? i'd buy her as the character more than scarlett. scarlett has no range. i can't really see scarlett doing a russian accent. i'm betting that they're going to tweek the character and make her american so scarlett will have an easier time saying her lines. i guess the next question is who's playing hawkeye, or more to the point what actor will be misscast as hawkeye? trust in favreau...hopefullly
     
  12. Ace of Knaves Registered

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    Because Hilary Swank looks like a bloke? Her jaw line alone could give Aaron Eckhart, Jimmy Hill and Bruce Forsythe a run for their money.

    And I'll say it again. A Russian accent is PISS easy to pull off.
     
  13. Majik1387 Registered

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    This does not look like a bloke
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  14. Ace of Knaves Registered

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    :D Well I'll admit she does look stunning there, and she is a great actress.

    So maybe yea, she is a better choice for the role. But alas. it's too late now anyway. As I said, let's give Scarlett a chance, we never know what can happen.

    She was great in Lost in Translation and Pearl Earring at least. Obviously those roles don't indicate if she could pull off this role. But do actresses really need experience in a similar role? I don't think that makes sense really. How does a actress get experience in similar roles? She has to do them first.

    Look at Michelle Phfiffer. She didn't do a role anything like Catwoman and IMO she nailed that particular take on the character.
     
  15. Majik1387 Registered

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    An actress doesn't need experience in a similar role, but it helps give an idea of what she can bring(or not bring) to the role.
     
  16. Ace of Knaves Registered

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    Yea i understand that. But what i mean is how does a actress get experience in the role? You can only get experience by playing those sorta roles.

    It's like with a job. You go looking for a job and the employer says you have to have experience in a similar role. But if all employers said that, then how is anyone going to get experience in that role?
     
  17. PyroChamber Not lactose, it's milk!

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    Me personally I'm neither here nor there about Scarlett being Black Widow, it's just that her being casted seemed kind of random to me.
     
  18. 3dman27 super-hero wannabe

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    no most definately not
     
  19. Negrotigre Registered

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    Kardashian in skin tight leather?! I'd pay to see that!
     
  20. Immortalfire In the pale moonlight

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    I'm 'fire, and I approve of this casting :up:

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  21. Matt.S99 Formally batboy99

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    Black Widow is white and hair colour doesnt matter. Thats why they use something called wigs and hair dye. And it doesnt matter if shes American or Canadian or whatever. Look at Bale. His from Wales and he is playing an American. That really doesnt matter.

    And shes never played a role like Black Widow, so we dont know if she has the ''rawness'' for the role, but again, that doesnt matter. She is a more than capable actress and Im sure she can pull it off.

    And I like Olga, but Scarlett is a MUCH better actress than her.
     
  22. Matt.S99 Formally batboy99

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    I think shes a better actress than the two as well. At least when she wantes to be. But Eliza is starting to prove herself more as an actress.

    And Scarlett is a much better choice than Swank,Thurman, and Garner.

    I would be open to Swank, but really, Scarlett is much better looking and fits the role better. Swank of course is the better actress, but Scarlett fits the bill more.
     
  23. [A] Registered

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    hmm casting choices based on looks.. I believe we're invaded by teenagers who lied about their age :hehe:
     
  24. Ace of Knaves Registered

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    It's not just to do with looks. She is a good actress AND is gorgeous.

    And I agree that I just couldn't picture Swank as the Black Widow. Being a great actress doesn't automatically make you suited to any role. If that was the case just get Helen Mirren or Dame Judi Dench in there! :hehe:
     
  25. Matt.S99 Formally batboy99

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    Seriously.


    And just because she happens to be super hot does ont mean this choice is based on looks. Watch some of Scarlett's lesser known/less popular movies. Shes good. Shes one of those actresses than does better depending on who is directing her.

    And yes, those pictures were nice of Swank, but most of them are either of her mouth closed/semi closed or her arm knid of covering her mouth. Snd this is a movie, not a still picture. Her horse teeth will show through. Again, she is the better actress, but Natasha is supposed to be a super sexy character. Swank just isnt. Scarlett is.
     
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