Scream 5 in Development

[samsnee]

Matthew Lillard is an incredibly humble and appreciative actor. He really deserves more success.

 

[The Shape]

Matthew Lillard is an incredibly humble and appreciative actor. He really deserves more success.

Agreed.

As a side note, I love all of the small details in these films that most people wouldn't notice. When Sidney is being chased by Ghostface (Stu) up the stairs in her house, you can actually hear Lillard say "Easy! Easy!"

Same goes for Scream 2. There are several times you can hear Laurie Metcalf's screams and grunts when it's supposed to be her behind the mask.

 

[shauner111]

Lillard needs to be in a comic book movie.

 

[antsman41]

He’s always been secretly my dream Scarecrow.

 

[TheVileOne]

FYI, Matthew Lillard started a D&D company Beadle & Grimm's.

About Us — Beadle & Grimm’s

 

[Closerframe]

Well, there goes most of my excitement.

Scream 5 Won’t Be A Meta Horror Movie

 

[The Shape]

Well, there goes most of my excitement.

Scream 5 Won’t Be A Meta Horror Movie

Fake news. I watched the reunion event and this was not what was said about Scream 5. He did not say there were be no meta aspects to Scream 5 and praised the new filmmakers.

""What I love about the new Scream is that it does take a fresh approach. It’s this beautiful sort of fresh new movie, but it also has this nostalgic factor that runs through it. That to me was a perfect blend of how to do the next Scream. So that was what I was most excited about. I’m blown away by the directors, and I was really nervous because nobody is Wes Craven. I was really hesitant to even jump on board and be a part of it, and boy am I glad I did because I think it’s going to make Wes proud."

However, when someone asked Williamson how he would advise other filmmakers on making a new Scream movie, he did say something interesting:

Spoiler

I get what we means and I do agree that the new film should be less reliant on the "meta", self-aware aspects. Both Scream 3 and especially Scream 4 were too over the top in that regard. The new film needs to be scarier. Think about how terrifying the opening scene of the original Scream is compared to the meta-focused opening of Scream 4. It's time to get back to that.

 

[antsman41]

We need to calm down in the meta... 3 was too meta, and 4’s intro was trash.

 

[Closerframe]

If Scream avoids the meta themes it was built on then what makes it any different from the dozens of other slashers?

 

[The Shape]

If Scream avoids the meta themes it was built on then what makes it any different from the dozens of other slashers?

Toning down does not mean completely avoiding them. Think back on Scream 1 - self aware to an extent, referential to other films and horror films, acknowledging horror tropes, etc. Now we have movies within movies, movies within movies within movies, constantly referencing movies (more than Scream 1), and Scream 4 even using the word "meta" on screen. Plus, all the sequels have followed the same exact formula as Scream 1.

There is a way to tone down the meta stuff and switch things up to feel fresh this time around, while still feeling like a Scream movie. I'm confident that's what we'll be getting in Scream 5.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I don't think the meta themes will be or should be entirely gone, but I agree that theres gotta be something new. As much as i enjoyed 4, I feel like what it did lack was "new".

 

[Marvolo]

Meta is the whole point of this franchise. The film should look at current popular horror trends and deconstruct and poke fun at those.

I would have this film somehow take a meta approach to the Conjuring universe since they are the major horror films of this era. Scream doesnt necessarily need to pigeon hole itself in the slaser genre and it would probably benefit creatively if they explored another subgenre. Make ghost face a literal ghost or go for a hard R rated Scooby-Doo type thing with somebody faking a demonic haunting to kill and torment people. Make one of the supporting characters a defrocked catholic exorcist.

 

[Closerframe]

Toning down does not mean completely avoiding them. Think back on Scream 1 - self aware to an extent, referential to other films and horror films, acknowledging horror tropes, etc. Now we have movies within movies, movies within movies within movies, constantly referencing movies (more than Scream 1), and Scream 4 even using the word "meta" on screen. Plus, all the sequels have followed the same exact formula as Scream 1.

There is a way to tone down the meta stuff and switch things up to feel fresh this time around, while still feeling like a Scream movie. I'm confident that's what we'll be getting in Scream 5.

The first Scream was very meta with it openly addressing the horror tropes that were prevalent in 80s slashers at the time. Scream 2 went even further into this with the first characters who get killed off being black and one of the killers being the mother of the original killer. Scream 3 went off the deep end and Scream 4 was too on the nose with many of its references. Like you mentioned, I hope it goes back to the first Scream format with elements of addressing current horror film themes but also breathing in new life kind of like what Halloween (2018) managed to accomplish.

 

[BatLobster]

Fake news. I watched the reunion event and this was not what was said about Scream 5. He did not say there were be no meta aspects to Scream 5 and praised the new filmmakers.

""What I love about the new Scream is that it does take a fresh approach. It’s this beautiful sort of fresh new movie, but it also has this nostalgic factor that runs through it. That to me was a perfect blend of how to do the next Scream. So that was what I was most excited about. I’m blown away by the directors, and I was really nervous because nobody is Wes Craven. I was really hesitant to even jump on board and be a part of it, and boy am I glad I did because I think it’s going to make Wes proud."

However, when someone asked Williamson how he would advise other filmmakers on making a new Scream movie, he did say something interesting:

Spoiler

I get what we means and I do agree that the new film should be less reliant on the "meta", self-aware aspects. Both Scream 3 and especially Scream 4 were too over the top in that regard. The new film needs to be scarier. Think about how terrifying the opening scene of the original Scream is compared to the meta-focused opening of Scream 4. It's time to get back to that.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Man do I hate movie news clickbait.

There is no way around the meta aspect of Scream. It's inherently there. The entire premise is based on a killer who is a horror movie lover. They will definitely be better served by focusing on how to make it scary rather than how to out-meta the previous entries. In the end, I'm confident it will be a Scream film. I could see them backing off a bit from the emphasis on the STAB films (I'd still like to see them referenced), but I think it's still a given that there will be references to other horror films.

Also, sounds like production wrapped!

 

[The Shape]

Meta is the whole point of this franchise. The film should look at current popular horror trends and deconstruct and poke fun at those.

I would have this film somehow take a meta approach to the Conjuring universe since they are the major horror films of this era. Scream doesnt necessarily need to pigeon hole itself in the slaser genre and it would probably benefit creatively if they explored another subgenre. Make ghost face a literal ghost or go for a hard R rated Scooby-Doo type thing with somebody faking a demonic haunting to kill and torment people. Make one of the supporting characters a defrocked catholic exorcist.

 

[samsnee]

They should be meta about how meta everything is. Full meta. Meta-inception. And then when you think they can’t even be more meta, Courtney looks at the camera and winks.

 

[The Shape]

They should be meta about how meta everything is. Full meta. Meta-inception. And then when you think they can’t even be more meta, Courtney looks at the camera and winks.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Meta is part of the DNA of Scream, it just comes down to execution.

 

[Gothamsknight]

 

[MadVillainy]

Damn I feel like they just started filming. But they've been at it since September

Don't like how they just went with SCREAM for the title. Probably could've gotten away with "Scream: _____" But it worked for Halloween so yeah

 

[The Shape]

I don't mind the new title being "Scream". Better and easier to market than "Scream 5".

 

[The Shape]

Also, looks like a small/short/potentially female person in that Ghostface costume...

And another definite spoiler Williamson inadvertently revealed:

Spoiler

That's Stu Macher's house from the original. Probably where the finale of this film will take place again...very intetresting.

Really wish he didn't show that.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Eh, the Halloween title worked because it ignored all the sequels and that's what the title was saying.

This makes it feel like they're doing the same. Not saying they are, but naming it just Scream kind of says ignore all the others. Which from the marketing standpoint might be what they want you to think. The TRUE Scream sequel.

 

[Closerframe]

If this completely ignores 2-4 or at least 3 and 4, I wouldn’t be too upset, but simply naming this Scream creates confusion because as others have said about Halloween, that was at least ignoring the sequels and the follow-ups at least don’t use a number (Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends).

 

[The Shape]

It doesn't ignore or retcon any of the sequels.

Seems like they went with Scream because 1) it's a legacy sequel and 25 years after the original, and 2) If this spawns more sequels, they won't have to name the sequels "Scream 6" or "Scream 7". They can do what Halloween is doing with different sequel titles that aren't numeric, and 3) It's just simpler and more iconic.